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We can probably say a final goodbye to Roblox on Linux with Wine soon

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After Roblox recently introduced Hyperion anti-tamper, there were some issues running it on Linux, but there's been workarounds and some of the Roblox staff made it to work on Linux with Wine again, but it seems not for much longer.

This ongoing saga of Roblox working, then not working, then working again and so on looks like it's about to end and not in a good way for people playing it on Linux with Wine. The info comes from the Roblox developer forum (login required), spread across a few posts in the topic "Why isn’t Hyperion an anti-cheat?".

Roblox staff member Bitdancer once again answering lots of questions, and then this was noted:

We have a similar issue with our unofficial Wine support. We see it being used for cheating, which is heartbreaking, to be honest, as this was a personal effort of our developers under the assumption that folks out there would understand and not misuse it.

In reply to a user asking if "Roblox on Linux is likely not gonna last much longer?", Bitdancer replied:

I am very sorry, but you are correct. Unfortunately, we have exhausted our options.

Further expanding on the why:

Wine is an excellent tool for reverse engineering. Additionally, we had to disable many antitamper checks to make Hyperion run on Wine. This has allowed interested parties to learn a lot about the internal workings of Hyperion, relevant to both Win32 and UWP. As the initial shock of Hyperion’s release started wearing off, many people have begun discovering the various angles through which one can learn more about the inner workings of Hyperion. Apparently, many have done just that, necessitating us to become more strict.

Continuing across another post:

The reason I gave above is one, rather significant, reason but not the only one. There have been many contributing factors. For example, the increased detection of cheating on Wine, the floundering of Wine-based Roblox exploits on different Discord servers, and the question of maintainability. Hyperion is a complex piece of software; we introduced more than one bug in Hyperion because we wanted to make something work on Wine. Ultimately, every responsible company must ask whether it is worth the effort. Who is responsible when things go wrong? What does unofficial support really mean? How many users of other platforms will be inconvenienced by our decision to support Wine? How can we make features such as kernel components work, and so much more.

As they explained in the quotes above, it doesn't necessarily mean Linux players specifically are the ones actually cheating, but the way they enabled it to work has allowed cheat makers to look a bit more behind the scenes to enable cheats even on Windows.

So, if you are playing it on Linux, or you were wanting to, it certainly sounds like it will be entirely blocked at some point. A shame, considering how massive a platform Roblox is. It's good to see their team be so clear and open about the issues though, rather than just blocking it and not giving an answer like plenty of other games do.

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Tags: Anti-Cheat, Misc, Wine
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hardpenguin Feb 26
QuoteI am very sorry, but you are correct. Unfortunately, we have exhausted our options.
Sorry enough to release an official native Linux client with official anti-cheat support?
hardpenguin Feb 26
Quoting: hardpenguin
QuoteI am very sorry(...)
Sorry enough to release an official native Linux client with official anti-cheat support?

Do we know an example of a game with a native build & official anti-cheat support (BattlEye, EAC) that has dropped Linux support because of cheaters? Lol.
Liam Dawe Feb 26
Quoting: hardpenguin
Quoting: hardpenguin
QuoteI am very sorry(...)
Sorry enough to release an official native Linux client with official anti-cheat support?

Do we know an example of a game with a native build & official anti-cheat support (BattlEye, EAC) that has dropped Linux support because of cheaters? Lol.
Rust.
Pengling Feb 26
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QuoteUltimately, every responsible company must ask whether it is worth the effort. Who is responsible when things go wrong?
I find it interesting how this gets asked about Wine support, and not about how anti-cheat/anti-tamper rootkits create large attack surfaces that usually affect people who don't know any better and don't know what's going on. Perhaps that's just me, though.
My daughters were both addicted to Roblox when they initially released their AC and I refused to set up anything windows based in my home so they had to go cold turkey. They've been able to play again since September or so but the old one seems mostly weened off and the younger one isn't as susceptible to hardcore addiction as the older, so she'll be fine. Adios, Roblox.
elmapul Feb 26
i dont know why they bother to reply, linux users will ignore it and pretend there is an easy solution, when there isnt any.

the cheating industry move more money than the linux gaming industry, and as an result there is more money being poured into cheating solutions.

not to mention that cheaters just need to find 1 flaw to cheat, while anti cheat solution need to find ALL the flaws to stop cheatters.


Last edited by elmapul on 26 February 2024 at 1:18 pm UTC
hardpenguin Feb 26
Quoting: Liam Dawe
Quoting: hardpenguin(..)
Do we know an example of a game with a native build & official anti-cheat support (BattlEye, EAC) that has dropped Linux support because of cheaters? Lol.
Rust.
That was fast 😭😂. Although I thought Rust did that because of low (percentage) numbers of Linux players.
hardpenguin Feb 26
Quoting: psycho_driverMy daughters were both addicted to Roblox when they initially released their AC and I refused to set up anything windows based in my home so they had to go cold turkey. They've been able to play again since September or so but the old one seems mostly weened off and the younger one isn't as susceptible to hardcore addiction as the older, so she'll be fine. Adios, Roblox.
I think the Android version in an emulator on Linux host is still a working workaround (might require a lot of extra steps).
Liam Dawe Feb 26
Quoting: hardpenguin
Quoting: Liam Dawe
Quoting: hardpenguin(..)
Do we know an example of a game with a native build & official anti-cheat support (BattlEye, EAC) that has dropped Linux support because of cheaters? Lol.
Rust.
That was fast 😭😂. Although I thought Rust did that because of low (percentage) numbers of Linux players.
I suggest reading their previous statement on it.
Pengling Feb 26
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Quoting: psycho_driverMy daughters were both addicted to Roblox when they initially released their AC and I refused to set up anything windows based in my home so they had to go cold turkey. They've been able to play again since September or so but the old one seems mostly weened off and the younger one isn't as susceptible to hardcore addiction as the older, so she'll be fine. Adios, Roblox.
Hopefully they were unaffected by the many problems affecting it!

Roblox Has a "Cannibal Cult"...
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Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper.
A 12-Year-Old Sued Roblox and WON

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