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It seems Canonical have done a bit of a U-turn on dropping 32bit support for Ubuntu, as many expected they would do. Their official statement is now out for those interested.

The most important part to be aware of is their new plan:

Thanks to the huge amount of feedback this weekend from gamers, Ubuntu Studio, and the WINE community, we will change our plan and build selected 32-bit i386 packages for Ubuntu 19.10 and 20.04 LTS.

We will put in place a community process to determine which 32-bit packages are needed to support legacy software, and can add to that list post-release if we miss something that is needed.

That's not the end of it though of course, eventually 32bit will be dropped which is inevitable really. Just not fully this time. Touching on this, they said in the post about using "container technology" to address "the ultimate end of life of 32-bit libraries" so hopefully by that time everything they need will be in place to make it super easy for users.

I'm glad Canonical have seen some sense on this, they clearly didn't communicate it well enough to begin with but they at least understand when they've made a big mistake like this and owning up to failures is part of what builds trust, so I'm happier now. Next time this happens, I just hope they give a very clear roadmap giving everyone proper time to prepare, which they didn't this time.

Their full statement is here. It will be interesting to see how Valve react, after announcing an end of Ubuntu support for Steam for Ubuntu 19.10 onwards.

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Patola 24 June 2019 at 5:19 pm UTC
Not good enough, methinks. Specially if they keep that intention. 32-bit mode will not go away, the need to run old proprietary apps and games and even drivers will not vanish. They do not control the application ecosystem, it's not their take to "select" which applications are "worthy" and which are not, even if with community feedback.

Sorry, Canonical, it's time to part ways. You've been too arrogant. Bye.


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jasonm 24 June 2019 at 5:22 pm UTC
PatolaNot good enough, methinks. Specially if they keep that intention. 32-bit mode will not go away, the need to run old proprietary apps and games and even drivers will not vanish.

Sorry, Canonical, it's time to part ways. You've been too arrogant. Bye.

I have no idea how you formed this opinion of Canonical. I can see why they want to remove 32 bit libs because it's a ton of work. They obviously didn't think it through, figured out the impact and are trying to rectify it. What else do you want them to do that they are not doing?


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Expalphalog 24 June 2019 at 5:25 pm UTC
I have been following this story without understanding anything that is going on. I'm a part of the new breed of Linux user who has come in only now that distros are becoming incredibly easy to use. Do I need to start looking at switching away from Mint?
jasonm 24 June 2019 at 5:26 pm UTC
ExpalphalogI have been following this story without understanding anything that is going on. I'm a part of the new breed of Linux user who has come in only now that distros are becoming incredibly easy to use. Do I need to start looking at switching away from Mint?


Nope
Patola 24 June 2019 at 5:32 pm UTC
jasonmI have no idea how you formed this opinion of Canonical.

Slowly, during the years. I follow their mailing lists for more than a decade now. I've witnessed their transformation.

jasonmI can see why they want to remove 32 bit libs because it's a ton of work. They obviously didn't think it through, figured out the impact and are trying to rectify it. What else do you want them to do that they are not doing?

No, they are not trying to rectify it. They are trying to do damage control for that backwards decision. And they are clear in that they are still going to abandon 32 bits.

I can not trust a distro which will have an undetermined process to decide which apps are worthy or not to continue with 32-bit support. What if they drop support exactly for that application I need to use? So it's either all of them, or I'm out. So, I'm out.
jasonm 24 June 2019 at 5:36 pm UTC
Patola
jasonmI have no idea how you formed this opinion of Canonical.

Slowly, during the years. I follow their mailing lists for more than a decade now. I've witnessed their transformation.

jasonmI can see why they want to remove 32 bit libs because it's a ton of work. They obviously didn't think it through, figured out the impact and are trying to rectify it. What else do you want them to do that they are not doing?

No, they are not trying to rectify it. They are trying to do damage control for that backwards decision. And they are clear in that they are still going to abandon 32 bits.

I can not trust a distro which will have an undetermined process to decide which apps are worthy or not to continue with 32-bit support. What if they drop support exactly for that application I need to use? So it's either all of them, or I'm out. So, I'm out.
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That's fine, you can be out. Just how many 32 bit apps do you run on your machine? I run one, steam. I don't think I've run a 32 bit app other than steam for years. I can see why they want to remove support, I can also see why they still need support for their user base. They are doing damage control. Why can't doing damage control and trying to rectify the problem be the same? You act like they are over there rubbing their hands together while laughing evilly because they want to reduce the amount of work on their package team. Anyway, you can't please everyone, especially when those people are not in any way forgiving of a mistake.
danniello 24 June 2019 at 5:37 pm UTC
Good that Canonical changed their bad decision, but anyway - it means that "Linux desktop" situation is much worse than I thought

Sad, very sad situation. It is well known that Canonical is not serious company, but such absurd situation also harmed Valve reputation (at least from Linux enthusiasts perspective).

It is oblivious that Canonical took this decision without consultation with Valve. It means - there is no agreement between Canonical-Valve. No agreement at all!!! Valve set Ubuntu as "recommended distribution" for game developers and Linux users WITHOUT any serious agreement with Canonical to protect their investment!


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Eike 24 June 2019 at 5:38 pm UTC
Surprise, surprise! ;-)

It's all fine that they want to reach another solution some day. Just not this day.

BTW, what would have been the problem with Ubuntu Studio?
Patola 24 June 2019 at 5:38 pm UTC
ExpalphalogI have been following this story without understanding anything that is going on. I'm a part of the new breed of Linux user who has come in only now that distros are becoming incredibly easy to use. Do I need to start looking at switching away from Mint?
It's too soon to say anything about the future, but I don't think the Mint team has enough structure to "soft-fork" from Ubuntu enough to have their own 32-bit support. If they achieve it that would be nice, of course. But since Steam already announced they will stop supporting Ubuntu - and no, I for one don't think they will step back from that decision -, you'll have to trust Mint will maintain compatibility with whatever Steam decides to support in the future.
TobiSGD 24 June 2019 at 5:39 pm UTC
jasonmI can see why they want to remove 32 bit libs because it's a ton of work.
But a ton of work for whom? They still get the majority of their packages directly from Debian, throwing a patch on one or the other package and just compile. If Debian still supports newer versions of 32 bit libraries, how much work is there really to be done for canonical?
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