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AMD announced "Zen 4" with Ryzen 7000 series, RDNA3 teased

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AMD has revealed their next-generation Zen 4 processors with the Ryzen 7000 series that will be launching September 27.

They're saying it will give a "double-digit" IPC (instructions per cycle/clock) uplift compared to the previous generation. AMD are also claiming they will be a lot more efficient than before, leveraging the power management tech from their mobile processors.

Here's the models they've announced for now:

 Model  Cores/Threads  Boost / Base Frequency  Total Cache  PCIe  TDP Price
 AMD Ryzen 9 7950X  16C/32T  Up to 5.7 / 4.5 GHZ  80MB  Gen 5  170W  $699
 AMD Ryzen 9 7900X  12C/24T  Up to 5.6 / 4.7 GHZ  76MB  Gen 5  170W  $549
 AMD Ryzen 7 7700X  8C/16T  Up to 5.4 / 4.5 GHZ  40MB  Gen 5  105W  $399
 AMD Ryzen 5 7600X  6C/12T  Up to 5.3 / 4.7 GHZ  38MB  Gen 5  105W  $299

This also comes with the new AM5 platform with dual-channel DD5 memory support, up to 24 PCIe 5.0 lanes and they say AM5 will be supported through to 2025. So you're going to be good for the next few generations of AMD processors with AM5. Installation they said will be easier than before with the 1718 pin LGA socket, it supports AM4 coolers too.

These are the chipsets that will be offered:

  • AMD X670 Extreme: Bringing the most connectivity and extreme overclocking capabilities with PCIe 5.0 support for graphics and storage.
  • AMD X670: Supporting enthusiast overclocking with PCIe® 5.0 support for storage and optional graphics support.
  • AMD B650E: Designed for performance users with PCIe® 5.0 storage support and optional graphics support.
  • AMD B650: Designed for mainstream users with support for DDR5 memory and optional PCIe® 5.0 support.

AMD X670 and X670E will be available in September but the B650E and B650 set land in October.

We also got a brief teaser of their next-generation GPUs with RDNA3 as well. During the event AMD CEO Dr. Lisa Su mentioned it uses 5nm chiplets, to provide a "more than 50%" performance per watt uplift compared to RDNA2.

You can watch the full event below:

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BlackBloodRum Aug 31, 2022
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Quoting: denyasisI think it's cool, but support until 2025... That seems a little short. Is it?

I mean most won't get these until 2023, and maybe I'm weird, but I don't buy hardware with the intent to replace it in just a few years.

It should mean that they will bring new processors for the platform in 2025 - not that you cannot use your old processor anymore after 2025. I cannot think of a case where I replaced a processor, but not mainboard, RAM, ...
Twice in recent memory, with current AM4... 1800/3700/5800.
Multiple times more in ancient history, which many of you may not remember, or weren't even born. I remember several generations of 3- and 486es, and a couple of Athlons, all running fine in the same main boards as their predecessors, and often more than one upgrade. I have always been assembling my machines myself, and I have always hated when I had to upgrade the main boards... and still do.

As such, I agree, "until" 2025 is rather short. If you read it critically, that covers two years. Barely enough for one end-of-life upgrade.
I'm old enough to remember building my own AMD Athlon 64 3000+ machine, does that count?

64-bit support with Linux at the time, and an almost non-exist windows 64-bit. The Good ol' days!
ElamanOpiskelija Aug 31, 2022
Quoting: BlackBloodRumI'm old enough to remember building my own AMD Athlon 64 3000+ machine, does that count?

64-bit support with Linux at the time, and an almost non-exist windows 64-bit. The Good ol' days!

OK boomer... my first AMD was an 486, but you do you...
Eike Aug 31, 2022
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Quoting: Valck
Quoting: EikeI cannot think of a case where I replaced a processor, but not mainboard, RAM, ...
Twice in recent memory, with current AM4... 1800/3700/5800.
Multiple times more in ancient history, which many of you may not remember, or weren't even born.

Got my first computer in 1984, so... :)

Quoting: ValckI remember several generations of 3- and 486es, and a couple of Athlons, all running fine in the same main boards as their predecessors, and often more than one upgrade. I have always been assembling my machines myself, and I have always hated when I had to upgrade the main boards... and still do.

I keep and kept my CPU longer and often only exchanged the GPU. My last three CPUs were Q6600 (IIRC), i5-3570K and Ryzen 7 3700X. (Always wanted to write that stuff down so I don't forget my personal computer history.)
denyasis Aug 31, 2022
Sorry guys, didn't mean to cause any controversy.

I guess, depending on your personal building history, a short socket life can be a bummer. I certainly remember people being very mad at AMD and Intel for changing their sockets "too soon". If 2 years of socket life is normal now, I guess it's expected to replace everything on upgrade.

I know socket life used to matter to me at one time, being younger, having more money and expecting to upgrade the processor at least one during a lifetime.
But in reality, I tended to hold onto hardware much longer, way beyond the lifetime of a socket. I guess if that's typical behavior, I could see why they wouldn't invest in long term sockets, since it'll mostly be useless.
ridge Sep 1, 2022
Quoting: ShmerlAlso, how do you apply thermal paste on that heat spreader plate? I.e. won't it go into those openings?

I saw a picture of a Ryzen 7000 CPU with thermal paste residue from a removed cooler, and it looks like it'll work completely fine. Cannot find the pic anymore, I'm afraid, but it applies very nicely from what I saw.
Eike Sep 1, 2022
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Quoting: denyasisSorry guys, didn't mean to cause any controversy.

I think it's all fine, just exchanging some experiences. YOou brought up an interesting topic IMHO.

Quoting: denyasisI know socket life used to matter to me at one time, being younger, having more money and expecting to upgrade the processor at least one during a lifetime.

There might have been technical reasons as well. Back then when CPUs actually got double the speed after two years, not only some extra cores (which many games will find hard to make additional use of).
denyasis Sep 1, 2022
Quoting: EikeThere might have been technical reasons as well. Back then when CPUs actually got double the speed after two years, not only some extra cores (which many games will find hard to make additional use of).

Very true. I'd also imagine the CPU design was probably much simpler 10+ years ago, which probably meant it was easier to stay in one socket for longer.

I guess on the one hand. Looking at my machine and the "giant" Noctuna cooler covering half my board.... I'm can kinda see why I'd upgrade everything. Just getting to the CPU is enough to make me want to toss everything out, lol
tonR Sep 4, 2022
Speaking about Pluton, my second concern (after privacy) is backward compatibility. The issue here, will any old devices or operating systems (regardless FOSS or propriety) will function as is in the future? Will hardware or software manufacturer not abusing it by blocking the outdated drivers or softwares via it in the name of "security"?

I do not want to be conspiracy theorist, but we speaking about MS here. Hell, even Apple have better track record in FOSS community, for example helps Asahi Linux team by not making their job harder.

And I hope Pluton will be cracked or at least can be bypass like Secure Boot.
jarhead_h Sep 5, 2022
Guys, it's VERY likely that the CCP launches an invasion of RoC(Taiwan) very soon, like before Thanksgiving or even Halloween. This matters because AMD IS ENTIRELY DEPENDENT ON TSMC. TSMC does not have a backup chip foundry anywhere in the world, and won't for a couple of years as the earliest that the fab in Phoenix is set to open is something like 2023 or 2024. So factor in normal launch shortages in addition to all the other problems and I wouldn't get your hopes up on buying a Zen 7000. Or RDNA3.

I put my money where my mouth is and just pulled the trigger on both a 5900X and a RX6800XT for my existing ASUS Prime B550, which may get upgraded to a TUFF X570. That should handle everything I play at 4K well enough. And it will last a good two-three years which should be long enough for all of this to shake out.
Shmerl Sep 5, 2022
I think AMD were working with Samsung on that, but so far yeah, they are pretty dependent on TSMC.
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