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Microsoft Teams is now available on Linux

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Available in public preview, Microsoft just added Linux support for their unified communication and collaboration platform Microsoft Teams.

Starting today, Microsoft Teams is available for Linux users in public preview, enabling high quality collaboration experiences for the open source community at work and in educational institutions. Users can download the native Linux packages in .deb and .rpm formats here. We are constantly improving based on community feedback, so please download and submit feedback based on your experience.

The Microsoft Teams client is the first Office app that is coming to Linux desktops, and will support all of Teams’ core capabilities. Teams is the hub for teamwork that brings together chat, video meetings, calling, and collaboration on Office 365 documents and business processes within a single, integrated experience.

Marissa Salazar, Microsoft

This isn't just appearing out of nowhere though, Microsoft has been working with select companies (like Volvo Cars) over the course of a few months with the Linux client of Teams. It seems there was enough interest to bring it over to Linux. Sounds like a similar story with Unity, when they officially announced the Linux Editor being in Preview a few months ago due to increasing demand. You can find the official announcement here.

Not gaming news of course but we do often cover lots of Linux-related cool stuff. It's good to see Microsoft begin to slowly change and accept Linux, even using it themselves and integrating it into Windows with the Windows Subsystem for Linux.

Heck, even their new web browser Edge is going to be coming to Linux. Every step like this, brings down another barrier for developers of all kinds using Linux, don't underestimate the importance of it.

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wazz4657 11 December 2019 at 2:27 am UTC
This is good news. I use Teams at work with Trello to communicate progress on projects with some of the guys. We are too cheap for JIRA. Ive been forced to use the web client, which only works in Firefox, which ain't a browser that I use for anything else, so this eliminates that. I'm happy about this.
Phlebiac 11 December 2019 at 7:37 am UTC
fleskI'm not a .NET developer, so I'm not an authority on the subject, but I know our Microsoft teams are developing most of their applications with .NET Core deployed on Linux these days, so I assume it has most/all of the features that .NET has.

Not all the way there yet, but they are getting much closer. The current Windows-only .NET is going away with the next, fully cross-platform, release:
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/introducing-net-5/
Liam Dawe 11 December 2019 at 10:52 am UTC
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Liam DaweYes, we do need to care. Same as we need to care about any application/game a lot of people use, that isn't available easily on Linux. Every single one is a barrier that can prevent people from sticking with Linux. We can make as many big steps on performance, ease of install and updating and so on - all junk unless what people want and regularly use is on Linux. Steps like this are important. Anyone who disagrees, frankly has their head firmly in a bubble.

As a Linux user, I actually find such examples damaging. I look at the IM situation globally, and it's not a Linux specific issue. E-mail managed to push through the federated approach, and only because it happened years ago, we are now lucky we can send e-mail from any server to any server.

IM is a horror story in comparison. Walled garden servers and services grow like mushrooms, and almost none of them can talk to each other. Attempts to advance federated approaches (XMPP and now Matrix) are met with total indifference from the greedy owners of the walled options.
Regardless of the issues surrounding collab/IM clients like this, my point was still pretty clear. If a lot of people use them, we need them available on Linux and I'm sure you fully understand this.
thoughtfulhippo 11 December 2019 at 10:58 am UTC
While my attitude to Microsoft has definitely softened over the last decade, and I do see it as a positive not being forced to use Windows for 1 or 2 applications that may have been forced on you by your client / employer, I will remain hugely skeptical of their 'love linux' motives until I stop hearing about this sh*t.
WorMzy 11 December 2019 at 11:04 am UTC
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WorMzyMeh, uses gtk3. I'll keep running teams at work on a Windows client.

Why you don't like GTK3? What would you prefer instead?

Mostly historical reasons -- I'm still bitter that the gnome devs just unceremoniously threw gnome2 out the window and said that everyone should use the monstrosity that is gnome3 instead.
I also particularly don't like Gnome devs hostile attitude towards end users who don't want to use their defaults, their tendency to break themes every six months (allegedly they've stopped doing this now?), and them telling application devs that they should only have code for gtk/gnome-specific "features" (instead of coding for multiple DEs), etc..

What I prefer instead is anything that isn't gtk3. Like I said, I'd rather run a Windows application than a native Linux gtk3 app.
I too can't stand Gnome3. So instead I use Mate and occasionally Cinnamon . . . both of which, I believe, use gtk3. So I feel you're throwing out the baby with the bathwater there.

My view is that it isn't bathwater, it's epoxy resin. The two things are too tightly tied together -- GTK3 is developed by gnome for gnome. They don't care if cinnamon breaks every six months because they changed all the library functions, so long as gnome keeps working. I don't want to deal with gnome's shit, so I don't use gtk3. I'm not attached to that "baby", so I'm not going to waste my time trying to separate it from the "bathwater".

CyrilOr rather, why Qt is better than GTK3?

I don't know, and I don't care which is better, and I don't want to get into that debate; I just don't allow gtk3 on my systems and actively avoid applications that use it (unless I can recompile them to use something else).
Nanobang 11 December 2019 at 12:31 pm UTC
tmtvlWow, Microsoft is being so good to Linux. Almost like they're... hugging us. A tender and loving embrace, I'm sure.

It sounds like the abusive relationship cycle---abuse, reconciliation, honeymoon period, rinse and repeat ...


Last edited by Nanobang on 11 December 2019 at 12:32 pm UTC
LordDaveTheKind 11 December 2019 at 4:17 pm UTC
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LibertyPaulMDon't underestimate how big a deal this is for enterprise, a very important market as far as the desktop is concerned. Between this and Citrix I am almost at a point where I could use my linux PC for work given how many of our tools are online.

Completely agree. The real point that a few people have missed is that there will always be a better option for chats, calls, collaboration and office suite with native Linux apps if we are considering just the personal use. The Linux support for Microsoft Teams is pretty much designed for those B2B or Corporate scenarios where Linux users can chat, share the screen and collaborate on documents with Windows users.

My case is similar: when I'm travelling with my personal Linux laptop I usually connect to my Company's Windows Terminal Desktop. I could probably find Teams for Linux a good solution for not logging at all on the WTD in the first place.


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LordDaveTheKind 11 December 2019 at 4:20 pm UTC
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ShmerlAnyway, do we need to care about Teams? Just another proprietary, non federated, walled garden IM service, that's not solving but proliferating the problem of IM fragmentation. Matrix is much better approach.

For personal use no, we don't. For a B2B/Corporate collaboration scenario where all the employees are using Microsoft products as a standard de facto, yes we do.
Cyril 11 December 2019 at 7:33 pm UTC
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WorMzyMeh, uses gtk3. I'll keep running teams at work on a Windows client.

Why you don't like GTK3? What would you prefer instead?

Mostly historical reasons -- I'm still bitter that the gnome devs just unceremoniously threw gnome2 out the window and said that everyone should use the monstrosity that is gnome3 instead.
I also particularly don't like Gnome devs hostile attitude towards end users who don't want to use their defaults, their tendency to break themes every six months (allegedly they've stopped doing this now?), and them telling application devs that they should only have code for gtk/gnome-specific "features" (instead of coding for multiple DEs), etc..

What I prefer instead is anything that isn't gtk3. Like I said, I'd rather run a Windows application than a native Linux gtk3 app.
I too can't stand Gnome3. So instead I use Mate and occasionally Cinnamon . . . both of which, I believe, use gtk3. So I feel you're throwing out the baby with the bathwater there.

My view is that it isn't bathwater, it's epoxy resin. The two things are too tightly tied together -- GTK3 is developed by gnome for gnome. They don't care if cinnamon breaks every six months because they changed all the library functions, so long as gnome keeps working. I don't want to deal with gnome's shit, so I don't use gtk3. I'm not attached to that "baby", so I'm not going to waste my time trying to separate it from the "bathwater".

CyrilOr rather, why Qt is better than GTK3?

I don't know, and I don't care which is better, and I don't want to get into that debate; I just don't allow gtk3 on my systems and actively avoid applications that use it (unless I can recompile them to use something else).

I don't know about Cinnamon but as I said I'm using XFCE which use GTK3 but I don't see any breaks when updating, and I don't remember having one.
It's clearly your choice but it seems not really solid to me.
But yeah it's very off topic.


Last edited by Cyril on 11 December 2019 at 7:39 pm UTC
Dunc 11 December 2019 at 11:57 pm UTC
SwiftpawThat's why we use Linux.
Speak for yourself.
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