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Here's something interesting, Epic Games are launching their Epic Online Services and it will support Linux as well as multiple different game engines.

Building upon the work they've done with Fortnite, it's going to offer support for: Parties, an in-game Overlay, Matchmaking, Player reports, Achievements, leaderboards, stats and so on. Don't get too excited though, as right now it's only offering Game analytics (telemetry about players) and a support ticket system with everything else "Coming soon".

On the official page that's now live, it shows the happy little Linux "tux" logo and in the FAQ at the bottom it clearly states it too:

Epic Online Services will initially come with built-in support for Windows, Mac, and Linux. PlayStation, Xbox, Android, Switch, and iOS support will be added in the coming months.

Regardless of your feelings towards Epic Games and their current exclusive deal strategy, it's still essential that services like this support Linux. Lots of developers use the Unreal Engine which they will no doubt push for developers to use this, also since it will support Unity, other games engines and other stores (So Steam is fine too) if even more developers use it then we don't want another barrier for Linux game development.

As for the Epic Store itself, don't get excited about that either, it's still not even on their (now public) roadmap.

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Mountain Man 22 March 2019 at 7:53 pm UTC
KimyrielleCompanies that base their business strategy around taking away consumer choice end up on my shit-list pretty quickly, no matter if they support Linux or not (not that they would).
The other problem is the sketchy way Epic is doing business. They're cutting backroom deals and offering big sums of money to publishers in order to secure an exclusive contract while the developers get the shaft. You see, the publishers don't care if a game sells fewer copies being an Epic Store exclusive because they have their money upfront. It's the developers who's paychecks depend on number of units sold who get screwed.
einherjar 22 March 2019 at 8:26 pm UTC
So I think now we know wich other "open plattform" Sweeney meant.
It is stadia - no way it is Linux...
14 22 March 2019 at 9:36 pm UTC
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crt0megaI'd rather have Origin () on Linux than this.

they are working on an linux engine
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/eas-experimental-halcyon-game-engine-has-vulkan-and-linux-support.12840
now we know it is surely for stadia, but maybe even origin comes to linux one day


CorbenWell, regarding to Sergey Galyonkin's tweet, they are looking for Linux engineers. In that thread it's about getting Pheonix Point to run on Linux... via proton or wine or whatever.

i think Phoenix Point is the perfect game for stadia. latency isnt that important
Man. Phoenix Point is actually a game that would make me wonder if I should give in and play it via Stadia (if it became possible). I'd probably hold out and not get it during an exclusive period. Hard to say.
etonbears 23 March 2019 at 12:00 am UTC
I would guess that all the weirdness of the past year like new online game-stores popping up and offering supply-side inducements, Microsoft embarking on a shopping spree for studios, and now Google announcing Stadia, are the dance of a major re-alignment in gaming.

A major upheaval has been predicted for a long time, these are probably just the first indications that it is arriving. I'm still not convinced how many people will want to jump to Games as a Service, or how practical it is yet, but the ball is rolling downhill now, so it is probably not going to stop.

We now have at least NVidia, Sony, Blade Shadow, Jump, and Google with known GaaS-like offerings, and rumours about Valve, Microsoft, Amazon, Walmart, EA, Apple, and Comcast. It's logical to assume that anyone with a strong existing subscriber or customer base in a relevant industry - i.e. Phones, Tablets, PCs, TVs, Cable service, Cellular Service, Landline Telephony service - is related to one of these potential gaming services, or is thinking of providing their own.

I know Tim Sweeney is put on the "naughty step" a lot lately over the practices used to promote Epic Games Store, and further back over taking investment from Tencent, but seen in the light of the potential alternatives lining up to enter the market, his decisions are more easily understood. The company he founded has survived when so many others have not, because he found ways to finance it's survival and navigate the threats.

I don't approve of Epic's behaviour, but I can see the threat of disruption in the industry, and I'm pretty sure there will be a lot more things to dislike, from all quarters, in the coming year or so.

Consoles may be under more threat in the short term than "Open" PC platforms, because the draw XBox and PS have for attracting developers to their big markets has the potential to evaporate under pressure to develop for more interesting and potentially profitable markets. I can also see a portion of the console players just not buy new consoles if services like Stadia provide a better experience at an acceptable cost.

I think the PC player base is probably less likely to shift to streaming in the short term, but I can see the Linux Native market actually being ignored more in terms of internally developed game releases in favour of the streaming services which are huge potential markets.

But I can also see that if you just want to be able to use your Linux PC to play games, are not riddled with FSF and EFF principles, have a good network connection and don't mind not "owning" games, that the choice available to you could become very wide. The biggest problem might be the number of streaming services you need to use if they start competing by buying studios and negotiating exclusive agreements.
NeptNutz 23 March 2019 at 1:23 am UTC
etonbearsI would guess that all the weirdness of the past year like new online game-stores popping up and offering supply-side inducements, Microsoft embarking on a shopping spree for studios, and now Google announcing Stadia, are the dance of a major re-alignment in gaming.

A major upheaval has been predicted for a long time, these are probably just the first indications that it is arriving. I'm still not convinced how many people will want to jump to Games as a Service, or how practical it is yet, but the ball is rolling downhill now, so it is probably not going to stop.

We now have at least NVidia, Sony, Blade Shadow, Jump, and Google with known GaaS-like offerings, and rumours about Valve, Microsoft, Amazon, Walmart, EA, Apple, and Comcast. It's logical to assume that anyone with a strong existing subscriber or customer base in a relevant industry - i.e. Phones, Tablets, PCs, TVs, Cable service, Cellular Service, Landline Telephony service - is related to one of these potential gaming services, or is thinking of providing their own.

I know Tim Sweeney is put on the "naughty step" a lot lately over the practices used to promote Epic Games Store, and further back over taking investment from Tencent, but seen in the light of the potential alternatives lining up to enter the market, his decisions are more easily understood. The company he founded has survived when so many others have not, because he found ways to finance it's survival and navigate the threats.

I don't approve of Epic's behaviour, but I can see the threat of disruption in the industry, and I'm pretty sure there will be a lot more things to dislike, from all quarters, in the coming year or so.

Consoles may be under more threat in the short term than "Open" PC platforms, because the draw XBox and PS have for attracting developers to their big markets has the potential to evaporate under pressure to develop for more interesting and potentially profitable markets. I can also see a portion of the console players just not buy new consoles if services like Stadia provide a better experience at an acceptable cost.

I think the PC player base is probably less likely to shift to streaming in the short term, but I can see the Linux Native market actually being ignored more in terms of internally developed game releases in favour of the streaming services which are huge potential markets.

But I can also see that if you just want to be able to use your Linux PC to play games, are not riddled with FSF and EFF principles, have a good network connection and don't mind not "owning" games, that the choice available to you could become very wide. The biggest problem might be the number of streaming services you need to use if they start competing by buying studios and negotiating exclusive agreements.
Well, as an alternative to arcade supremacy in the old days, consoles provided a valid (albeit shitty) cost-alternative substitute to constantly pumping quarters into a SEGA or Nintendo arcade machine. In those days, the profit analysis of game consoles was a win-win for both vendors and consumers. Sadly, middle-men arcade owners simply died.

PC at that time (while prohibitively expensive), was able to leverage computing assets (processing, storage, RAM, graphics) that consoles could never approach. (Witness Half-Life vs. Halo in their respective heydays.)

Over time, consoles have (almost) completely caught up to PC in all those facets of computing assets. {<--poet } (Exhibit 1 - God of War. Exhibit 2 - Marvel's Spider-Man.)

Enter Stadia (a.k.a. La Strada). Assuming their cloud "edge" is as edgy as they say, the exploitation of server-side computing assets might very well be the new era of a PC Master Race, much like it was in the PC vs. console days. Only now, the buy-in is simply a Chrome browser. So, make that the new Chromebook Master Race?
qptain Nemo 23 March 2019 at 3:14 am UTC
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MalAnd so, one day, they will buy third party games and release them exclusively on linux. And I will be forced to stand up for the windows junkies out there. This gaming world is so messed up.

if i had the fortnite money, i would totally do it

here you have metro.... but linux exclusive for 1 year
i brought you pc master race heavy rain.... but linux exclusive for 1 year
you like factorio... here you have it in 3D, called satisfactory.... but linux exclusive for 1 year
i heard you like RDR2, here we go.... but linux exclusive for 1 year

that would be so funny... 95% pc gamers pissed off, hackers start to build windows wrappers, to make it playable on windows

Windows users excited with a new version of "LINE" so they could test what Linux games are working on windows

Linux Is Next (Windows) Emulator.

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Like EA plans on Halcyon. I'm believed it when I see it for real.
Or LITE = LITE Is Totally an Emulator
mylka 23 March 2019 at 11:40 am UTC
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crt0megaI'd rather have Origin () on Linux than this.

they are working on an linux engine
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/eas-experimental-halcyon-game-engine-has-vulkan-and-linux-support.12840
now we know it is surely for stadia, but maybe even origin comes to linux one day


CorbenWell, regarding to Sergey Galyonkin's tweet, they are looking for Linux engineers. In that thread it's about getting Pheonix Point to run on Linux... via proton or wine or whatever.

i think Phoenix Point is the perfect game for stadia. latency isnt that important
Man. Phoenix Point is actually a game that would make me wonder if I should give in and play it via Stadia (if it became possible). I'd probably hold out and not get it during an exclusive period. Hard to say.

i dont know. they droped linux a few month ago, because it was too hard and now they are back on it because google came around?

and of course now they made it epic exclusive.
i like xcom games, but i rather play xcom again, or hard west, or Attack of the Earthlings, or battletech, or, mutant year zero, or even crookz.... than support this
14 23 March 2019 at 8:30 pm UTC
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crt0megaI'd rather have Origin () on Linux than this.

they are working on an linux engine
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/eas-experimental-halcyon-game-engine-has-vulkan-and-linux-support.12840
now we know it is surely for stadia, but maybe even origin comes to linux one day


CorbenWell, regarding to Sergey Galyonkin's tweet, they are looking for Linux engineers. In that thread it's about getting Pheonix Point to run on Linux... via proton or wine or whatever.

i think Phoenix Point is the perfect game for stadia. latency isnt that important
Man. Phoenix Point is actually a game that would make me wonder if I should give in and play it via Stadia (if it became possible). I'd probably hold out and not get it during an exclusive period. Hard to say.

i dont know. they droped linux a few month ago, because it was too hard and now they are back on it because google came around?

and of course now they made it epic exclusive.
i like xcom games, but i rather play xcom again, or hard west, or Attack of the Earthlings, or battletech, or, mutant year zero, or even crookz.... than support this
Yeah, I know. I'll even add more games to the list you started: Fell Seal, Warhammer 40,000: Mechanicus, even Wesnoth. And I do own both Xcom games and Battletech. I definitely don't need Phoenix Point.

The pricing model and usage policy of Stadia will probably have the biggest effect on whether I take a stance on principle... and how much more of the exclusivity garbage continues.


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Finalizer 24 March 2019 at 6:09 pm UTC
I don't trust epic games yet. This is only a start. Hopefully we'll see Linux support later in Epic games store.Liam is right. We shouldn't get too excited about this move. Linux support in epic store will happen after my neighbour's cows fly. That is belief
sneakeyboard 24 March 2019 at 8:33 pm UTC
All this talk skewed off topic...I'm more concerned with Epic's lack of focus on safety (account security/etc).


I'm sure the streaming service will be its own headline, so I'll just keep it short and say that this is the start of another market to be heavily influenced by giant corporations' greed.


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