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Ubuntu 21.10 Beta is one of the final steps before the next release of this very popular Linux distribution. It's time to get testing and reporting issues to ensure it's a good one.

One of the big highlight changes is the upgrade to GNOME 40, with all the design changes there like the new Activities Overview, workspaces are arranged horizontally and the overview and app grid are accessed vertically. With a little Ubuntu flavour of course thanks to Canonical continuing to include a dock on the left side of the screen.

They've also enabled Wayland support with NVIDIA drivers, PulseAudio upgrades with support for bluetooth LDAC and AptX bluetooth and HFP profiles, upgrades to lots of the main applications like Firefox 92, LibreOffice 7.2.1 and Thunderbird 91.1.1. Click to enlarge the below pictures:

An interesting change and one that will likely cause a stir is that Firefox has moved to a Snap package, instead of the usual deb packaging. This is a joint effort between Mozilla and Canonical, while the deb package is still available so users of it will still get updated. You will only be affected if you've done an install of Ubuntu 21.10 or later. Explaining why in a post a few notes were pointed out:

  • Cross-platform support: The snap will run on all distributions that run snapd - now and in the future
  • Authenticity: You’re getting Firefox, unadulterated, straight from the source
  • Effortless updates: Get security updates from Mozilla, fast
  • Less time on maintenance, more time for features: Community developers can focus on innovation, instead of being mired in support

Currently it's using Mesa 21.2.1 and Kernel 5.13.

If you do decide to install it, worry not about how to get the final release. All you will need to do is keep updating the system to get the latest.

You can download here. See their currently unfinished release notes. The full release is scheduled for October 14. Since this is not a Long-Term Support release it will have support end in July 2022. The next LTS release will be Ubuntu 22.04 scheduled to release April 21, 2022.

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Ubuntu will get a lot of hate for the switch to snap for Firefox even though this is driven by Mozilla and a lot of the arguments used against it just aren't true anymore. Frankly I think it this move makes perfect sense and I would wager that the vast majority of users won't even notice the change
Fester_Mudd 24 Sep
Quoting: LibertyPaulMUbuntu will get a lot of hate for the switch to snap for Firefox even though this is driven by Mozilla and a lot of the arguments used against it just aren't true anymore. Frankly I think it this move makes perfect sense and I would wager that the vast majority of users won't even notice the change

It does make perfect sense but you know haters will hate. They can use whatever they fish if they don't like what's being offered. Sadly they don't seem to get this in the midst of their negativity i suppose

I never had issues with snaps nor flatpaks!!
sudoer 24 Sep
The quote below is enough for one to say "No thanks" :D
Not that it would be the only reason, there are already many to list, starting with the... distro's name...

QuoteMigrating the single most critical pieces of software on an Ubuntu install to a package format regularly criticised as slow and buggy is a brave move.

So hey: kudos for that.

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/09/ubuntu-makes-firefox-snap-default


Last edited by sudoer on 24 September 2021 at 9:02 am UTC
bashing snaps has now officially gotten old.
Tuxee 24 Sep
Quoting: LibertyPaulMUbuntu will get a lot of hate for the switch to snap for Firefox even though this is driven by Mozilla and a lot of the arguments used against it just aren't true anymore. Frankly I think it this move makes perfect sense and I would wager that the vast majority of users won't even notice the change

I'd say the major problem I encountered are slow first starts of applications. BUT: this seems more an issue of the packaged application and not Snap per se. Blender as snap starts pretty much instantly. Chrome was once utterly atrocious, now I have a two or three seconds overhead. The Zoom client is about the same. Jetbrains IDEs went from "quite acceptable" to total garbage (we are talking about 1 minute or more startup time on an SSD system - starting it from their own launcher takes a mere seconds). Subsequent starts were/are always fast.

As far as "resource hunger" goes: Both memory footprint and mass storage usage hardly make a difference (if packaged properly).
PHPStorm will eat up <500MB as (compressed) snap package and 1.4GB as (uncompressed) binaries.


Last edited by Tuxee on 24 September 2021 at 10:02 am UTC
Quoting: sudoerThe quote below is enough for one to say "No thanks" :D
Not that it would be the only reason, there are already many to list, starting with the... distro's name...

QuoteMigrating the single most critical pieces of software on an Ubuntu install to a package format regularly criticised as slow and buggy is a brave move.

So hey: kudos for that.

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/09/ubuntu-makes-firefox-snap-default

That is one of the outdated criticisms I referred to. The snap might me a little bit slower to open the first time you do so but after that you wouldn't notice a difference. ( I have the Firefox snap installed right now).

I use the Foobar snap which is a WINE wrapped packaging of a Windows only application and you really wouldn't know it was a snap.
Geppeto35 24 Sep
Quoting: dziadulewiczbashing snaps has now officially gotten old.

old as the last week... sooooooooooo old.

snap & flat are unusable on my (4 years old) laptop: slow as snails, kilotons of memory needed, bugs/freezing etc.

But yeah, on my 4k€ gear at work, no trouble...
after, you can spam the discussion with your good feelings, saying that's not snap. But whatever, if snap allows bad utilizations, thus it means it is rotten by design.

Will try again in one month on my laptop. With the truly hope to change my mind on snap

edit:
by reading a bit, you find these gems:
Quote(17 September 2021) Ubuntu removed a couple of Snap apps it loaded by default due to their (comparatively) poor performance and quirky behaviour to repo versions.
Quotenice discussion
Jorge Castro @castrojo 25 juil. 2021: It just took _10 full seconds_ for 1password to launch on my desktop, in case you were wondering if Canonical is working on performance for snapd.

Alan Pope @popey 25 juil. 2021: They get ignored or dismissed. The CTO flat doesn't believe there's a problem. The team is understanffed and there is no motivation from IoT and enterprise focused people to fix desktop problems. Been trying from the inside for *years*. I gave up hope and left.
but it is soooooo old bashing snap
ok


Last edited by Geppeto35 on 24 September 2021 at 12:25 pm UTC
i will install that beta iso on a vm,then i will remove that snap and install .deb firefox to show my disapproval of forcing snap to their users.

i heard snaps are propreitary. is that true? if this is true then it sucks even more.

brave move by canonical indeed but my fear is that since mostly linux newbies use ubuntu and when they notice the long startup time of firefox they will think bad about it which i suspect can cause unwanted decrease in firefox market share.

edit:grammatical error.


Last edited by trackmasters39181 on 24 September 2021 at 2:59 pm UTC
Tuxee 24 Sep
Quoting: trackmasters39181i heard snaps are propreitary. is that true?

No. They are not. The Snap Store is not Open Source.
If you want to check the rest of the code:

https://github.com/snapcore

Edit: Naturally you can bundle proprietary software as snaps - which is probably their prime use case.
Edit 2: It seems as if Mozilla preferred the packaging as snap.


Last edited by Tuxee on 24 September 2021 at 3:27 pm UTC
Well, I'd whine about this. But Firefox seems to be rotting to death anyway. It's a pity, because fundamentally I like Firefox better. I like how its UI behaves more than I like Chrome, especially around how it handles going full screen, so if both were equally functional I'd stick to Firefox. But I've been forced more and more to switch to Chrome (or rather, at home at least, Chromium) because I hit more and more websites Firefox just doesn't manage to load, or can't show article comments, or stuff. It's like I'm constantly having to copy the url and paste it into Chrome. So at the rate things are going it may not matter how it's packaged.

Not like I use Ubuntu, or snaps, so it's not really my business anyway I suppose.
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