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Mad Max and Shadow of Mordor delisted for Linux and macOS on Steam

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It seems Feral Interactive have a few less ports available to buy supported for Linux and macOS to start off 2021 with as both Mad Max and Shadow of Mordor have been delisted for both platforms.

The change happened just before the end of 2020 on both titles, as seen on SteamDB (#1 - #2). On the macOS side, they lost even more as a few Lego titles also vanished and Batman: Arkham City too from mentioning macOS. Why? They all have a common publisher - Warner. Confirming this to me on Twitter, Feral Interactive stated "Hi, these games have been removed from sale on macOS/Linux due to their licenses expiring.".

So what does this actually mean? The Linux ports still exist, still work as expected and anyone who buys them on Steam would still get them too as they're attached to standard purchases. Going forward though, they're not being advertised or supported.

A shame but actually somewhat common. We see this with racing games, football games, and sometimes music also causes issues and more where licenses are often for a specific time period. In this case it's a bit more unique that it only affected the external ports.

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Mohandevir Jan 4, 2021
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Quoting: sbolokanovLinux is an OS made for people who want power. If one doesn't want power, one shouldn't be playing with it.

This piece got me thinking... Why is Valve still supporting Linux, at this point, if it all comes to this?

Because their bribery deal with Microsoft must be continually renewed, and the threat of Linux must remain to keep the monopoly stronghold money flowing.

Forgot about that part... Thanks for the reminder... It explains Much.

It would hurt much less if I didn't had a 350+ Steam game library that I paid for, in the vast majority, because of the Linux support that came with it.

Think I'll wait for Valve to clean that mess (ProtonDB) in some way, before buying a new game on Steam. If it doesn't happen, Stadia is doing the job, for the moment. Anyway, buying computer parts is nothing short of a miracle, atm... Another argument in favor of Stadia.


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furaxhornyx Jan 5, 2021
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Quoting: Mohandevir
Quoting: sbolokanovLinux is an OS made for people who want power. If one doesn't want power, one shouldn't be playing with it.

This piece got me thinking... Why is Valve still supporting Linux, at this point, if it all comes to this?

Maybe Valve is still planning on doing something with their SteamOS ?
rustybroomhandle Jan 5, 2021
Quoting: MohandevirThis piece got me thinking... Why is Valve still supporting Linux, at this point, if it all comes to this?

Well, there's good reason to think that Microsoft will slowly be phasing out the "PC" as it is in its current form by turning Windows into a thin client, moving to cloud based software mostly, with gaming being provided by streaming. It's easy to laugh at Stadia, but that too is a real threat to PC gaming in its current form. Desktop PC as it is today will then basically mean not running Windows.

Valve's goal for the contractors working on Proton is to make every single game work on Linux. So yeah, they can either do another round of Steam Machines then, to make sure their catalogue continues to have a place to live.

Or wouldn't it be hilarious if Valve signed a licensing deal with Sony to make the PS6 effectively a Playstation branded Steam Machine?
Purple Library Guy Jan 5, 2021
Quoting: Guest
Quoting: Mohandevir
Quoting: sbolokanovLinux is an OS made for people who want power. If one doesn't want power, one shouldn't be playing with it.

This piece got me thinking... Why is Valve still supporting Linux, at this point, if it all comes to this?

Because their bribery deal with Microsoft must be continually renewed, and the threat of Linux must remain to keep the monopoly stronghold money flowing.
I'm sure I must have known something about this, but I've lost track. What deal?
bolokanar Jan 5, 2021
Quoting: Mohandevir
Quoting: sbolokanovLinux is an OS made for people who want power. If one doesn't want power, one shouldn't be playing with it.

This piece got me thinking... Why is Valve still supporting Linux, at this point, if it all comes to this?

It's an additional market. As small as it might be. Just because we are not the average user, it does not mean that we do not play games.
Plus it gives them an edge when interacting with Microsoft. So they can keep them in check.

By the way, Proton is not an official flag for supporting titles on Linux. It's just that tool that gives users the option to play games via WINE with a single click (or at least that's what they claim).
And unless the publishers keep track for who play via Proton, one is possibly counted as yet another Windows user.


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TheSHEEEP Jan 5, 2021
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Quoting: sbolokanovAnd unless the publishers keep track for who play via Proton, one is possibly counted as yet another Windows user.
I'm 90% sure Proton plays are counted as Linux ones. Probably read that here in an article.

Now, if some games have other, internal, Steam-independant reporting for platforms that wrongly count WINE as Windows, that's of course a different question.


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bolokanar Jan 5, 2021
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Quoting: sbolokanovAnd unless the publishers keep track for who play via Proton, one is possibly counted as yet another Windows user.
I'm 90% sure Proton plays are counted as Linux ones. Probably read that here in an article.

Now, if some games have other, internal, Steam-independant reporting for platforms that wrongly count WINE as Windows, that's of course a different question.
Yeah. On Steam side it's probably thought of. What I was really hinting there is my disbelieve that publishers do really care. For them, getting some extra money for no real investment is rather sweet.


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rustybroomhandle Jan 5, 2021
Quoting: sbolokanovAnd unless the publishers keep track for who play via Proton, one is possibly counted as yet another Windows user.

You'll be happy to know that the data available to the publisher from Steam does in fact keep track of how many people are playing on Linux via Proton.
Vasya Sovari Jan 5, 2021
Quoting: MohandevirIs it just me? I feel like Steam's Linux gaming is gradually falling into a chaotic mess. Linux native ports that suddenly stop being supported... Native ports that run worse than the windows version run through proton... Windows games run only through proton... I have 2 exemples of games that got a gold rating on protondb, but just won't run adequately: Rage 2 that just keeps on crashing every 5 mins, no matter the tweaks I try and Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order, that becomes a slide show when you hit the start button... Why gold?! These 2 should get a silver rating max, imo...

I'm beginning to doubt all I read about Linux games that are supposedly running like champs. I don't know what to believe anymore. It's just getting more confusing than anything else.


I bought the Resident Evil remake yesterday, which has Platinum rating on ProtonDB

The page is full of people reporting perfect compatibility IF you install windows binaries with Winetricks and Protontricks, which may require 10+ permission changes.

That, to me, is not Platinum. It's Silver at best. As it was, the fixes completely failed and I got a refund. ProtonDB is a disaster area and needs fixing *incredibly badly*
Vasya Sovari Jan 5, 2021
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Quoting: undeadbydawnSpeaking from harsh experience, Shadow Of Mordor is no great loss. The Linux version was so bad I never got beyond the menu screen, while it was completely flawless - including all online elements - under Glorious Eggroll. While I'm still more likely to buy a game if it offers a Linux version, I generally expect to play under Proton.

Add me as another that played through it back in the fall of 2017...

I strongly suspect there are a load of games Feral got working really nicely on Linux a few years back, then did zero maintenance. The games (and Steam itself) may have been updated, but the Feral ports have not. The result is previously flawless experiences now a complete mess.
Since Proton is being actively worked on by a surprisingly dedicated team, with Frogging and Eggroll doing amazing work in parallel, it's not overly surprising that they're taking over.

That said I had 100% positive experienced with Tomb Raider
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