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marcus Aug 29, 2018
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Wine/Proton: I would advocate for two questions. This would mirror the fact, that a wine play will get registered as Windows play for the dev, while a Proton play would count towards Linux usage. This is important (at least for me) for how often I am willing to use Wine/Proton.

The AMD/Nvidia graph: I just noticed ... the colors are different for the same answers (open/closed) in the AMD and Nvidia graphs. Could you fix that Liam so that same answers get same colors? This would make visual comparison easier.
cprn Aug 30, 2018
My take on SteamPlay is maybe unpopular but there are two types of usage there: whitelisted only and for all titles. The latter is a meaningful information as it's similar to Wine and probably requires you to tinker around or at least to check the game compatibility reports. Former is officially supported - a built-in function, therefore no tinkering - IMO it's a meaningless information comparable to asking whether a user starts games via desktop shortcut or the "Play" button in the Steam client's library view.

If we really want meaningful information there should be at least 5 questions involved, I think:

  • When was the last time you used Wine to play a Windows game?

  • When was the last time you used SteamPlay to play a whitelisted Windows game?

  • When was the last time you used SteamPlay to play an unsupported Windows game?

  • How many times during last month you had to tinker to run a Windows game with Wine?

  • How many times during last month you had to tinker to run a Windows game with SteamPlay?



And I say "at least" because it doesn't include Lutris and virtualization. For everyone who really wants to have a complete image of ways to game on Linux there's a series in the making on the Level1Linux YouTube channel.


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axredneck Aug 31, 2018
Quoting: tonRYes, I'd seen severals on extensions.gnome.org. But, I research severals forums especially Ubuntu-related one, sometimes the extension may break the whole OS. I really don't want to take the risk.

Nowadays, I'm value stability. I'd no longer have enough free time to fix my computers like when I was 12-19/20, that's why I use Ubuntu. But, even Ubuntu also sometimes unstable nowadays, I don't know which distros I'll adopt next...
For me Arch is more stable than Ubuntu was when i used it.
edit: also if you need stable DE you can use XFCE.


Last edited by axredneck on 31 August 2018 at 10:43 pm UTC
tonR Aug 31, 2018
Quoting: axredneck
Quoting: tonRYes, I'd seen severals on extensions.gnome.org. But, I research severals forums especially Ubuntu-related one, sometimes the extension may break the whole OS. I really don't want to take the risk.

Nowadays, I'm value stability. I'd no longer have enough free time to fix my computers like when I was 12-19/20, that's why I use Ubuntu. But, even Ubuntu also sometimes unstable nowadays, I don't know which distros I'll adopt next...
For me Arch is more stable than Ubuntu was when i used it.
edit: also if you need stable DE you can use XFCE.
Agree, Arch nowadays much more stable than Ubuntu. I'm currently "dipping my toes" on Antergos but not ready adopting it full-time yet as still not comfortable on leaving *ubuntu-environment.

I'm more attracted to Lubuntu/LXDE because it looks like ol' skool Windows and can run on majority of old laptops yet still in *ubuntu-environment.

I'm waiting what's best 18.10 can offer. If I'm fed-up with Ubuntu Vanilla, hello Antergos/Lubuntu...
cprn Sep 3, 2018
Maybe the proper question nowadays would be "When did you last time buy a game without Linux support to play it on Linux"?
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