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Raspberry Pi 5 announced - still tiny, much more powerful

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Well this is a nice surprise to wake up to on a Thursday, as the Raspberry Pi 5 is now formally announced with some impressive specs. So here's the details.

Coming at the end of October you'll be able to grab either a 4GB ($60 / £60) or 8GB ($80 / £80) model. They say "virtually every aspect of the platform has been upgraded" and that it's "over twice as fast as its predecessor" with their own silicon designed in-house in the UK.

Key Features:

  • 2.4GHz quad-core 64-bit Arm Cortex-A76 CPU
  • VideoCore VII GPU, supporting OpenGL ES 3.1, Vulkan 1.2
  • Dual 4Kp60 HDMI® display output
  • 4Kp60 HEVC decoder
  • Dual-band 802.11ac Wi-Fi®
  • Bluetooth 5.0 / Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE)
  • High-speed microSD card interface with SDR104 mode support
  • 2 × USB 3.0 ports, supporting simultaneous 5Gbps operation
  • 2 × USB 2.0 ports
  • Gigabit Ethernet, with PoE+ support (requires separate PoE+ HAT, coming soon)
  • 2 × 4-lane MIPI camera/display transceivers
  • PCIe 2.0 x1 interface for fast peripherals
  • Raspberry Pi standard 40-pin GPIO header
  • Real-time clock
  • Power button

They made two videos to go along with the announcement, one without talking and one with Eben Upton going over the details, both can be viewed below:

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If you're after benchmarks, it seems they sent Phoronix an early unit. Going by their benchmarks, it really is an impressive leap over the RPi4. I'm trying to convince myself I don't need it…

With new hardware, comes new software, and so they will also be releasing a brand new version of their first-party Raspberry Pi OS, built on top of the most recent Debian release and that will release mid-October shortly before the RPi5 launches officially in late-October.

The announcement post goes over a little history, including a note about how they managed to sell over 14 million of the RPi4 which is pretty impressive.

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Eri Sep 28, 2023
Quoting: "Liam Dawe"I'm trying to convince myself I don't need it…
Me too I only have a Pi3 that works good as a media center on my living room and I don't need another one but after seeing the videos... damn I want one
Liam Dawe Sep 28, 2023
Quoting: PenglingIt happened back in February 2021 - there's an article that gave a good rundown about it and the fallout here.
I never really got the fuss over it personally. It's just a repo and as a distro they're free to do whatever they want. People could just remove it or use a different distro. Unless people suddenly think having a repo harms their PC in some way, it felt massively overblown to me.
Linux_Rocks Sep 28, 2023
Cool, I was holding off on getting another one for just this very reason. I've got a Raspberry Pi 3 Model A+ that I use as a DreamPi for my Dreamcast. But I've wanted another more powerful one to just mess around with, and maybe to use as a FreeBSD file server eventually.
Kithop Sep 28, 2023
Yeah no, not after this fiasco: link

Not trusting any of their newer hardware on my home network.
drlamb Sep 28, 2023
100% an insta buy for me as I run my model train railroad using a Pi-SPROG and an overclocked Pi4 at the moment.

It'll probably take a bit for Fedora (specifically the IoT variant) to support the Pi5 but I should be able to swap SSDs over once it's ready.

Edit: Pre-ordered.


Last edited by drlamb on 28 September 2023 at 3:01 pm UTC
slembcke Sep 28, 2023
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Neat! The Pi4 has been my min spec for developing Veridian Expanse ever since they made the Vulkan driver for it. Though I'm feeling a bit frustrated still that the Mesa version they ship with the default OS is *years* out of date and performs quite badly to the current version. I suppose this means that the v-sync issues will probably never be fixed on the Pi4 too. :( (IIRC it uses a software interrupt instead of a hardware one as a workaround for GPU firmware issues causing consistent tearing under even moderate load)

A little conflicted about what I should do at this point. Like targeting the Pi4 as a min spec has always been justified as "why not?" Maybe the Debian Bookworm OS update will magically fix everything when that finally drops. >_>
nlborlcl Sep 28, 2023
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I don't need it.
I don't need it.
<looks back>
I don't need it.....
ElectricPrism Sep 28, 2023
Quoting: KithopYeah no, not after this fiasco: link

Not trusting any of their newer hardware on my home network.

I'm typically on the fence on these kinds of issues.

FTA: " designed in-house in the UK"

IIUC for context it sounds like they must be a UK cop.

The UK is "interesting..." and UK cops are pretty infamous. I really think the UK is parasitized by other governments as their actions typically would appear to advance ulterior party's agendas.

If anyone knows of any similar open hardware where the chips aren't trademark secret blob code let me know -- I'd love to find a winner in this SBC space.

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Quoting: ArehandoroI like the update, but I honestly think they'd be better off removing microsd and adding ssd.
Let's hope they have reserved enough bandwith for a SSD expansion module. It makes sense to keep microsd for those who want to run it fanless.

It sounds like their MicroSD is faster, but is it as fast as the Steam Deck? I forgot the tag for the new tech -- I thought it was "II".

I do agree, (at least for me personally,) I would have gladly traded for a m.2 2230. Maybe it's not small enough? The microSD feels like a relic from times past, still I see their thought process in if it's not broke, don't fix it -- because fans are used to it.

But for me personally, as a potential new fan, I'm not drawn to it without being able to have a 2230 really.


Last edited by ElectricPrism on 28 September 2023 at 9:48 pm UTC
Pengling Sep 29, 2023
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Quoting: Liam DaweI never really got the fuss over it personally. It's just a repo and as a distro they're free to do whatever they want. People could just remove it or use a different distro. Unless people suddenly think having a repo harms their PC in some way, it felt massively overblown to me.
I totally respect that view. Some people definitely did overblow it!

For me personally, though, it was a trust issue, as well as the aforementioned concern about an outside business being pushed by an educational charity (who for some reason didn't use the addition as an opportunity to teach users how to add what they wanted) - I don't personally like the practise of automatically adding and trusting something without informing the user in any way. I use Linux for many reasons, but one is because it doesn't do stuff like that that.

But that's just me, and like I said, their hardware really is great!
emphy Sep 29, 2023
Looks interesting, but not a fan of the increased power demands. Having to get a new (more expensive?) adapter and more powerful cooling worsens the value proposition generation by generation.

Quoting: ElectricPrismI do agree, (at least for me personally,) I would have gladly traded for a m.2 2230. Maybe it's not small enough? The microSD feels like a relic from times past, still I see their thought process in if it's not broke, don't fix it -- because fans are used to it.

It's got pcie2.0, so we should be seeing cases with m.2 or sata hat integrated. Similar to the current crop of pi4 cases with usb3 to m.2/sata convertors, but without the external usb bridge connector.


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