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Google have confirmed the Stadia launch date is November 19

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Stadia, Google's new fancy Linux-powered game streaming service is officially set to launch on November 19, that is if you forked out for the expensive Stadia Founder's Edition.

In the blog post over on Google, written by John Justice the "Vice President of Product, Stadia", they mention that the Founder's Edition should start arriving on doorsteps on November 19. From then, you will be able to buy and play games beginning at 4PM UTC and it will work across devices right away (so you don't need to use that fancy Chromecast Ultra). As long as your Linux PC has a Chrome browser installed, it should work fine.

However, there's an important note included to say that they will be shipped out "in the same order that pre-orders were received". So if your country still had them available yesterday and you ordered, you're probably in for a wait. Justice said once your package ships, you will then get an email and sometime shortly after a code to activate it all.

As a reminder, while Stadia is a game streaming service it's not like Netflix since you do still need to buy the games just like you would on Steam or GOG. The "Pro" subscription at around £8.99 / $9.99 a month gives you 4K, surround sound, discounts and the occasional free game. The Base Stadia account is not a subscription but it's not free, since again you buy games.

We have a Stadia Founder's Edition ordered to cover here, so keep an eye out later next month to see what we think of it. Well, whenever our unit arrives anyway, we're probably way back in the queue due to when we confirmed our order.

Google also put out a quick overview video today too:

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There was a note in the video that you can only use the Stadia Controller in wireless mode with the Chromecast Ultra on a TV at launch, although wired mode and other gamepads/keyboard will work fine on PC.

Apart from the launch date and the note about shipping based on the order queue, no other info was given out. They also didn't mention if anyone can buy a Stadia Pro subscription then or if everyone else just has to wait until next year when Stadia rolls out fully.

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F.Ultra Oct 15, 2019
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Quoting: mylka
Quoting: Doc Angelo
Quoting: mylkaas far as i know stadia games dont even use vulkan for windows
i hope this will change soon, or stadia is very useless for linux gaming

Stadia doesn't run Windows on the game streaming servers. They run Debian Linux.

i know, but vulkan does and games like destiny 2 use dx on windows, even if they need vulkan on stadia

Of course it does, AAA games such as this have been in development for many years before Google even announced Stadia and there is just no way that a company like Bungie would change their entire engine from DX to Vulkan in the last weeks of release. Also the XBox version is probably their main release anyway this being Bungie after all.
Linuxwarper Oct 15, 2019
I am convinced it will be adequate to good experience. The worries I have is implications Stadia's rise will have for gaming as a whole. I imagine we will see games being exclusive to Stadia, further tarnishing PC landscape (Epic). And not only just a exclusivity to Stadia market but possibly another kind of exclusivity: streaming only.
There are many other issues too, such as Google not being fair to developers by rejecting or burying their games because they don't have the "right" political view. Or that their game is "problematic".

The only positives I see is Vulkan being adopted more and Stadia making it harder for EGS to be successful. Hopefully it will also help with Linux ecosystem in general more than it will hurt us. I mean if Google really cared about desktop Linux they could, at very least, encourage developers to also develop their games (local version) on Stadia for a distribution of their choice: either Debian or Ubuntu. I won't hold my breath, that's wishful thinking. They seem like the type to use Linux primarily for their own gain.
Quoting: chancho_zombieeveryone is so eager to see all the negatives. I think that we owe a lot to google for making the modern internet what it is, we wouldn't have android, and lot of tech advances. I don't see google as a negative monopoly in this case it is a positive monopoly if they were that evil, they would work with the Chinese government to control everything because that would be their wet dream right?
I said this before I'm not afraid of companies controlling your data, governments controlling the data that´s worrisome.
Correct me if I'm wrong but has Google not benefited from technologies that FOSS developers have made? Furthermore is it not part of their development process to make their projects open source partially because this will allow developers outside their company to chip in and help the development? So why should FOSS enthusiasts be grateful for them when it seems their actions are largely motivated by their own self interest?

As for a company or government controlling information it should be quite clear that Google does that.


Last edited by Linuxwarper on 15 October 2019 at 11:16 pm UTC
GustyGhost Oct 15, 2019
I will derive great joy from watching how this unfolds from a safe distance.


How will the monkeys react when their masters dump a round of streaming bananas into the roof of their cage?
mylka Oct 16, 2019
Quoting: F.Ultra
Quoting: mylka
Quoting: Doc Angelo
Quoting: mylkaas far as i know stadia games dont even use vulkan for windows
i hope this will change soon, or stadia is very useless for linux gaming

Stadia doesn't run Windows on the game streaming servers. They run Debian Linux.

i know, but vulkan does and games like destiny 2 use dx on windows, even if they need vulkan on stadia

Of course it does, AAA games such as this have been in development for many years before Google even announced Stadia and there is just no way that a company like Bungie would change their entire engine from DX to Vulkan in the last weeks of release. Also the XBox version is probably their main release anyway this being Bungie after all.

weeks?
stadia was announced 7 months ago and they had some games to show, so some developers already had a dev kit back then
plenty of time to use vulkan if you ask me


Last edited by mylka on 16 October 2019 at 12:24 am UTC
Koopacabras Oct 16, 2019
Quoting: LinuxwarperCorrect me if I'm wrong but has Google not benefited from technologies that FOSS developers have made? Furthermore is it not part of their development process to make their projects open source partially because this will allow developers outside their company to chip in and help the development? So why should FOSS enthusiasts be grateful for them when it seems their actions are largely motivated by their own self interest?

As for a company or government controlling information it should be quite clear that Google does that.

I don't want to get off topic here but google has developed hundreds of open source projects, it's not just them taking it's also giving wonderful projects to the community.
https://opensource.google/projects/explore/featured
android, chromium, go language, dart language, fuchsia os, kubernetes, webrtc, webm and many many more. And coincidentally some of those projects have benefited their competitors like amazon using the android fork, fireos ; or any VPS cloud service (azure,alibaba,etc) using google technologies. So that's another reason why I think it's a good monopoly.

Sorry I want to post a more lengthy answer, but let's keep this tidy, this is a gaming site, maybe I should not have posted the first (albeit controversial) post that started this conversation.


Last edited by Koopacabras on 16 October 2019 at 2:35 am UTC
iiari Oct 16, 2019
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I certainly am intending to try Stadia for its technical aspects if nothing else. I really do think streaming gaming can and will be revolutionary (see the upcoming MS Flight Sim 2020 which will stream Bing high resolution mapping data for the ENTIRE WORLD into the flight sim for unparalleled realism). There are many reasons to be concerned, which many have outlined, but there's huge promise here too.

As far as Stadia itself, I'm actually predicting its influence will be less than anticipated/feared, due to its pricing scheme. I thought Google would want to make the Netflix of Gaming but I think the pricing will effectively prevent that...
[email protected] Oct 16, 2019
It's not the Netflix of gaming. You don't get a catalog of games to deal with.

You still have to buy your games on Stadia. Stadia simply helps offload it off the hardware.
Skipperro Oct 16, 2019
Quoting: Liam DaweStill, not entirely sure who their market is exactly...

As someone who works in the company selling Gaming-PCs I can tell you, because I've done research about possible Stadia impact on our sales.
If you are interested, I can share the details with you, but to get the picture - if you look at the Stadia not as as a service on your PC, but as a hardware replacement, it's a great deal.

There is no PC, that would play all the games they will have in 4K for 10$ a month (360$ given average PC lifespan of 3 years). Even if I calculated all the extra costs like extra money per month for faster Internet and ignored price for electricity, it's still, from economic point of view, in the best-case scenario - the same. If you want to have a PC for the Internet browsing and games, you will spend less money buying cheap, entry level PC and Stadia subscription than a 4K capable machine.

And if you only want to play in FullHD - I cannot even compare the prices, because local PC will always cost something and Stadia is free so... divide by zero exception!

I say it over and over again in every Stadia discussion - look at it from the perspective of someone who wants to buy a new Gaming PC, because it's meant to replace hardware and compete with local, mainstream gaming rigs. From this perspective, their market seems pretty big to me.
Purple Library Guy Oct 16, 2019
I wish them moderate success. Enough to help make Vulkan more dominant and developing on Linux more mainstream. Not enough to cripple normal PC gaming and leave us with all our games are belong to fickle megacorp.
Not that I'll be using it. Not my thing at all.


Last edited by Purple Library Guy on 16 October 2019 at 8:06 am UTC
Eike Oct 16, 2019
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Quoting: Purple Library GuyI wish them moderate success. Enough to help make Vulkan more dominant and developing on Linux more mainstream. Not enough to cripple normal PC gaming and leave us with all our games are belong to fickle megacorp.

Good points. :)


Last edited by Eike on 16 October 2019 at 8:17 am UTC
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