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Today will go down in the history books of Linux gaming that’s for sure. Sadly, this release has been pretty quiet. I was hoping for a much bigger bang like we were given with the original announcement, as this release day is a bit of a let-down. We haven’t seen any major new games released with it today, I was expecting at the very least one of the Saints Row games and Rocket League, or just something with a bit of oomph to it.

However, there has been a vast amount of activity on SteamDB’s page of Linux game hints, so it’s probable that a few developers have sped-up a bit.

It remains to be seen how Steam Machines will affect our market share, while I am sceptical about it all I am remaining excited and positive about it. It’s the only thing that has ever truly pushed Linux gaming, and I will be forever thankful to Valve for their efforts.

We probably won’t see any real activity in the Steam Hardware Survey for our market share moving for a good few months, and we still don’t have a clue how Valve will show it. It will be foolish of them not to show it at all in their survey, so we will just have to wait and see. It is a real concern of mine though, as I've never seen anyone get a survey in Steam's Big Picture Mode (does it even exist there?).

I officially have a Steam Controller in my hands right now (FINALLY), so you can expect some real thoughts from me on it soon. I also have a dedicated Steam Machine I have been testing and playing games on for the last few days, so I will also have some thoughts up on SteamOS soon too.

The weird thing is, they haven't announced an official release of SteamOS. Their news about SteamOS is pretty much non-existent. I would have assumed it would have been given official release status today too, but apparently not. If it is, they are being quiet about it. I'm starting to think they won't ever give SteamOS a "final" release status, but keep it as an ongoing development with small milestones.

You can find the Steam Sale right here. You can buy a Steam Controller here, a Steam Link here or just view their new hardware page here.

How do you feel about today? The best thing to takeaway from it is that hopefully we will have a continuing steady pace of new Linux games.
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ricki42 11 November 2015 at 3:12 am UTC

Mountain ManI know from personal experience that Steam for Linux throws up the survey request far less frequently than it does on Windows. I went nearly two-years without a single survey request in Linux, but I would get one every couple of months in Windows, which was ironic considering that at the time, I booted into Windows only occasionally and used Linux almost every single day. I've heard from a number of other people who have had the exact same experience.

I'm starting to wonder if the bolded is exactly the reason. For a bit over a year, I've been running Steam almost daily on my gaming PC, I got the survey once early on. Today, I started Steam on my laptop, just to check out the sale, I don't use it much to play anymore. And of course, the survey pops up. Both run Linux, Ubuntu on PC, Fedora on laptop. Maybe the hardware survey has a higher chance of coming up when Steam notices some change compared to your usual setup, rather than polling people completely at random. Valve anyway knows what OS you're using to connect, they don't need a survey for that.
Don't know, just a suspicion I have. If anyone here has a second Linux machine that they don't usually use for Steam, maybe even with a different distro, try starting Steam a few times to see if you get the survey, would be interesting if this is reproducible.


ShabbyX 11 November 2015 at 3:31 am UTC

ricki42
Mountain ManI know from personal experience that Steam for Linux throws up the survey request far less frequently than it does on Windows. I went nearly two-years without a single survey request in Linux, but I would get one every couple of months in Windows, which was ironic considering that at the time, I booted into Windows only occasionally and used Linux almost every single day. I've heard from a number of other people who have had the exact same experience.

I'm starting to wonder if the bolded is exactly the reason. For a bit over a year, I've been running Steam almost daily on my gaming PC, I got the survey once early on. Today, I started Steam on my laptop, just to check out the sale, I don't use it much to play anymore. And of course, the survey pops up. Both run Linux, Ubuntu on PC, Fedora on laptop. Maybe the hardware survey has a higher chance of coming up when Steam notices some change compared to your usual setup, rather than polling people completely at random. Valve anyway knows what OS you're using to connect, they don't need a survey for that.
Don't know, just a suspicion I have. If anyone here has a second Linux machine that they don't usually use for Steam, maybe even with a different distro, try starting Steam a few times to see if you get the survey, would be interesting if this is reproducible.

This seems to be exactly the reason. I had never got the survey, until I switched daily gaming to Linux and very few times that I went back to windows I got asked to do the survey. Not sure how "time" plays in this, but anyway, last month I changed my graphics card and sure enough, in the beginning of this month I got asked to do the survey on Linux. It does actually make sense for valve to be interested in knowing your "new" hardware, not just random sampling.


ShabbyX 11 November 2015 at 3:34 am UTC

Also, while I am somewhat disappointed about how silent today went, I am also kind of relieved.

We know that OpenGL is too old for modern gaming and we have been having performance problems for it. I was certainly hoping Steam Machines would come out after Vulkan is released. I guess they didn't want to delay that so much, so they didn't build the hype either. Once Vulkan becomes common-place, who knows, maybe they start building the hype too!

Either way, good job Valve, we love you!


Swiftpaw 11 November 2015 at 5:03 am UTC

Launch titles would have been nice, but I guess we'll just get the games as they become ready instead. Oh well!


Mblackwell 11 November 2015 at 5:18 am UTC

For those experimenting with controller setups, try a Mouse Joystick setup for games where you can't simply set Mouse as the right pad (some games don't support simultaneous input). I also found that adding the gyro at a really low sensitivity allows me to fine tune my aiming. I know there are already some setups that use it, but just confirming that it really does help.

I really don't like the feeling of joystick input on the trackpads though, maybe it's just me.

Also some games like Alien Isolation have decent defaults, and other games like Dying Light you'll have to tweak and tweak. In general it does take a lot of getting used to. It's a pretty different/alien setup, even moreso for people like me who generally play on older/Nintendo controllers so all of the buttons are flipped.

Damn you Microsoft (actually it was SEGA first on the Dreamcast) for flipping the buttons!


Last edited by Mblackwell at 11 November 2015 at 5:20 am UTC


N30N 11 November 2015 at 6:12 am UTC

MblackwellI really don't like the feeling of joystick input on the trackpads though, maybe it's just me.
It's all going to depend on the game. It looks quite natural for Audiosurf 2:


wleoncio 11 November 2015 at 7:04 am UTC

It really is worrying that Valve doesn't seem to care about the official launch of its own product. Even if it's a long race, they should at least have published something on their news page, something like "We've got some nice surprises for Linux and Steam OS gamers planned for 2016, so sit tight!"


neowiz73 11 November 2015 at 7:17 am UTC

ShabbyX
ricki42
Mountain ManI know from personal experience that Steam for Linux throws up the survey request far less frequently than it does on Windows. I went nearly two-years without a single survey request in Linux, but I would get one every couple of months in Windows, which was ironic considering that at the time, I booted into Windows only occasionally and used Linux almost every single day. I've heard from a number of other people who have had the exact same experience.

I'm starting to wonder if the bolded is exactly the reason. For a bit over a year, I've been running Steam almost daily on my gaming PC, I got the survey once early on. Today, I started Steam on my laptop, just to check out the sale, I don't use it much to play anymore. And of course, the survey pops up. Both run Linux, Ubuntu on PC, Fedora on laptop. Maybe the hardware survey has a higher chance of coming up when Steam notices some change compared to your usual setup, rather than polling people completely at random. Valve anyway knows what OS you're using to connect, they don't need a survey for that.
Don't know, just a suspicion I have. If anyone here has a second Linux machine that they don't usually use for Steam, maybe even with a different distro, try starting Steam a few times to see if you get the survey, would be interesting if this is reproducible.

This seems to be exactly the reason. I had never got the survey, until I switched daily gaming to Linux and very few times that I went back to windows I got asked to do the survey. Not sure how "time" plays in this, but anyway, last month I changed my graphics card and sure enough, in the beginning of this month I got asked to do the survey on Linux. It does actually make sense for valve to be interested in knowing your "new" hardware, not just random sampling.

I've been distro hopping for the paste month and each time I installed steam on a clean build and had to setup the initial login I would get the steam survey every time. It would seem to me if you choose to except the survey then it automatically does it each month, but on occasion it seems to just popup for it to renew for some reason. I'm not sure if you decline if it still sends system information or not. I've always excepted it.


FredO 11 November 2015 at 7:51 am UTC

Total War: Rome 2 should have been a RELEASE title - very disappointed in CA about this. And they can't say they didn't have enough time, it was announced so long ago it feels like it was still in the dark ages!


wleoncio 11 November 2015 at 8:02 am UTC

neowiz73I've been distro hopping for the paste month and each time I installed steam on a clean build and had to setup the initial login I would get the steam survey every time.

I'm starting to think about setting up a Live USB just to boot up once a month, install and log into Steam. Since we know the survey is biased, we should do something to lessen it.


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