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Quoting: quasilyteGame developer here.

Quoting: Purple Library GuySounds kind of interesting. It says PvP . . . can you play solo at all?

It's a mostly single-player game. You can play through 100% of its content solo.

Well, hurrah! I'll give it a shot.

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This is how Nintendo writes a lot of their security update notes, too. Very informative.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuySo, I've never really used flatpaks, except maybe one or two that were actually in my distro's repository. So I'm wondering--If you install stuff from Flathub, how do you keep it up to date? Is there some mechanism or do you just have to sort of remember that you ought to, application by application? Do you update, or do you just reinstall a newer version?

I believe GNOME and KDE GUI software managers also manage Flatpaks so nothing specific there if you use those.

If you update from the terminal you can make a simple script to update Flatpaks along with the regular distro updates.

I have this in my ~/bin/pc-update.sh:
#!/usr/bin/env bash

# Colors
green="\e[;92m"
reset="\e[0m"


echo -e "\n${green}*** Firmware update ***${reset}\n"
sudo fwupdmgr refresh
sudo fwupdmgr update

echo -e "\n${green}*** Flatpak update (system)***${reset}\n"
sudo flatpak update -y

echo -e "\n${green}*** Flatpak remove unused (system)***${reset}\n"
sudo flatpak uninstall --unused

#echo -e "\n${green}*** Flatpak update (user)***${reset}\n"
#flatpak update -y
#
#echo -e "\n${green}*** Flatpak remove unused (user)***${reset}\n"
#flatpak uninstall --unused

echo -e "\n${green}*** System update ***${reset}\n"
sudo zypper dist-upgrade --auto-agree-with-licenses --no-recommends

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Quoting: LungDrago

Quoting: Phlebiac

Quoting: MasterSleortI say let free market forces dictate whether it is a feature that will stay or not. If people are getting burnt or don't feel the value is there, publishers will be hesitant to use the feature. After all it's also a way to get advanced negative reviews.

This is true - "advanced access" could result in negative reviews that destroy "release day" sales. Hopefully that's enough incentive for greedy publishers to be cautious about milking this too heavily.

It really depends on the number of people who get roped into this advanced access thing versus how many people wait patiently for the actual release day, and how many people in the advanced access actually refund their game. If you make most of your sales in AA and then people don't refund your mess, well, you're golden. :D

Aren't most release days sales preorders being fulfilled?

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It looks like they hired someone from ASUS to write their release notes 👍🤣

Hope this is not a sign of things to come, this is one thing I hated about ASUS.

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Quoting: Phlebiac

Quoting: MasterSleortI say let free market forces dictate whether it is a feature that will stay or not. If people are getting burnt or don't feel the value is there, publishers will be hesitant to use the feature. After all it's also a way to get advanced negative reviews.

This is true - "advanced access" could result in negative reviews that destroy "release day" sales. Hopefully that's enough incentive for greedy publishers to be cautious about milking this too heavily.

It really depends on the number of people who get roped into this advanced access thing versus how many people wait patiently for the actual release day, and how many people in the advanced access actually refund their game. If you make most of your sales in AA and then people don't refund your mess, well, you're golden. :D

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QuoteFlathub is my favourite place to grab various apps for Linux and Steam Deck

Same although it is a shame that so many of those apps are only available through third party (community?) packaging.

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Well, I think warmly about both brands, Atari and Infogrames. Naturally I will be watching closely what they are up to :)

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I'm aware the issues are going to be resolved very soon, but an NVIDIA card on a Fedora edition laptop, a distro that leaned hard into Wayland, is... questionable.

It'll cease to be an issue very soon, but still. Weird.

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I wonder if the game can run outside of steam, just from the game exe using a Lutris prefix..
I played Scars Above using that method.

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Quoting: MasterSleortI say let free market forces dictate whether it is a feature that will stay or not. If people are getting burnt or don't feel the value is there, publishers will be hesitant to use the feature. After all it's also a way to get advanced negative reviews.

This is true - "advanced access" could result in negative reviews that destroy "release day" sales. Hopefully that's enough incentive for greedy publishers to be cautious about milking this too heavily.

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I hope being part of Atari means that Night Dive will return to making native Linux builds; they used to do it regularly, but not so much on newer releases:
https://store.steampowered.com/developer/NightDiveStudios

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Quoting: pleasereadthemanualThis is really a program that should be kept up-to-date throughout the Fedora release rather than pinned to a certain version.

Dunno makes the decision on that (maybe it just depends on the package maintainer?), but it's probably seen as much less of a priority than things like the kernel, browser, etc. Obviously, amount of (volunteer?) manpower has to be a factor.

Quoting: pleasereadthemanualAudacity 4.0 will be Qt-based

As I recall, VLC made the same wxWidgets -> Qt transition, albeit quite a while ago now. Audacity might be one of the last high-profile projects using that GUI toolkit? I see it's still under active development, though.

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Quoting: Phlebiac

Quoting: Linux_RocksI remember when Fedora 3 came out.

You mean Fedora *Core* 3. ;-) I remember when the rumors were swirling about "Red Hat 9" being the last version.

That's right, I forgot it used to be called that. lol

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This reminds me of "Race The Sun", but looks like so much more fun!

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Quoting: pbHopefully they keep the rainbow armadillo logo.

Judging by their blog post about it - https://atari.com/blogs/newsroom/atari-revives-infogrames-as-a-publishing-label - they're using a variant of the 80s/90s logo.

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the only thing i like about that is seeing that colour scheme back

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Quoting: CaldathrasI prefer to do clean installs but having to reinstall all my games with each fixed release update was becoming an annoyance.

Keep your /home directory in a different partition or disk.
Then when you reinstall the OS all your files will be preserved.
Then just install Steam and point it to the Steam folder.

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Quoting: PhiladelphusHad to Google what the Viossa language is – apparently it's an artificial pidgin constructed from dozens of source languages, where the only way to learn is full immersion on a Discord server. (And which also apparently isn't big on standardization of things like spelling – one of the guiding principles is "if you're understood, you're speaking correctly" – which means formalizing a single version stone in Minecraft could be interesting.)

Armadillos are cool. Pangolins are cooler (), but they're already the #1 mammal we're killing for their drops in real life, so we prooobably shouldn't be encouraging it in Minecraft.

So, artificial pigeons and armadillos. Got it.

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I really don't mind if people want to play unfinished games ahead of others. What I really don't like (and will never support) is pre-ordering games which come with exclusive content only available before the release, but that's a story for another topic.

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Game developer here.

Quoting: Purple Library GuySounds kind of interesting. It says PvP . . . can you play solo at all?

It's a mostly single-player game. You can play through 100% of its content solo.

There is a split-screen local multiplayer mode that allows you to play in both coop and PvP modes.
It's optional but could be fun.
You can play this split-screen multiplayer online using things like Steam Remote Play.

I would say just give it a try. The game is free and it's around 30mb.
The game is also open source: https://github.com/quasilyte/roboden-game/

If you have some emotions after playing the game (good or bad), leave a review on Steam.
That would help me on my gamedev journey. :)
I promise to bring more cool releases to Linux (since it's my OS of choice, I use Linux on my laptops).
Fair enough? :D

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Doesn't really change anything, publishers have already been doing this for a long time.

I just don't get why would anyone pay to beta test a game. It's like going to work but instead of getting paid you pay to work.

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I tried installing this on my steam deck but could not get the game to launch for the life of me. Free EGS key installed and launched via heroic launcher. Maybe it will work now that DRM is removed.
Anybody have any recent experience launching this with heroic? Does it work yet? And if it does work and play is the performance still pretty rough?

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: wvstolzingOn the cli, it comes with a package manager of sorts; otherwise it integrates with gui managers like KDE Discover, or GNOME Software via packagekit transparently. I use `flatpak update` on the cli, whenever I check for stuff on the regular package manager.

Quoting: pleasereadthemanualYou just click the Update All button in GNOME Software or KDE Discover to update your system + Flatpak packages. They're all managed via PackageKit.

Quoting: belisamaYes, Mint has integrated Flatpak updates into its update manager.

Thanks everyone, that was very informative. And actually makes me much more likely to grab something from Flathub in future.

Ditto.

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Quoting: legluondunetWhat distribution you will advice for gaming?
From my experience, a good Linux distribution for gaming will be a distribution that will provide all packages needed for gaming:
- Proprietary and open source graphic drivers
- recent kernel
- wifi/bluetooth drivers
- wine/wine-staging
- 32 and 64 bits libraries
- Steam
- all emulators
- flatpak
- Lutris, Heroic...
- Gamescope, Mangohud
which manages dependencies efficiently: for example, if I install Lutris, also install wine, the 32 and 64 bit libraries, install the sdl libraries etc... So that the user subsequently does not have any messages error linked to a missing library when launching his games. And packages should be updated regularly.

At the moment I have successfully tested the following distributions for the game:
- Manjaro (ARCH)
- openSUSE Tumbleweed

This two distributions are rolling release so you always use recent and stable packages.

As an Ubuntu user for many years, I would not recommend this Linux distribution for gaming, I have experienced a lot of problems with unsatisfied dependencies, app packages not available, issues unresolved and its management of PPAs is complicated and degrades its stability.
Then I often encountered difficulties when updating from one version to another.


What about Fedora? I would be interested in your feedback.

I am currently setting up Mint 21.3 XFCE for gaming. I have been using Mint as my daily driver since version 13 over ten years ago.

For Linux gaming, I have tried Linux Mint (fixed release cycle), Manjaro (rolling release), and Pop!_OS (semi-rolling). With fixed releases, I prefer to do clean installs but having to reinstall all my games with each fixed release update was becoming an annoyance. Rolling releases address that concern but being bleeding edge isn't everything it is cracked up to be! The sacrifice is stability.

Honestly, Manjaro ran like crap on my legacy laptop with very poor support for my laptop's legacy Nvidia GPU. Pop!_OS does a far superior job overall but the Gnome UI takes a lot of getting used to and then there's the Pop!_Shop ... Mint's Software Manager is just so much better! I would still recommend Pop!_OS as excellent gaming distribution, however.

With the new Upgrade feature that Mint has introduced, I feel that my primary issue with fixed releases is being addressed. So I thought I'd give Mint another try, this time with the XFCE edition. Yes, the packages are not as up-to-date as in a rolling release. For the ones that matter to me, this can be gotten around via PPAs, Flatpaks, AppImages or binaries. If it requires building/compiling, I just don't bother with it. So far, the gaming experience hasn't been much different than in Pop!_OS, to be honest. I haven't yet encountered the stability issues in Ubuntu that you mentioned.

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Had to Google what the Viossa language is – apparently it's an artificial pidgin constructed from dozens of source languages, where the only way to learn is full immersion on a Discord server. (And which also apparently isn't big on standardization of things like spelling – one of the guiding principles is "if you're understood, you're speaking correctly" – which means formalizing a single version stone in Minecraft could be interesting.)

Armadillos are cool. Pangolins are cooler (), but they're already the #1 mammal we're killing for their drops in real life, so we prooobably shouldn't be encouraging it in Minecraft.

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Quoting: OktorasPatient gamer is a thing...

More and more so all the time. Currently I'm patiently waiting on a bunch of stuff:

- Warhammer Rogue Trader to fix insane balance issues / late game acts
- Starfield to make the bigger changes they announce a while back
- Dragons Dogma 2 to not try to shit itself to death constantly performance wise
- there are others, these are just my top 3

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Quoting: DoctorJunglistI'll have to give Sunshine a proper look one day.

Yesterday I could have just looked out the window. But today--well, earlier it was raining. Now I guess there's just Risk of Rain.

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Quoting: wvstolzingOn the cli, it comes with a package manager of sorts; otherwise it integrates with gui managers like KDE Discover, or GNOME Software via packagekit transparently. I use `flatpak update` on the cli, whenever I check for stuff on the regular package manager.

Quoting: pleasereadthemanualYou just click the Update All button in GNOME Software or KDE Discover to update your system + Flatpak packages. They're all managed via PackageKit.

Quoting: belisamaYes, Mint has integrated Flatpak updates into its update manager.

Thanks everyone, that was very informative. And actually makes me much more likely to grab something from Flathub in future.

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A lot of talk about the high seas . . . It occurs to me that if you were actually on the high seas, in international waters, with a satellite internet connection . . . piracy would be legal.

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