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For those looking at their next upgrade, both AMD and Intel have made announcements recently and there's a lot of big stuff coming.

On the AMD side, they've officially announce the starting line-up of the Zen 2 core units that make up the Ryzen 3 series processors. To go along with this will be the new X570 chipset for the AM4 socket which supports PCIe 4.0. Here's the specs they've given out:

  • Ryzen™ 9 3900X - 12 cores/24 threads, 105W TDP, 3.8ghz base/4.6ghz boost, price around $499
  • Ryzen™ 7 3800X - 8 cores/16 threads, 105W TDP, 3.9ghz base/4.5ghz boost, price around $399
  • Ryzen™ 7 3700X - 8 cores/16 threads, 65W TDP, 3.6ghz base/4.4ghz boost, price around $329
  • Ryzen™ 5 3600X - 6 cores/12 threads, 95W TDP, 3.8ghz base/4.4ghz boost, price around $249
  • Ryzen™ 5 3600 - 6 cores/12 threads, 65W TDP, 3.6ghz base/4.2ghz boost, price around $199

All of which are expected to release on July 7th, so we're seeing 7nm on 7/7 which is mildly amusing.

They've also announced their new 7nm GPU architecture "RDNA" to replace GCN, with a claim of up to "1.25x" better performance-per-clock and "1.5x" higher performance-per-watt over GCN. RDNA is what will be powering their new AMD Radeon RX 5700-series graphics cards and they've said these new graphics cards will also be available in July.

You can find the full AMD summary here.

On the Intel front, they also had something to tease recently although nothing as major yet since they haven't done their keynote (which is tomorrow). Intel teased the 9th Gen Intel Core i9-9900KS, a "special edition" processor with 8 cores all running at 5.0 GHz while in turbo with a base of 4GHz. They said it will be shipping this year too.

You can see Intel's summary here.

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Shmerl 27 May 2019 at 4:07 pm UTC
That Ryzen 9 with 12 cores is a beast - it has the same TDP as Ryzen 7 2700X. And I'm looking forward to getting a Navi card to use with 2.5K Freesync monitor. Hopefully they won't be plagued by sketchy availability and crazy prices like Vega cards were.

Last edited by Shmerl on 27 May 2019 at 4:08 pm UTC
Shmerl 27 May 2019 at 4:10 pm UTC
finaldestam also waiting to see if X570 has any benefits over X370.

I'm in same situation here, and it looks like one of the possible benefits is support for PCIe 4. Since Navi will use it, it's likely we'll need new motherboards to run it a full performance.
RTheren 27 May 2019 at 5:39 pm UTC
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Where is the 16-core AMD CPU? The supposed 3850X?
Shmerl 27 May 2019 at 5:41 pm UTC
RTherenWhere is the 16-core AMD CPU? The supposed 3850X?

They didn't announce it yet. And if 12 core one is hitting 105W TDP, 16 core one will for sure be higher. I'll go for 12 cores probably, since I don't feel like increasing the TDP of my current build.

Would be also interesting to see, how TDP of Navi cards compare to Vega.

Last edited by Shmerl on 27 May 2019 at 5:42 pm UTC
Phlebiac 27 May 2019 at 8:36 pm UTC
chancho_zombieHopefully with Zen 2 I can turn all kernel CPU mitigations off.

If it's not affected, I'm sure the kernel code won't apply the mitigations. Most of them get skipped for AMD CPUs already.
14 4 years 28 May 2019 at 12:34 am UTC
I have the 2700X, and that 3700X is almost tempting to reduce power. But I'm not going to go through the hassle to swap it out.

The new GPU's are more interesting for my system, although it would just be a luxury to upgrade. My 580 is doing great.

Last edited by 14 on 28 May 2019 at 12:35 am UTC
crt0mega 28 May 2019 at 11:24 am UTC
ShmerlWould be also interesting to see, how TDP of Navi cards compare to Vega.
I second that. I like my Vega, but a (significant) lower TDP at a comparable or better performance level would be great. Some "saved" TDP there could turn the scale CPU-wise for me, too.
Comandante Ñoñardo 28 May 2019 at 2:07 pm UTC
fabertaweMy current CPU (i7-4790k) is the first Intel CPU I ever bought. If I'd known what was coming I'd have stuck with AMD. I can guarantee my next one will be an AMD.

I have the same CPU.. Old, but powerful for gaming.

I am not a fanboy of this or that brand, but I look certain features like a good CPU lock mechanism.
The CPU lock mechanism off the 115X socket is more efficient and safe than the CPU lock mechanism of the AMx socket..
jarhead_h 28 May 2019 at 10:29 pm UTC
I have been on AMD since socket 939 purely out of money problems and am still using a PhenomII as my main rig. I was already committed to a new Ryzen build this year no matter what. I wasn't expecting AMD to go for Intel's throat but there it is, and I must admit that it's making me smile. I'm gonna find a way to afford that Ryzen 9 chip with an ASUS Crosshair 570.

Three straight NVIDIA xx60 series gpus. This Navi looks interesting. For end of year along with that ~$350 LG Qdot 1440P 144hz monitor. CPU+MOBO+DDR4+PCI4-NVME+PSU this summer. 4K maybe next year or year after once we get a 43in 4K 120hz HDR 4:4:4 with either HDMI2.1 or the new display port that isn't finalized yet. I want to go 4K for movies because I don't have a stand alone TV, my desktop is my TV, game system, stereo, movie player - all of it. It's even my main system for 3d printing right now.

So far Gigabyte and Corsair both have announced PCIE4.0 NVME drives. Samsung and the others can't be far behind.

Last edited by jarhead_h on 28 May 2019 at 10:31 pm UTC
Dedale 7 July 2019 at 2:36 pm UTC
Well, the NDA is over; I have read a lot of noise but this article sums it up:

QuoteThe question on your mind will now be: "do I lose anything by the way of performance or overclocking headroom?" We pulled out an MSI X470 Gaming M7 to find out just that. We are happy to report that you don't lose any performance. When averaged across our test-suite that includes 28 tests in a variety of CPU benchmarks that are a mix of real-world and synthetics, we find that the X470 platform is negligibly (0.18%) faster for the 3700X and 0.15% slower for the 3900X. The individual tests that post performance gains for the X470 run around 2-3% faster. The ones that don't are a little over 3% slower.

QuoteThe second aspect of your buying decision will be overclocking headroom. AMD revised the CPU VRM and memory wiring specification for its X570 platform to increase CPU and memory overclocking headroom. We managed to get the 3700X to work at 4.225 GHz at 1.28 V, and the 3900X up to 4.00 GHz. We achieved the same 4.255 GHz and 4.00 GHz on the ASRock X570 Taichi for the two chips, respectively.

Besides, tests with the expensive X570 cards have been done and it seem the Fan of Doom is indeed running quite often and what's worse, is noisy. I already read the complaints of people struggling to find the desired X470 cards. Reminder: they need a BIOS upgrade to be able to accept Ryzen 3XXX and some cannot do it without a CPU.
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