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The Long Dark is leaving GOG tomorrow although it will still get updates

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Here's a curious one, the survival adventure The Long Dark from Hinterland Studio is going to be leaving GOG.

What's even stranger, is that GOG have an agreement with the developer that anyone who currently owns it or purchases it up until it leaves will still get updates to it. This only usually happens when developers are unhappy with GOG in terms of features, service or the "hassle" of supporting more than one store.

Here's what GOG said on their forum:

We'd like to give you a heads-up that on November 7th, 2pm UTC, The Long Dark will be removed from our catalog. 

If you were not sure whether you wish to have this exploration-survival game or not, now is a good time to decide :) 

Those who already own the games, or will purchase them before this Wednesday, will of course still be able to access them through their library. All owners will also have access to updates even after the game’s removal.

They also clarified here the agreement on updates.

No reason, however, has been given by either party on why this is happening, so I have reached out to Hinterland to see if they can let us know why and I will update this article if they reply. I don't want to speculate on it too much, but perhaps it's as a result of GOG's recent dumb tweet.

So after November 7th (tomorrow) you will have either Humble Store or Steam. If you decide you want it on GOG, find it here for now.

Hat tip to Doomguy in our Discord.

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Brisse 6 November 2018 at 4:54 pm UTC
kuhpunkt
Tuxee
kuhpunkt
PatolaIt even raises awareness that such motto exists.

That's baffling. What's next? Will Proton be the #FinalSolution for playing games on Linux? Look, I raised awareness to the Holocaust!

No you didn't (or rather wouldn't if tweeted). You'd make fun of 6 million murdered people by using an euphemism used solely by the Nazi for their genocide. That's not raising awareness. That's just plain stupid. Or vile. I get triggered on that since I hear such "funny quotes" much more frequently in recent times, both from "normal people" and politicians.

So you're completely ignoring the context...

Not sure if ignoring the context, or trying to explain to those who did. This thread continues to be confusing
Kithop 6 November 2018 at 5:47 pm UTC
Just going to throw this out there: Every time I hear someone complain about 'SJWs', and how they're ruining-our-whatevers, all I can think of are articles about 'Millenials are killing X industry'.

GOG's social media manager made an insensitive mistake, and in typical fashion, they doubled down on it rather than apologizing or admitting fault.

There's better places to spend your hard earned cash, on DRM-free games or otherwise.

If people want to stop buying games from GOG because of their actions as a company, and if developers want to pull their support, that's all within their rights. Obligatory XKCD.

tl;dr, you start foaming and raving about 'teh SJWs', it's a big neon sign that says 'ignore what this person has to say and move on, as they've missed the point'.
Protektor 6 November 2018 at 6:04 pm UTC
liamdaweI didn't actually pick a side. Saying something is dumb, is not picking a side.

In a sense you did pick a side. You are declaring a value of the idea or argument which is a way of picking a side in an argument or discussion. It would be no different from saying "that is smart" which is a value statement.

Personally I think they (GOG) realized they (GOG) made a mistake by quickly removing it (the tweet) but some did a screenshot of it. Why would they do a screenshot of it unless they were afraid it would be removed and wanted to nail them to the wall with it, because they didn't think removing it was nearly enough? It is clear there were other motives on the other side to me. Why must we nail everyone to the wall if they make a mistake or have a huge public self-flogging of them apologizing to anyone and everyone for every single mistake? It promotes tribalism, by creating an us versus them, it reduces society by trying to reduce free speech. We aren't debating the issues here we are discussing how bad these people are. The idea of free speech is to debate ideas not shutdown anyone we don't agree with. The best defense of bad speech is more speech so better ideas can win, not devolving into an us versus them and how someone is bad or evil for not thinking the same way as you. Unfortunately I even see attempts in this particular thread to create an increase in tribalism. The idea that you can't possibly empathize or understand another person because you aren't them, but in fact that is a fallacy. We as humans empathize with our fellow humans all the time. It's what allows us to build societies and survive against the odds.

Please don't increase tribalism and make things an us versus them and dehumanize anyone. Make this place a better place not a worse place, please.


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Cestarian 6 November 2018 at 6:25 pm UTC
kuhpunkt
CestarianHow could anyone even interpret that as something political or bad? And why should anyone give a single fuck about what people who are dumb and autistic enough to be triggered by that think?

It was tasteless, because the issue the hashtag was about is rather serious. (Ab)using something like this to promote yourself is dumb. That has nothing to do with SJW or whatever... just human decency. And do you even know what autistic means?

Come on, hashtags are serious business that can be 'abused' now? What has the world come to man? People actually care about hashtags? For real?

And yes I know what autistic means... Obviously. You, caring about these kinds of things, is highly indicates the possibility that you are autistic. (And the same could be said for the number of edits my posts tend to have indicating the possibility that I am autistic, not like it's a big deal or anything)


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kuhpunkt 6 November 2018 at 6:29 pm UTC
CestarianCome on, hashtags are serious business that can be 'abused' now? What has the world come to man? People actually care about hashtags? For real?

Of course they can be abused to gain attention. That's what happened.

CestarianAnd yes I know what autistic means... obviously.

Then enlighten me.
Cestarian 6 November 2018 at 6:35 pm UTC
kuhpunkt
CestarianCome on, hashtags are serious business that can be 'abused' now? What has the world come to man? People actually care about hashtags? For real?

Of course they can be abused to gain attention. That's what happened.

CestarianAnd yes I know what autistic means... obviously.

Then enlighten me.
Autism comes in many forms, but one of the most common forms it appears in is an unhealthy obsession with random things and repetitive behaviors, like for example, giving a shit about hashtags, getting outraged by the tiniest, most irrelevant details you can find, using tumblr, and other things like that. It's quite hard to explain it any further without going into great detail (like wall of text detail) and I don't want to spend that much time on you. Try wikipedia.


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kuhpunkt 6 November 2018 at 6:38 pm UTC
So you don't know what it means. You just use it as an insult, because that's the person you are.
liamdawe 6 November 2018 at 6:39 pm UTC
Protektor
liamdaweI didn't actually pick a side. Saying something is dumb, is not picking a side.

In a sense you did pick a side. You are declaring a value of the idea or argument which is a way of picking a side in an argument or discussion. It would be no different from saying "that is smart" which is a value statement.
Absolute rubbish. You're conflating the idea of not liking a specific thing someone did with not liking them at all. That's a dangerous thought pattern and I absolutely do not agree.

I can and will point out stupid things major stores and developers do, but that absolutely doesn't mean I am picking a side.

ProtektorPersonally I think they (GOG) realized they (GOG) made a mistake by quickly removing it (the tweet) but some did a screenshot of it. Why would they do a screenshot of it unless they were afraid it would be removed and wanted to nail them to the wall with it, because they didn't think removing it was nearly enough? It is clear there were other motives on the other side to me.
Motives on the other side? Oh please. GOG did this themselves.
fabertawe 6 November 2018 at 6:48 pm UTC
Kels
fabertaweI'm so happy having no knowledge of Twitter and Facebook, etc, etc. Somebody somewhere will always be offended by everything. Free speech is already irreparably damaged in the UK.

GOG should have had more sense than to post that. The level of uproar and backlash however, is just ludicrous.
What level of uproar? Some people are upset, there have been a small handful of articles calling them out on it, and an even smaller handful of game companies (allegedly) withdrew from the storefront over it.
Maybe I have overestimated the "level" as I don't have Twitter etc. I'm only judging from what I've read here and that seems like an over reaction to me considering what GOG actually wrote.

KelsIf you want a big hue and cry, just look at the "GOG did nothing wrong" crowd in this very thread going on about how unjust it is, and how free speech is endangered, and they'll never buy a game from Hinterland again, and how SJWs somehow run the whole world. There's histrionics for you.
I don't "want a big hue and cry", that's my point By "uproar" I meant everyone, irrespective of viewpoint. I guess I'm now part of it

BrisseSo "backlash", or as I would put it, pointing out when someone did something inappropriate, is not covered under your definition of free speech? Interesting.
Of course it is, I never said otherwise. My "free speech" dig was aimed very widely at social media in general. My second paragraph was where I mentioned GOG and this specific incident.

GOG did nothing "inappropriate", just misguided.

BrisseNot that this controversy has anything to do with free speech to begin with.
I disagree (to some extent). I find it both funny and sad that some people can get so upset at the silly pun that was actually written.
Brisse 6 November 2018 at 7:08 pm UTC
CestarianAnd yes I know what autistic means... Obviously. You, caring about these kinds of things, is highly indicates the possibility that you are autistic.

This is not something that furthers the discussion and is just a plain insult. I know this place isn't moderated much and I kind of like it because if anyone wants to make a fool of themselves then the evidence usually stays up for anyone to see in the future so you can see who someone really is, but I hope you realize that this sort of thing would hand you a temporary ban at a lot of mainstream tech websites.

fabertaweOf course it is, I never said otherwise. My "free speech" dig was aimed very widely at social media in general. My second paragraph was where I mentioned GOG and this specific incident.

GOG did nothing "inappropriate", just misguided.

It might have been misguided the first time (the gamergate tweet IIRC) and they should have learned from it, but then it happened again and again and by then they should have learned their lesson. After the third time they apologized and said "We will stick to games" but that's what they should have done after the first time. Only the future will tell if they stick to their word though.

I'm not sure it was your intention but I felt like the free speech dig was some excuse to silence the opposition because ironically people, especially the alt-right for some reason, like to use "free speech" as an argument to just silence the opposition. It's like "Hey, I'll have my free speech and I'll take away your freedom to have my free speech because free speech only belongs to me". I see that a lot, but maybe it was not your intention.
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