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System76, the Linux hardware vendor sent out a press release announcing a refresh of their most powerful laptops, which now boast 7th Gen Intel CPUs.

The Oryx Pro, Serval WS, and Bonobo WS all now feature Intel's latest CPUs and have the option of a HiDPI display.

Ryan Sipes, their community manager had this to say:
QuoteThe Oryx Pro, Serval WS, and Bonobo WS are very popular products for professionals as they feature all the necessary ports and plenty of power. System76 is proud to continue iterating on these products, keeping up with the taxing workloads of our customers who are doing big things.

The Oryx Pro, which is the cheapest out of the three higher-end laptops comes with an Nvidia 1060 and an Intel i7 as standard, so it is pretty beefy. Could be a pretty good gaming laptop if you're in the market for new hardware.

I've only ever heard good things about these guys, and considering they're a Linux hardware vendor, they deserve our support and respect for serving us!

Hopefully one day I will be able to grab some hardware from them to see how their build quality and performance are in games.

Have you purchased anything from System76? I'm keen to read your thoughts in the comments.
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Arehandoro commented on 17 February 2017 at 11:29 am UTC

Is it just me or are they pretty overpriced?


hardpenguin commented on 17 February 2017 at 11:57 am UTC

ArehandoroIs it just me or are they pretty overpriced?
The competition (mostly Lenovo) has better prices, but again, System76 is a company dedicated to Ubuntu hardware...

If it wasn't for the cost of shipping to Europe + the custom tax, I would consider getting a laptop from them.


Arehandoro commented on 17 February 2017 at 12:13 pm UTC

hardpenguin
ArehandoroIs it just me or are they pretty overpriced?
The competition (mostly Lenovo) has better prices, but again, System76 is a company dedicated to Ubuntu hardware...

If it wasn't for the cost of shipping to Europe + the custom tax, I would consider getting a laptop from them.

Speaking from an ignorant point of view, what are the advantages of getting a System76 Ubuntu dedicated desktop to a desktop choosing the components myself and installing Ubuntu (or any other distro)?


cRaZy-bisCuiT commented on 17 February 2017 at 12:17 pm UTC

Arehandoro
hardpenguin
ArehandoroIs it just me or are they pretty overpriced?
The competition (mostly Lenovo) has better prices, but again, System76 is a company dedicated to Ubuntu hardware...

If it wasn't for the cost of shipping to Europe + the custom tax, I would consider getting a laptop from them.

Speaking from an ignorant point of view, what are the advantages of getting a System76 Ubuntu dedicated desktop to a desktop choosing the components myself and installing Ubuntu (or any other distro)?
Nothing, you just pay extra. I did never understood why I should be doing so. Claiming that company is dedicaded to Linux is somehow true, but also on Lenovo Thinkpads and Dell Latitudes Linux runs pretty fine as well as the overall hardware quality is much better. Ofc they don't have gaming mashines - I'm talking about business class.


elbuglione commented on 17 February 2017 at 12:22 pm UTC

Arehandoro
hardpenguin
ArehandoroIs it just me or are they pretty overpriced?
The competition (mostly Lenovo) has better prices, but again, System76 is a company dedicated to Ubuntu hardware...

If it wasn't for the cost of shipping to Europe + the custom tax, I would consider getting a laptop from them.

Speaking from an ignorant point of view, what are the advantages of getting a System76 Ubuntu dedicated desktop to a desktop choosing the components myself and installing Ubuntu (or any other distro)?


Oficial Linux Support.


Arehandoro commented on 17 February 2017 at 12:29 pm UTC

cRaZy-bisCuiT
Nothing, you just pay extra. I did never understood why I should be doing so. Claiming that company is dedicaded to Linux is somehow true, but also on Lenovo Thinkpads and Dell Latitudes Linux runs pretty fine as well as the overall hardware quality is much better. Ofc they don't have gaming mashines - I'm talking about business class.

That's what I thought then, thanks

elbuglione
Oficial Linux Support.

As in issues with hardware? Wouldn't Ubuntu have support too if it was installed on my PC?


elo commented on 17 February 2017 at 12:33 pm UTC
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Arehandoro
cRaZy-bisCuiT
Nothing, you just pay extra. I did never understood why I should be doing so. Claiming that company is dedicaded to Linux is somehow true, but also on Lenovo Thinkpads and Dell Latitudes Linux runs pretty fine as well as the overall hardware quality is much better. Ofc they don't have gaming mashines - I'm talking about business class.

That's what I thought then, thanks

elbuglione
Oficial Linux Support.

As in issues with hardware? Wouldn't Ubuntu have support too if it was installed on my PC?

The big thing is that they deeply test and make sure their hardware works perfectly with Ubuntu, they even write custom code (which I believe they contribute to the linux kernel, if I'm not mistaken) to make problematic hardware work as it should. They really deserve our support, even if they are a bit pricey.


Mountain Man commented on 17 February 2017 at 12:35 pm UTC

ArehandoroIs it just me or are they pretty overpriced?
Typical for this kind of product. It's always cheaper to build yourself (although that's not really an option for laptops, unfortunately).


M@GOid commented on 17 February 2017 at 12:50 pm UTC

Overall Linux distros hardware support is pretty good these days, but is not perfect. I have seen some laptops with unsupported hardware, like network devices or function keys on the keyboard. Those can be a bitch to make work, or not work at all because of lack of drivers.

Bleeding edge models of laptops can be problematic too. Ask anyone who bought the first Dell XPS 13, for example. It didn't work 100% in the first few months. I believe even Michael at Phoronix did have problems when he bought some famous new laptop a few years ago.

Enterprise models from Lenovo and Dell tend to work fine down the road, first, because they do sell some models with Linux themselves, second, a lot of hardware developers use then as personal machines.

The good thing about companies like System 76 is that you can buy anything from then with closed eyes, knowing everything will work out of the box from day one, something you can't say about vendors without official Linux support.


Last edited by M@GOid at 17 February 2017 at 12:52 pm UTC


namiko commented on 17 February 2017 at 1:08 pm UTC

EDIT: M@GOid *just* beat me to that first point!

System76, at least, take a lot of the guesswork out of knowing whether or not more recent hardware will actually work on Linux. Absolutely it would be cheaper to build your own, but there is the rare occasion where recent hardware just doesn't want to talk with the kernel.

System76 also made sense for us at the time because our last machine died from static, and we were paranoid about getting a machine that would last and definitely not have any ESD exposure whatsoever.

It's also fun to customize the machines offered. You can make the price more reasonable, and I noticed that they have 1-year financing offers now.

Bought a Wild Dog system with two big SSDs (120 or 160G, don't remember...) several years back for around $1000, haven't regretted it. Installed Arch on it almost immediately, and the hardware's been solid since. (*Not paid to say any of this, just a happy user.*)


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