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Trolling Delays Linux Release Of The Stanley Parable

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With all the great leaps forward which Linux gaming has made recently, it is sad to see when a step backward is made. Rather than a new game appearing on the ever-expanding library of Linux games, today it seems a game has been delayed due to the actions of a few.

The Stanley Parable was set to have a Linux port, with one of the developers working on it in his spare time, showing a positive and committed attitude towards the port which he was seemingly doing out of enjoyment. As is the norm on Steam, a series of “+1” comments and support followed with gamers eager to get their hands on this unique, story-rich, exploration/adventure game.

However, following a string of harassment from Linux users in the Steam forums (and perhaps more worryingly, in private emails), the developer has stated that he is now only working on the port in a much more limited way and has abandoned working on it in his spare time since the abuse has taken away any enjoyment he got from it. As a result, the port will take far longer than anticipated. At the same time, I fear that any 'backlash' of abusive comments could lead to all work being abandoned:

QuoteGran PC [developer]
This is exactly the case. I do like spending my free time working on games (before Stanley Parable was released, we worked on it pretty much all day!), but due to some harassment I have received regarding this subject (both on these forums and to my personal email), this port is no longer fun to work on, but more like a frustrating experience when you are trying to cater to an userbase that seems to mostly hate you. So it should come as no surprise that I am working on it only in some sort of limited 'work' time instead of pretty much all day. Sorry!

For the record, I am aware that it is just a vocal minority, but unfortunately it is hard to just shrug it off when it is actually the majority of the comments you hear about the Linux port.


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So it seems that the more militant wing of Linux users has put the developer off the port and tarnished his view of the community. This unfortunately not an isolated incident, and from what I have seen in on other forums, there are many out there who have begun to view Linux users as fanatics using abuse as a means to get the platform greater attention. Needless to say, this kind of behaviour by a very vocal minority threatens the progress which has been made towards making Linux a first-class citizen in the world of gaming and needs to stop.

There is no doubt that the internet has done great things in terms of giving people a voice, most of us know that it is often the voice of the uninformed and aggressive which is loudest on the web. While of course this is far from unique to Linux users, it is certainly more damaging for a user base which - already burdened by (misguided) preconceptions of being a niche market of militant power users and hackers - is trying to be taken seriously.

At the same time, this is worsened by a sense of entitlement shared by gamers across platforms whereby people feel that they can dictate to developers how and when they want their games whilst voicing outrage when things aren't exactly how they want them. While the interactivity and communication given by the internet has benefited gaming greatly in the areas of crowdsourcing and alpha-funding, in many areas it has created a climate of fear among developers. There is a thin line between the kind of animosity which prevents draconian DRM measures and the kind of animosity where developers feel that they need to increasingly pander towards gamers by changing the game to suit particular tastes in a kind of mob-rule which denies them artistic licence, forcing them to make alternate endings to games and sacrificing their vision to keep the mob satisfied.

This sense of entitlement has unfortunately seeped into the Linux world, where maybe three years ago we were ecstatic to hear that we had a bad port of an obscure indie title or finally getting an ancient relic of a game working through Wine, we now feel outrage when a game isn’t released at the same time as on other platforms or lacks some minor feature present in the Windows version of the game. In some ways this is a positive sign of how far Linux Gaming has come and our expectations along with it, but reactions such as this one to Expeditions: Conquistador lacking achievements on Linux are counter-productive and, unfortunately, commonplace:

QuoteArcanoxer
Still no Acheivements under Linux?
The Devs really don't give a shi* about the Linux port, to bad. /:


Despite providing a great port of a great game (after a little bit of a rocky start) on a platform which unfortunately still holds a tiny fraction of the overall market, rather than expressing gratitude, this user decided to make a stab at the developer (which they saw and responded to). While we know that with the advent of SteamOS and other such developments are making the future for Linux Gaming look bright, we have to understand that - from the point of view of developers - porting and making games for Linux can still seem like a daunting, time-consuming financial risk and negative responses to their efforts could put them off the platform for good (especially with small indie devs which monitor the community regularly, like those behind The Stanley Parable and Expeditions: Conquistador).

The reality is that although we are feeling the euphoria of games like XCOM: Enemy Unknown and Civilization V being ported- for now - Linux Gaming is still in quite a fragile infancy stage where any number of factors could result in it becoming a failed experiment like the Ouya, whose promise was overshadowed by a lack in decent titles and therefore market share. What happened with The Stanley Parable has demonstrated that the availability of Linux titles - and thus the success of Linux gaming as a whole - still largely depends on the existing user base and not solely on the future users which Valve has promised.

There is little the civilised majority can do in the ways of stopping this very vocal minority from acting the way they do, but we can drown them out by showing developers what the community is really like, as people did with the Aspyr Media port of Civilization V, expressing gratitude which they acknowledged and responded to positively. While it is largely down to companies like Valve to turn Linux into a credible gaming platform, it is also down to the community to ensure that this progress doesn’t go to waste by maintaining the momentum and hype they helped to create.

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The Stanley Parable is a first person exploration game. You will play as Stanley, and you will not play as Stanley. You will follow a story, you will not follow a story. You will have a choice, you will have no choice. The game will end, the game will never end.

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After many years of floating through space on the back of a missile, following a successful career in beating people up for not playing Sega Saturn, the missile returned to earth. Upon returning, I discovered to my dismay that the once great console had been discontinued and Sega had abandoned the fight to dominate the world through 32-bit graphical capabilities.

After spending some years breaking breeze blocks with my head for money and being mocked by strangers, I have found a new purpose: to beat up people for not playing on Linux.
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jdub Jun 23, 2014
Quoting: Gran PC
Quoting: jdubSome devs need to realize steam forums are the worst...every steam community is balls. Taking what trolls say (and there will ALWAYS be trolls) personally is really not professional...announcing it on the forums is just setting yourself up for this.
Alright then, I guess I'll have to start ignoring my email, the forums and all other channels through which the community can give me feedback.

(I don't disagree with you that the Steam forums are pretty bad in general though)

Nobody said to ignore your emails. Just ignore the ones that are from angry idiots.
scaine Jun 23, 2014
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It's quite hard to be selective on ignoring people, especially when they email you. Every time someone flames your inbox, it's a depressing reminder that trolls are on your back.

That kind of harassment is pretty despicable. I'm gutted that GranPC is taking this action, as I am mega-excited about his game and I'm Linux only, but honestly, it's only way to properly respond that will get any respect (from trolls). And he remains professionally committed to the port, so there shouldn't be any complaints.

There will be complaints of course, because, as Dr McCoy notes, people are dicks. Not all people. Just... enough people.
sev Jun 23, 2014
The internet is still the internet. Just because people troll and deride the dev about not caring about Linux does not mean they were actually Linux users. It's too bad that the dev is letting trolls stop him from expanding his market. I hope he shrugs it off and learns to ignore the negativity online.
novemberist Jun 23, 2014
So, I've been reading through the linked Steam discussion and quite honestly, I can't see any form of harassment or trolling there. Nothing that would justify all the fuss at least. Apparently GranPC feels offended by people writing "+1 for linux" (merely expressing their support for a linux version) ... so maybe the problem is one of mutual misunderstanding than of what he calls "harassment" in the end.

As a developer stating publically on the Steam forum that you are ready to do the Linux port on your own, you should be thick-skinned enough to deal with people's impatience and answer to (some) of their legitimate questions.
Gran PC Jun 23, 2014
Quoting: novemberistSo, I've been reading through the linked Steam discussion and quite honestly, I can't see any form of harassment or trolling there. Nothing that would justify all the fuss at least. Apparently GranPC feels offended by people writing "+1 for linux" (merely expressing their support for a linux version) ... so maybe the problem is one of mutual misunderstanding than of what he calls "harassment" in the end.

It is mostly removed from the forums (edited out by the author or moderators or post removed altogether). You probably won't find my emails on the forums either -- and I am not offended about people writing "+1 for linux" (just legitimately didn't understand what the point was -- having announced that the port was coming) - sorry for the misunderstanding there.

As the original post stated, I am also still working on the port, just not in my personal time.

One last note -- I am actually pretty blown away by the new messages I have been receiving/seeing on forums, articles like these, etc. It actually does help put things in scale. So thank you for that.
DrMcCoy Jun 23, 2014
Quoting: Gran PC"+1 for linux" (just legitimately didn't understand what the point was -- having announced that the port was coming)

I can of course only speak for myself, but for me it's kinda of an enthusiastic "me too". To show that there are people who care, who look forward to it.

Like I said on the Steam forums, I bought the game solely because of the announced Linux port. I haven't even downloaded it yet in Steam, since I'm Linux-exclusive for over 10 years now.

For what it's worth, if you need help debugging a Linux build, I can offer my help and gdb-/valgrind-experience. My OpenGL knowledge is limited and I don't know anything about Valve's Source engine (which is what you're using, no?), but I do know C and C++ and I think I know a bit about best practices on GNU/Linux.
novemberist Jun 23, 2014
Quoting: Gran PCIt is mostly removed from the forums (edited out by the author or moderators or post removed altogether). You probably won't find my emails on the forums either -- and I am not offended about people writing "+1 for linux" (just legitimately didn't understand what the point was -- having announced that the port was coming) - sorry for the misunderstanding there.

As the original post stated, I am also still working on the port, just not in my personal time.

One last note -- I am actually pretty blown away by the new messages I have been receiving/seeing on forums, articles like these, etc. It actually does help put things in scale. So thank you for that.

So what are people actually complaining about mostly? Usually people (even on Steam) are very euphoric about any Linux port that is officially announced. I don't get why they would be so outrageous. And unless it turns out to be a legitimately objectionable port (I'm looking at you TW2) I've never seen them complain in such a way as described here.

"+1 for linux" could also just mean: Here is another person that appreciates your efforts to do a linux port. Nothing wrong with that.

I don't know how your company actually works, but why would they have you working on it in your free time in the first place? They can expect some considerable revenue from a linux port, so they should really assign (and pay) a developer to do this full-time...
Gran PC Jun 23, 2014
Quoting: DrMcCoy
Quoting: Gran PC"+1 for linux" (just legitimately didn't understand what the point was -- having announced that the port was coming)
I can of course only speak for myself, but for me it's kinda of an enthusiastic "me too". To show that there are people who care, who look forward to it.

Like I said on the Steam forums, I bought the game solely because of the announced Linux port. I haven't even downloaded it yet in Steam, since I'm Linux-exclusive for over 10 years now.

For what it's worth, if you need help debugging a Linux build, I can offer my help and gdb-/valgrind-experience. My OpenGL knowledge is limited and I don't know anything about Valve's Source engine (which is what you're using, no?), but I do know C and C++ and I think I know a bit about best practices on GNU/Linux.

Yup, we're using Source. It has a lot of wrappers around Windows things to work on Linux -- feels kinda hacked together, but I suppose it works.

I may need your help when I reach beta -- when I release, if you don't have a copy, just email me :)
Gran PC Jun 23, 2014
Quoting: novemberist
Quoting: Gran PCIt is mostly removed from the forums (edited out by the author or moderators or post removed altogether). You probably won't find my emails on the forums either -- and I am not offended about people writing "+1 for linux" (just legitimately didn't understand what the point was -- having announced that the port was coming) - sorry for the misunderstanding there.

As the original post stated, I am also still working on the port, just not in my personal time.

One last note -- I am actually pretty blown away by the new messages I have been receiving/seeing on forums, articles like these, etc. It actually does help put things in scale. So thank you for that.
So what are people actually complaining about mostly? Usually people (even on Steam) are very euphoric about any Linux port that is officially announced. I don't get why they would be so outrageous. And unless it turns out to be a legitimately objectionable port (I'm looking at you TW2) I've never seen them complain in such a way as described here.

"+1 for linux" could also just mean: Here is another person that appreciates your efforts to do a linux port. Nothing wrong with that.

I don't know how your company actually works, but why would they have you working on it in your free time in the first place? They can expect some considerable revenue from a linux port, so they should really assign (and pay) a developer to do this full-time...

One of the most common complaints I have seen are "omg you ported to osx first and the linux port isnt out yet wtf theyre almost the same".

They don't have me working in my free time. I work in my free time because I like making games. I am still working on the port in 'company' time.

[edit: 'company' time isn't very strictly defined, but bottom line is that I am obviously still working on it. hopefully I will have news to share soon.]
Segata Sanshiro Jun 23, 2014
QuoteI don't know how your company actually works, but why would they have you working on it in your free time in the first place? They can expect some considerable revenue from a linux port, so they should really assign (and pay) a developer to do this full-time...

If you read Gran's post, he was doing it in his free time because he enjoyed it. He is also being paid to do it during office hours, that's why its delayed but not canceled. That's probably the worst thing about this - not only were people trolling a dev, but a dev who was doing a nice thing and who clearly enjoys his work.
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