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I've just today been alerted to something that's quite worrying, according to Garry Newman from Facepunch Studios, Easy Anti-Cheat are "pausing" their Linux support.

As it turns out, Newman made this comment on Reddit on a submission that actually links back to my recent article about Rust. Newman said pretty clearly "The biggest issue as far as I can see is that EAC are pausing their Linux support, which is resulting in an increase in cheaters using the Linux version. This is a huge problem because it affects every other platform.".

This is the first I've heard of it and so it's quite alarming considering the amount of Linux games that actually use it like Rust, 7 Days to Die, Albion Online (which only recently started using it), Robocraft, Insurgency Sandstorm (which planned Linux support) and so on. Not just existing games but this will obviously cause major problems for any upcoming multiplayer game that was planning to support Linux if they were going to use EAC, as it might just cause them to drop Linux support.

Additionally, this could also cause even more problems for Valve's Steam Play although we don't know the full situation, they were supposed to be in talks to get Easy Anti-Cheat supported for it. This new information doesn't exactly give me confidence but perhaps Steam Play will be treated differently? Who knows.

Interestingly, Epic Games actually acquired the maker of Easy Anti-Cheat last year, so perhaps Linux is becoming a casualty of that? I'm not saying it is but it wouldn't surprise me.

I've reached out to Easy Anti-Cheat and Epic Games to find out what they have to say about it, if anything. Took EAC a while to reply last time and I don't expect an answer on a Sunday, so hold onto your hats. At least if it does turn out to be true, there's still VAC and BattlEye which do support Linux games as well as Steam Trust to come.

Frustratingly, this news also comes only recently after we found Vivox suggesting a developer drop Linux support. This makes me even more thankful that Valve are continuing to put resources into Linux, with things like Steam Play and funding developers across a multitude of other Linux-related projects and other open source software.

Hat tip to airspeedmph.

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bgh251f2 5 May 2019 at 5:56 pm UTC
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RosieCodecan i first of just say that nothing is confirmed, and that its FP that has said this and i cant say they have much in the way of credibility recently.
There no reason to think a game developer, one so well known, would lie about this.

while i would like to agree, i cant say with recent events i can trust anything they say. but i would rather have all the information available before i start jumping down the necks of people with pitchforks and torches
By now, I would hope people would have a little decorum and not get pitchforks out against people, as it doesn't help us.

mirv
liamdawe
RosieCodecan i first of just say that nothing is confirmed, and that its FP that has said this and i cant say they have much in the way of credibility recently.
There's no reason to think a game developer, one so well known, would lie about this.

All the same, please let us know if you hear anything more to confirm it. To be honest, considering the reputation of FP, I wondered if, while not a lie, it might have been something misinterpreted or exaggerated.

Frustrating that there's so little official word from the horse's mouth to make sure of where everything stands (a circumstance that's intentional, no doubt).
Of course, contacting EAC was the first thing I did and I will let everyone know if/when I get a reply.

So I should store my pitchfork? But I just sharpened and cleaned it for use.
callcifer 5 May 2019 at 5:57 pm UTC
It's really funny how everyone already grabbed their pitchforks against Epic despite the whole connection being limited to a single line of unsubstantiated, irresponsible speculation by Liam.

No wonder why some companies aren't willing to engage with such a level-headed, well-mannered crowd...
Liam Dawe 5 May 2019 at 6:06 pm UTC
callciferIt's really funny how everyone already grabbed their pitchforks against Epic despite the whole connection being limited to a single line of unsubstantiated, irresponsible speculation by Liam.

No wonder why some companies aren't willing to engage with such a level-headed, well-mannered crowd...
Ouch, sounds like I hit a nerve there. Don't blame me for others behaviour, that's ridiculous. As you said, it was a single line and I was very clearly speculating. Irresponsible? I will argue against that, considering Epic's recent behaviour and attitude towards Linux.


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jens 5 May 2019 at 6:07 pm UTC
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liamdaweBy now, I would hope people would have a little decorum and not get pitchforks out against people, as it doesn't help us.

I love your optimism ;). I'm not that sure people will remember "innocent until proven guilty". May be on this site, but I have my doubts about others...

PS: Thanks a lot for reaching out and trying to gather facts!
gradyvuckovic 5 May 2019 at 6:14 pm UTC
Stuff like this just increases the amount of appreciation I have for Valve sticking firmly in our corner and supporting us.
callcifer 5 May 2019 at 6:14 pm UTC
liamdaweDon't blame me for others behaviour, that's ridiculous. As you said, it was a single line and I was very clearly speculating. Irresponsible?
You deliberately fanned the flames despite having no evidence whatsoever, surely it's no surprise to you that people picked up on it?

liamdaweI will argue against that, considering Epic's recently behaviour and attitude towards Linux.
Seriously, what attitude towards Linux? I sure hope you are not talking about that one Canada tweet from years ago. It's no different than the people still linking to the Halloween documents whenever the word Microsoft shows up anywhere.

Epic today are even offering free money to Lutris via their grants program, which is a great thing, just ask the Lutris devs. The fact that Epic doesn't release a Linux version of their client right now is no surprise. They are trying to gain foothold against an incumbent giant and there is no business case for spending resources on what is maybe 1% of the market. If it was my company, I wouldn't do it either until way later, when I had sure footing in the market.

But hey, I only work in this industry, what do I know...
salamanderrake 5 May 2019 at 6:27 pm UTC
liamdawe
RosieCodecan i first of just say that nothing is confirmed, and that its FP that has said this and i cant say they have much in the way of credibility recently.
There's no reason to think a game developer, one so well known, would lie about this.

Epic does not support Linux builds of their editors, and they barely if ever support developers releasing Linux clients of games built with the editor.
mirv 5 May 2019 at 6:27 pm UTC
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callcifer
liamdaweDon't blame me for others behaviour, that's ridiculous. As you said, it was a single line and I was very clearly speculating. Irresponsible?
You deliberately fanned the flames despite having no evidence whatsoever, surely it's no surprise to you that people picked up on it?

liamdaweI will argue against that, considering Epic's recently behaviour and attitude towards Linux.
Seriously, what attitude towards Linux? I sure hope you are not talking about that one Canada tweet from years ago. It's no different than the people still linking to the Halloween documents whenever the word Microsoft shows up anywhere.

Epic today are even offering free money to Lutris via their grants program, which is a great thing, just ask the Lutris devs. The fact that Epic doesn't release a Linux version of their client right now is no surprise. They are trying to gain foothold against an incumbent giant and there is no business case for spending resources on what is maybe 1% of the market. If it was my company, I wouldn't do it either until way later, when I had sure footing in the market.

But hey, I only work in this industry, what do I know...

Respectfully, I don't think the news item was fanning flames - quite the opposite from the wording, in my opinion.

Epic have a pretty long-ish history of tossing GNU/Linux aside actually, starting with the debacle of UT3. From what I heard (I wasn't keeping an eye on commits) it was basically the community who made anything work with UnrealED for GNU/Linux, and Epic hasn't maintained support for it at all. It's hard to ignore so many people having trouble with the engine itself with GNU/Linux too. Add Sweeny's comments, lack of Epic Store, possibly this issue now with EAC, and it starts to build a picture.
Oh, and Epic can break anything at a moment's notice. Lutris working today does not mean Lutris working tomorrow. PR stunt is PR stunt, for spare change - and have Epic even actually given any money yet? All I knew was a mention that Lutris should apply for something, not that they had, or were granted anything.
salamanderrake 5 May 2019 at 6:28 pm UTC
RosieCodecan i first of just say that nothing is confirmed, and that its FP that has said this and i cant say they have much in the way of credibility recently.

liamdaweInterestingly, Epic Games actually acquired the maker of Easy Anti-Cheat last year, so perhaps Linux is becoming a casualty of that? I'm not saying it is but it wouldn't surprise me.
personally i feel that's a bit far fetched esp given that Epic do generally support linux builds of their editor etc if they was that anal about linux that would not be a thing in all honesty....

lunixMore reason to hate epic as a linux user? Hmmm, didn't expect that...
i would not jump to conclusions, nothing is set in stone

SparhawkCan't Epic Games just die somewhere lonely in a corner?
is this honestly called for.

i'm just going to leave it at, when everyone is sat bashing company's over things repeatedly no wonder they are not gunna be open to supporting this platform, no... they are gunna turn around and be like "no stuff those guys"

please, can people just not jump to conclusions wait for actual responses and not just hate on everything in existence i cant say it helps

Epic does not support their editor on Linux, and they barely support developers who want to port their games to Linux.
Liam Dawe 5 May 2019 at 6:28 pm UTC
callcifer
liamdaweDon't blame me for others behaviour, that's ridiculous. As you said, it was a single line and I was very clearly speculating. Irresponsible?
You deliberately fanned the flames despite having no evidence whatsoever, surely it's no surprise to you that people picked up on it?
You're misinterpreting my intentions. I did not deliberately try to stir anything up, stop acting like I am. It is interesting and on-point that Epic Games acquired them. Not long after, we now find this out. It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to say they're related, in fact I still think it's quite possible hence me mentioning it.

There's a difference between having an opinion, matching a few things up and mentioning it - to intentionally starting a witch hunt (something I absolutely don't want). However, I'm also not afraid to give my opinion on my own website.


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