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System76 have put Coreboot into two of their main Intel-powered laptops

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Want your next laptop to be a bit more open? System76 have announced their Galago Pro and Darter Pro now come with Coreboot, the open source boot firmware.

From what they said, this should enable their systems to boot "29%" faster. Both systems are available for pre-order now, with shipping expected to begin in the last week of October. Both sound like pretty great units for work and a little Linux gaming on the go. The Galago Pro starts at $949 while the more powerful Darter Pro starts at $999.

System76 are gradually becoming a bit more like the Apple of the Linux hardware world now. They have their own distribution with Pop!_OS, their own custom-built desktop casing with the Thelio, their work on a properly integrated firmware manager and now more devices moving over to Coreboot and it's all sounding great. A strong Linux hardware company will be awesome for the future of Linux.

You can see all their laptops on their official site here. You can also see exactly what they're using on GitHub.

Late on this, as again System76 did not send us a press release. It should hopefully be sorted going forward.

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Cyba.Cowboy 12 October 2019 at 3:49 am UTC
GamingonLinux.comSystem76 are gradually becoming a bit more like the Apple of the Linux hardware world now.

Well System76 already charge very similar prices to Apple, and that's before shipping or local taxes (e.g. the infamous "Australia Tax")... After factoring-in shipping / local taxes, System76 is well and truly into "Apple" territory, with regards to price.

You could argue that System76 provide their own drivers, extensive support to their customers and so forth... But I'm not convinced that these things are worth such a huge markup, especially when you consider the existing hardware which is generally pretty Linux-friendly (ASUS are a great example here) and the endless stream of technical support for Linux that is available online.

Last edited by Cyba.Cowboy on 12 October 2019 at 3:54 am UTC
chr 12 October 2019 at 7:07 am UTC
KithopHonestly, I can't wait for "x86" (or the weird bastardization of what's left of it as a mess of decoder logic taking up wayyy too much space in modern CPUs) to die and be superceded by a much more open RISC-V implementation anyhow. One day. ;)

Normies are going to ensure that this remains forever a pipe dream.

At a point where playing x86 games (and using other software) with decent performance is possible on RISC-V, adoption can start to grow. At least here it isn't one company against another necessarily. Intel absolutely will start selling us RISC-V at some point if it seems lucrative.

14Speaking about AMD laptops... are they good these days? I like AMD as a company, but I also don't dislike Intel. The last AMD laptop in my household was ten years ago, and it was bad. It was an HP something. Perhaps it was bad design around the chips, but that thing was pretty bad. It ran super hot, loud, and slow. It also had stability problems pretty quickly. We got rid of it after owning it for only about a year I think. So, anyway, that's the last taste of AMD in a laptop for me. Worth a taste again? I know AMD has been in gaming consoles many times.

I don't think it is entirely fair to speak of "AMD laptops" or "Intel laptops". I mean, CPU/GPU design might affect how the laptop runs a tiny bit, but I'd argue that the majority of how it performs is on the manufacturer's shoulders there. You can always cool and excellent CPU or GPU poorly (loud or hot or slow).
My personal opinion is that consumers are sometimes even oversimplifying too much when they are talking about producer brand affecting the performance of a device. In general past experience is a good indicator of future experience in this, but reviews are so much more reliable - a generally good producer can produce a shitty laptop and a generally poor producer might produce a great laptop.

All of this applies to desktop computers as well, but much more so for laptops where compromises between price, noise, energy draw (battery life), hotness and performance is especially impactful.
techieg33k 13 October 2019 at 3:10 pm UTC
I also would love to see AMD as an option. This CoreBoot is a great step towards more freedom.

Honestly if I could afford it I'd get a laptop from them, but for now I don't get a laptop at all.

I also agree RISC-V would be even more awesome though
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