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QuoteJoin AMD on December 13th for New Horizon, where the public will experience “Zen” in action for the first time, alongside Geoff Keighley and Evil Geniuses legend PPD. New Horizon will also feature Radeon GPUs in several demos.
Sign up for the Red Team to learn more about New Horizon and watch the New Horizon livestream here for an exclusive preview of “Zen”. We hope you tune in.
This is exciting, hopefully they don't have any sudden issues. I am really hoping Zen is close to what they have been hyping recently.
This will be the first time the public gets to actually use a Zen chip, so it will be interesting. They will be letting "eSports & Evil Geniuses legend PPD" put it through its paces, I'm not going to pretend I know who that is, should I know? Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Quoting: Alm888Quoting: niarbehtOne of the few upsides to integrated GPUs is they usually come with hardware encoders/decoders.
That's not true. Dedicated GPUs are also equipped with hardware encoders/decoders (VDPAU for decoding and HVENC for encoding in the nVidia's case).
Quoting: niarbehtThey're also a nice, handy backup for when everything decides to break on you.
A really unneeded backup for our money. And in place of more CPU cores which could be put to use, like, in 3D rendering or CFD. Integrated GPU's are garbage for high-perfomance solutions and sholud be only used in "typewriter-PC" machines for text processors as sole video cards.
Unneeded backup for our money? And exactly how much of the price jump for Intel CPUs in the past decade came about because of their iGPU? I'll give you a hint, almost all of their price jump has been from a lack of proper competition in the marketplace. The presence of an iGPU doesn't tack much on to the price, but the benefit is a permanent backup in case of any number of issues that can arise with discrete GPUs.
Also, as much as NVENC and AMF aren't supposed to cause any sort of extra load on the GPU while encoding, I've had performance issues in the past based on using them. Offloading encoding to the iGPU instead allowed me to keep all of my performance in those instances, at the cost of the stream looking slightly worse. But hey, that's life.
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Quoting: badberSorry, I meant until they remove their non-free microcode.Quoting: nifkerWon't buy a new x86-CPU until they remove their microcode.
Why exactly? CPUs have had microcode basically forever and you've been able to upload new revisions for a long, long time.
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Quoting: nifkerQuoting: badberSorry, I meant until they remove their non-free microcode.Quoting: nifkerWon't buy a new x86-CPU until they remove their microcode.
Why exactly? CPUs have had microcode basically forever and you've been able to upload new revisions for a long, long time.
What CPUs with free microcode are you using then?
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Quoting: badberfor my free system I have an older AMD CPU from 2008 and I have a NanoPi M1 too.Quoting: nifkerQuoting: badberSorry, I meant until they remove their non-free microcode.Quoting: nifkerWon't buy a new x86-CPU until they remove their microcode.
Why exactly? CPUs have had microcode basically forever and you've been able to upload new revisions for a long, long time.
What CPUs with free microcode are you using then?
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Quoting: nifkerQuoting: badberfor my free system I have an older AMD CPU from 2008 and I have a NanoPi M1 too.Quoting: nifkerQuoting: badberSorry, I meant until they remove their non-free microcode.Quoting: nifkerWon't buy a new x86-CPU until they remove their microcode.
Why exactly? CPUs have had microcode basically forever and you've been able to upload new revisions for a long, long time.
What CPUs with free microcode are you using then?
You do realize the AMD chip probably has built-in microcode, but just has no method of updating it, right?
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Quoting: nifkerQuoting: badberfor my free system I have an older AMD CPU from 2008 and I have a NanoPi M1 too.Quoting: nifkerQuoting: badberSorry, I meant until they remove their non-free microcode.Quoting: nifkerWon't buy a new x86-CPU until they remove their microcode.
Why exactly? CPUs have had microcode basically forever and you've been able to upload new revisions for a long, long time.
What CPUs with free microcode are you using then?
Both of those processors probably have microcode. Also, seems to me like AMD has supported updating the microcode at least from 1999: https://www.dcddcc.com/docs/2014_paper_microcode.pdf
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Quoting: badberQuoting: nifkerQuoting: badberfor my free system I have an older AMD CPU from 2008 and I have a NanoPi M1 too.Quoting: nifkerQuoting: badberSorry, I meant until they remove their non-free microcode.Quoting: nifkerWon't buy a new x86-CPU until they remove their microcode.
Why exactly? CPUs have had microcode basically forever and you've been able to upload new revisions for a long, long time.
What CPUs with free microcode are you using then?
Both of those processors probably have microcode. Also, seems to me like AMD has supported updating the microcode at least from 1999: https://www.dcddcc.com/docs/2014_paper_microcode.pdf
As a sidenote, wasn't the floating-point calculation problem that Pentiums had (y'know, those 90's-era CPUs) caused, and fixed, by microcode?
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Quoting: niarbehtQuoting: badberQuoting: nifkerQuoting: badberfor my free system I have an older AMD CPU from 2008 and I have a NanoPi M1 too.Quoting: nifkerQuoting: badberSorry, I meant until they remove their non-free microcode.Quoting: nifkerWon't buy a new x86-CPU until they remove their microcode.
Why exactly? CPUs have had microcode basically forever and you've been able to upload new revisions for a long, long time.
What CPUs with free microcode are you using then?
Both of those processors probably have microcode. Also, seems to me like AMD has supported updating the microcode at least from 1999: https://www.dcddcc.com/docs/2014_paper_microcode.pdf
As a sidenote, wasn't the floating-point calculation problem that Pentiums had (y'know, those 90's-era CPUs) caused, and fixed, by microcode?
Seems like the FDIV bug wouldn't have been fixable with just updateable microcode according to this: https://www.ele.uva.es/~jesman/BigSeti/ftp/Cajon_Desastre/MPR/111204.pdf
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