BATTLETECH gets an opt-in Linux beta on Steam

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drmothThere goes that entitlement again. Seriously, go play on Windows if that's your attitude, and I'm referring to all the complainers in this thread.

Yes they broke a promise they made during Kickstarter. Game development is hugely complicated and doesn't always turn out as expected. Very often there are delays. (...)

So, let me see if I understand... If you pay in advance someone that promises something and they don't fulfill the promise, you should not complain? You are wrongly "entitled" to expect that promise to be true? Did I understand your point correctly? Colombo just said you don't know what entitlement means, and I guess I agree with him.

And stop saying you don't mind about the delay, because it's not about you. For every potential linux buyer not minding about the delay, there will be n others that do, and the linux sales will go down whether they are "wrongly entitled" or not. Can at least the complaint about how stupid this is as a commercial strategy be made? Because we want the company to succeed with Linux, but for that they will have to do much better.

Kickstarter is an investment that carries severe risk. Unless you can prove they knowingly engaged in deception, you're on pretty thin ice legally. I'd be surprised if they honored a refund.

The gender diversity crap from one of their devs however is a valid argument for me. It's going to take a while to shake that and their _horrid_ launch stream on Twitch. It's one of the reasons I've avoided a lot of games and a hard lesson I hope other companies take note of.

As for Linux gaming in general, BS. Windows users would scream too if a game company lied, and much louder. There are hard core linux players who would beta test for companies too, but we're not slaves. This is something companies need to understand.

tl;dr - there are a lot of things that go into the success or failure of a title regardless of OS. You can spend millions on marketing hype and STILL have your game fade out in a week or you can focus on the long game.

devnullThe gender diversity crap from one of their devs however is a valid argument for me. It's going to take a while to shake that and their _horrid_ launch stream on Twitch. It's one of the reasons I've avoided a lot of games and a hard lesson I hope other companies take note of.

Well, I will buy this game because someone brought up such crap about it on GoL and will thus avoid it.

So here's the thing with promises. If they say "A Linux version will come." that's one thing, if they say "A Linux version will be released the same day as all other versions" then it is something different. Not sure what they did here, but the developers have delayed their releases for Linux for every game they've done so far, so not sure why someone would think that would have changed. Though to be fair, Paradox has a great track record for same day releases, and they were the publishers for this one.

I'm still waiting for Tower 57. Even the AmigaOS version was released before the Linux version...

nitroflow

SchattenspiegelHmm...menu and intro videos and character creation play nicely but I am stuck on the prepping for battle screen in the native beta :-(
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Have you tried adding LC_ALL=C %command% to the launch options? Fixed all the issues I had.

Hey, you saved my weekend! That was indeed the solution.

QuoteSo, let me see if I understand... If you pay in advance someone that promises something and they don't fulfill the promise, you should not complain? You are wrongly "entitled" to expect that promise to be true? Did I understand your point correctly?

You are acting like the 95%. You're not. Welcome to Kickstarter on Linux. What you say is logical, but in practice its meaningless. I hope one day that changes.

QuoteColombo just said you don't know what entitlement means, and I guess I agree with him.

Colombo didn't really say anything at all. So who knows what they really mean? There's not much to analyse in that sentence other than Colombo disagrees with me (without providing a reason why).

QuoteAnd stop saying you don't mind about the delay, because it's not about you. For every potential linux buyer not minding about the delay, there will be n others that do, and the linux sales will go down whether they are "wrongly entitled" or not. Can at least the complaint about how stupid this is as a commercial strategy be made? Because we want the company to succeed with Linux, but for that they will have to do much better.

I understand not everybody has patience. What I'm saying is the devs don't do this on purpose, like you suggest. So how can their decision be "stupid" when probably they would rather not deprioritise Linux, they would rather release on time? But they can't, for technical and timeline reasons that we are not privy to, and they prioritise Windows instead, like every other developer out there.

QuoteColombo didn't really say anything at all. So who knows what they really mean? There's not much to analyse in that sentence other than Colombo disagrees with me (without providing a reason why).

So Colombo didn't say anything? And no one knows what it means? But Colombo must have said something, and something meaningful, when you interpreted the meaning as disagreement with you.

Given that there wasn't much to analyse, you made quite interesting analysis of my sentence.

Sadly without getting the simple meaning right in the first sense.

Dude, you should stop babbling.

Colombo

QuoteColombo didn't really say anything at all. So who knows what they really mean? There's not much to analyse in that sentence other than Colombo disagrees with me (without providing a reason why).

So Colombo didn't say anything? And no one knows what it means? But Colombo must have said something, and something meaningful, when you interpreted the meaning as disagreement with you.

Given that there wasn't much to analyse, you made quite interesting analysis of my sentence.

Sadly without getting the simple meaning right in the first sense.

Dude, you should stop babbling.

drmoth has a point IMO. I don't see that this particularly clarifies anything, either. You may be right, drmoth may be wrong, but drmoth is making arguments while you're just assuming your correctness, so it's hard for me to tell what backs the assumption up.

Wow I just played the linux version of this game and it is so much faster than windows. HBS have done a really good job with this port. I doubted them for a while but in my eyes they have brought out a version that is superior to the windows one in every way. I'm looking forwards to more of their games.

nattydreadWow I just played the linux version of this game and it is so much faster than windows. HBS have done a really good job with this port. I doubted them for a while but in my eyes they have brought out a version that is superior to the windows one in every way. I'm looking forwards to more of their games.

Interesting, faster how? I should play it some more, but wanted to try mods in GTA 5 (I mean who doesn't want to roam the streets as Predator, or Thanos, or Doctor Strange...)

It just feels snappier on linux, the graphics are updated faster. Windows had slowdowns and general glitches.
Even the menus between campaigns feel faster. This was tested on the same hardware.
I was expecting it to be the other way around!