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Update: Epic Games gave a response, it is not paused.

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I've just today been alerted to something that's quite worrying, according to Garry Newman from Facepunch Studios, Easy Anti-Cheat are "pausing" their Linux support.

As it turns out, Newman made this comment on Reddit on a submission that actually links back to my recent article about Rust. Newman said pretty clearly "The biggest issue as far as I can see is that EAC are pausing their Linux support, which is resulting in an increase in cheaters using the Linux version. This is a huge problem because it affects every other platform.".

This is the first I've heard of it and so it's quite alarming considering the amount of Linux games that actually use it like Rust, 7 Days to Die, Albion Online (which only recently started using it), Robocraft, Insurgency Sandstorm (which planned Linux support) and so on. Not just existing games but this will obviously cause major problems for any upcoming multiplayer game that was planning to support Linux if they were going to use EAC, as it might just cause them to drop Linux support.

Additionally, this could also cause even more problems for Valve's Steam Play although we don't know the full situation, they were supposed to be in talks to get Easy Anti-Cheat supported for it. This new information doesn't exactly give me confidence but perhaps Steam Play will be treated differently? Who knows.

Interestingly, Epic Games actually acquired the maker of Easy Anti-Cheat last year, so perhaps Linux is becoming a casualty of that? I'm not saying it is but it wouldn't surprise me.

I've reached out to Easy Anti-Cheat and Epic Games to find out what they have to say about it, if anything. Took EAC a while to reply last time and I don't expect an answer on a Sunday, so hold onto your hats. At least if it does turn out to be true, there's still VAC and BattlEye which do support Linux games as well as Steam Trust to come.

Frustratingly, this news also comes only recently after we found Vivox suggesting a developer drop Linux support. This makes me even more thankful that Valve are continuing to put resources into Linux, with things like Steam Play and funding developers across a multitude of other Linux-related projects and other open source software.

Hat tip to airspeedmph.

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callcifer 5 May 2019 at 11:42 pm UTC
mirvCan I ask that you calm down a little? Or, at least, use wording to give the effect of calming down a little. It appears to me that you're getting hyped up, and ironically grabbing a pitchfork at what others are saying.
Fair enough, I'll tone it down.

mirvit does look like whatever Epic gets involved in turns out bad for gaming on GNU/Linux.
I wonder, did you try playing any games on the Epic store? In my experience, it works pretty great. Both the store and the games. Well, only Satisfactory for me, but it works flawlessly.

mirvFor example, nobody was raising conspiracy theories - Epic is not out to destroy GNU/Linux, but neither is it lifting a finger to help the platform. That's not a conspiracy

Here's a link to the reddit thread of this exact article. That particular comment has 134 upvotes right now. I think that whole thread speaks for itself honestly.

mirvif you'd like to continue on something you mentioned: users who can no longer play a game because of lack of EAC, but who paid the same money as, say, Windows people (who can keep playing) - doesn't that strike you as a little unfair? While a refund I don't think is suitable, surely there's something you could suggest that a developer could do to make up for it, even in a token fashion.
No, it's not at all unfair to me. When you pay for a game, you buy it as-is. There is no guarantee, implied or otherwise, of future content or support. The only exception to this is what a company explicitly chooses to support, like Valve's playtime based refund program.


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mirv 5 May 2019 at 11:56 pm UTC
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mirvFor example, nobody was raising conspiracy theories - Epic is not out to destroy GNU/Linux, but neither is it lifting a finger to help the platform. That's not a conspiracy

Here's a link to the reddit thread of this exact article. That particular comment has 134 upvotes right now. I think that whole thread speaks for itself honestly.

mirvif you'd like to continue on something you mentioned: users who can no longer play a game because of lack of EAC, but who paid the same money as, say, Windows people (who can keep playing) - doesn't that strike you as a little unfair? While a refund I don't think is suitable, surely there's something you could suggest that a developer could do to make up for it, even in a token fashion.
No, it's not at all unfair to me. When you pay for a game, you buy it as-is. There is no guarantee, implied or otherwise, of future content or support. The only exception to this is what a company explicitly chooses to support, like Valve's playtime based refund program.

Well, I'll not be discussing reddit behaviour and trying to relate it people here on GOL, but I still fail to see how that thread "speaks for itself" regardless.

I think I will disagree with you on the point about fairness (or lack thereof). Particularly in the case of Rust, where what you bought "as is" can suddenly no longer be played (it's multiplayer and server based after all, so an update can quite easily stop the game being played through no choice of the customer). Additionally, screwing over some of the users (as I see it) is on the developer, and that kind of bad will can lead to poorer sales ultimately, even on the primary platform.
In the case of Rust, the dev has at least acknowledged that GNU/Linux users are pretty good and accepting. I should think continued communication, and some clarity about what is going on is the minimum (and sufficient) required token in this particular case. I find it slightly lacking still, but we'll see what comes out in the wash soon enough I suppose.

-- edit to a previous edit, sorry I'm a bit late in my reply! Uh, no, I've not tried anything from the Epic Store. I have GNU/Linux (heh). I presume you mean via Lutris. I cannot run Lutris (well "cannot" is a strong term - I choose not to because of a long list of dependencies that are more hassle than it's worth to install).


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x_wing 6 May 2019 at 12:34 am UTC
callciferMaybe you could reach out to some developers who decided against a Linux port and ask them - off the record - their impressions of the community. I bet it won't be sunshines and rainbows.

And you agree with that "impression"? Linux gamer community isn't different in anyway to Windows gamer community IMHO. In fact many of the claims you read in this thread against Epic are the same that you will read in a Windows gamer forum.

Unless you really believe that we give such impression, I think that you have a very childish argument if you think that making Linux gamers feel "ashamed" will change their opinion regarding Epic.
Zaxth 6 May 2019 at 1:12 am UTC
Someone took a page out of Microsofts book. Embrace Extend Extinguish.
And given the fact that Epic owns easy anti cheat, and their CEO's love for Microsoft Windows, it's not a big mystery whats going on.


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TheRiddick 6 May 2019 at 1:40 am UTC
Somehow loads of cheaters still seem to bypass these 'anti-cheat' systems. They seem to be questionable worth, probably better if Steam can make something that integrates into the games exe and can't be easily hacked (since it would detect memory injections). Hmmm.. sad.

Certainly feels like there is a cold war going on against Linux atm... And companies are trying to make games into a services where nobody owns anything and they can pull the cord at anytime, even kill software from existence... concerning.


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qptain Nemo 6 May 2019 at 1:58 am UTC
callciferI personally know multiple developers who decided against a Linux version of their games because they saw how the "community" behaved on other games.
callciferWhen Windows gamers get "heated" the developers don't have the luxury to stop supporting them. That's not the case for Linux. "I want to, but it's not worth the drama" is an exact phrase I've heard.
I don't know why you would bring that up. You cannot seriously expect everybody to respect this decision making. Because I absolutely do not respect it on any level. That is a terrible rationale for a bad decision.
Kimyrielle 6 May 2019 at 3:37 am UTC
Valve just could blacklist every game using their dumbass software from Steam. They'd go bankrupt within 5-10 mins. Which would be awesome. World needs less anti-cheat rootkits and more smart coding that doesn't need it.
Corben 6 May 2019 at 5:10 am UTC
Uh... when will we get some great news in the Linux gaming scene again?

With proton there was a giant leap taken, was it too big for everything to catch up?

Before proton, we got some great triple A titles here and there. We could handle it. Now the amount of announcements or releases of those titles have decreased. At least that's my feeling. And even worse, we hear lots of "news" that Linux support is dropped, will be dropped or "paused". Some of them caused by Epic and their exclusives, cutting us off even from titles that work with proton.

We can play now many single player titles, especially thanks to proton, more than we have time to play... but with more titles our demand also increases, especially for multiplayer titles. And most (big) games make the (big) money with multiplayer... but we are cut off... yeah, I have a bad feeling for Linux gaming in the near future. If we lose that little momentum we had, Linux gaming will stagnate, and stagnation means rip.

Sorry to sound that pessimistic, I'm just starting to worry more and more with all those negative news...
tonR 6 May 2019 at 5:49 am UTC
**Wear tinfoil hat**
Well, let's say something....
...something about AR. >> Why Epic Games called an open platform truce with Microsoft (Venture Beat)
**Take off tinfoil hat**

Honestly, I'm not affected at all, (apologies to GoL users who online gamers).
But I hope this shitty moves will make more developers to build more LAN and split-screen option games for PC in general and especially for Linux gamers.
jasondaigo 6 May 2019 at 6:03 am UTC
then dont do eac for us and give us one lonely linux server :-)
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