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ZED, a game that might make your own head spin a bit, as you assume the role of an aging artist whose mind isn’t quite all there. Taken over by a haze of dementia, you will be tasked with piecing together his mind.

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Developed by Eagre Games together with Skymap Games and publisher Cyan Ventures (the publishing arm of Cyan, developer of Myst), ZED is one of those games that split me. It made me think on a lot of things in the way that not too many games do. It was a very strange and surreal experience, one I’m not going to forget any time soon. Since it's not a very long game, I won't give out too many details on what happens as it would spoil it a bit too much I think.

ZED is full of some seriously good and incredibly strange design-work. It might be one of the most unique games I've played in some time, visually speaking. A twisting hallway made of doors—why not? It filled me with questions, where do those doors go? Are they all memories locked away you can’t access? Some times the best questions from games, are those that go unanswered to keep you thinking.

To be clear on something though, ZED is not a heavy puzzle game, instead it's more of a narrative-driven adventure. You could say it's a walking sim, which would be somewhat accurate although I don't particularly like that term myself, it feels pretty appropriate here. You continue to explore new weird and wonderful areas, each often representing something from your past. You collect memories to read over in your journal and when you've found enough you're ready to move on. There's a few light puzzles, which mostly rely on your powers of observation rather than twisting your brain around, so overall it's a pretty relaxing game.

As for the performance, is mostly sat around a smooth and solid 60FPS. It dips when entering a new scene as objects load in but it very quickly stabilizes.

Interestingly, ZED isn't quite the same game that was planned originally, so to go along with the official Linux release, I caught up with some of the people involved in making ZED a reality. So grab a coffee for the below interview.

GOL: What's it really like to run a crowdfunding campaign? ZED managed to get around $57,180 according to Kickstarter, it sounds like a lot but how far does that really go?

Chuck Carter (Founder, Eagre Games/Creative Director): “Well crowdfunding is a lot of work - all the setting up of the rewards, tiers and page design - to getting all of the assets needed for what you are raising money for.  Responding to every social media request - tweet, post and email - and going out and shaking the bushes of people who might be interested in what you’re selling and raising money for - all that research - let me just add - it was 24/7 a month before we launched ours.”

Seth (COO Eagre Games): “Running a crowdfunding campaign is best described as horrible. Horrendous. Hideous. Also bad, and not very good. When you run a crowdfunding campaign, especially on Kickstarter as we did where it's "all or nothing" the amount of stress you burden yourself with is beyond unhealthy. During the campaign I averaged about three hours of sleep a night and had the worries of not meeting the goal and stress of the campaign on top of that. There's enormous pressure to get your name out there and be engaging 20hrs a day, much of the public is somewhat averse to Kickstarters, it's difficult to get press attention, and quite frankly we didn't really know what to do while we were doing it. Looking back there's a LOT that we could have done better and should have done differently, but overall it wasn't as bad of experience as my initial response was. We met a lot of cool people and built a small fanbase of people who were genuinely interested in a concept Chuck had. As for the money, what we got really was not much and we grossly underestimated our funding.

Being based in Maine, our costs for overhead are actually fairly low, but unexpected expenses always come in and we didn't do a good job planning for that, and as many Kickstarters do, we ran out of money. Looking back it's utterly terrifying how close we came to flopping if not for Chuck's resilience for getting this story out. These are all great lessons that we're able to take into account for our next projects and can share with others.”

GOL: It's been a few years since the initial crowdfunding campaign. How has ZED changed from that initial vision to the final product?

Chuck: “Well at first we hoped to raise more money from other resources so we could expand our team for a much larger project. When that kind of funding did not materialize, we had to scale back our expectations after a while.  Just not enough funds to make the game we really wanted to make in some ways. But having said that - what we came up with with redesigns and a lot of work is what you see now - more focused on story and experience. And I think considering how small the core team really was and all of the obstacles we ran up against - running out of money, struggling to keep the company and project afloat, and keep the vision of the story/game alive  - including living in my office for almost two years so I could save some money - I think we’ve made something pretty special.”

Seth: In some ways it's changed significantly, in others it's really remained the same. The narrative is a lot tighter and more focused now and the gameplay is less puzzle oriented and instead more story oriented, which is actually more in line with what Chuck’s original vision was. The reason for this is that in 2018 we ran out of funding and were going to fold. Chuck decided to be a hero and take one more try at it, and partnered with our friends at Skymap Games to rebuild the game with VR and performance in mind and pitch to publishers.

GOL: You can see Carter's previous contributions to Myst coming through in your game. Did anything else inspire ZED?

Seth: ZED has been uniquely influenced by Chuck’s life. The house he grew up in is in the game, for example. I’ve always wondered just how personal ZED really is to Chuck. That said, the game has nearly a hundred Easter Eggs in it, there are little references an homages to everything.

Chuck: An early mentor/artist friend of mine had dementia and eventually passed away from various complications - that story stuck in his mind through the years and resulted in the story for ZED. As for art inspiration - too many things to mention here - I think if you ask anyone what inspires them you’ll get a ton of answers.

GOL: We've seen a lot of developers complain about things like Steam's algorithm, not getting noticed and so on. How has ZED's release been for you so far?

Chuck: “SETH - Answer this!”

Seth: “The only Steam release I care about is the Linux release. Steam is a seriously flawed ecosystem right now. In 2019 there will be over 10,000 games released for the first time in the history of the platform, in addition to the 30,000+ games already available on Steam. We’re not just competing against the releases of the day or week, but even games from 20 years ago. The original Half Life sold over 50,000 units in 2018. It’s now not uncommon for moderately anticipated titles to have sub-1000 launch week sales, and that’s a really unhealthy ecosystem for developers to release into.”

GOL: Since you developed the game with Unreal Engine, how did you find the Linux experience to be?

Seth: “Save for Godot, I figure UE4 actually works better for Linux than any other engine. Our friends at Skymap have another big Linux aficionado in-house in Ryan Kornheisl who’s worked with Lead Programmer Jon Vazquez to make everything work beautifully. We’ve had beta testers claim that this is the best Unreal Engine Linux build they’ve ever played.”

Jon Vazquez (Lead Programmer, Skymap Games): “Getting the game running on Linux was pretty easy overall, It mostly worked out of the box minus some issues with graphical bugs which were fixed with a version upgrade, and issues with setting resolution.”

Ryan Korhnheisl (Programmer, Skymap Games): “Pretty smooth for the most part! Some oddness with resolutions at the engine level but I imagine that will get smoothed out in upcoming UE4 versions.”

GOL: What is the most ridiculous bug you've come across while developing ZED? One that really made you laugh?

Jon: “The most ridiculous bug? The fact that no matter how hard you try, you cannot get the proper supported resolutions of the connected monitor on Linux and you cannot change the resolution as well. Simply because UE4 forces windowed fullscreen on Linux, which as a result in their code, makes it so it only gets the desktop resolution when using windowed fullscreen. So it’s a bit of an endless cycle.”

Ryan: “There was a texture bug that made the game real trippy but an engine update fixed that for us. I think the most ridiculous thing was the lack of Linux specific bugs actually. It was smoother than the "it just works" Mac version!”

Seth: “This is such a fun question. My favorite bug was one that allowed a player to pick up an object and have it fly halfway across the map, snap back, and smack the player in the face. My girlfriend discovered that at an inopportune time. We’ll probably miss out on sales by saying this, but unfortunately that build was scrapped.”

GOL: If you could do it all again, what would you do differently? What was your biggest challenge.

Chuck: “Full funding up front, a solid production oriented team - and a design that will be rock solid with no unnecessary changes in scope and content… every developer’s pipe dream.”

Seth: “As cliche as it sounds, the lessons we learned as a team have been invaluable, and they’re going to help us going forward. One of our biggest challenges was a major bottleneck in staffing that kept up part of production unnecessarily. We kind of had to balance bringing in income outside of gamedev to feed ourselves and getting the game done.”

Jon: “I would probably run a custom engine and have had an open thread on Linux for UE4 Linux support. This probably could have solved the headache of graphics issues on Linux.”

GOL: What's next for Eagre Games?

Seth: “Genuinely exciting things.”

Chuck: “Can’t tell you right now but it’s radically different from ZED and MYST.  :0)”

Seth: “Chuck has already said too much!”

GOL: Thoughts about the future of Linux gaming?

Jon: “I was pleasantly surprised by the support that Linux games get by Linux gamers in general. They are very active and willing to provide as much help as possible. If more games get on Linux I think engines like UE4 can properly put more time and support into this platform. There is definitely a need and a want for Linux games.”

Seth: “I’ve spilled the beans on your Discord (and also made it this far without the obligatory shoutout to the superb GoL Discord group) that I think a lot of major players in the gaming industry are starting to get turned on to Linux. Obviously Google’s Stadia platform has a Linux back-end and there are probably other major players in the industry investing heavily into innovative Linux technologies as well. Platforms like Proton and Lutris are beginning to make WINE obsolete. Vulkan is making Linux more accessible than ever. I wholeheartedly feel that is the best time in history to be a Linux gamer, and it is getting better every month.”

Ryan: “I think the future of gaming for Linux is looking good, hopefully I can help! The quality of hardware support is the best it’s been and game engines are bringing stronger and stronger support. Just need to keep being vocal so game devs keep putting in the small effort to port”

GOL: What's your thoughts as a studio about the Epic Games Store?

Seth: “I’ve chimed in on a number of very spirited and wonderful discussions about this on Discord and there’s a lot of productive dialogue to be had here. For starters, I’m not happy that they’re not yet supporting Linux and I’ve raised the issue directly with Epic. That aside, I highlighted earlier some of the ways that the Steam platform is failing developers. The biggest issue that the Epic Games Store brings for developers is the 23% savings over Steam since we’re an Unreal Engine title. That’s money that we can either pass on to the consumers or use to make our games better. We’ve literally had staff members sleeping on the floor of our office to cut down on their costs so they could continue working on ZED, and losing 35% of our revenue on Steam in an already overcrowded ecosystem really hurts us a lot and means it’s going to take a lot longer to recuperate our costs.

There are legitimate conversations to have about whether or not consumers want to support exclusivity deals, but some people have gone into hysterics with hocus pocus nonsense about EGS that simply isn’t true. I’m very fortunate to know some of the people at Epic fairly well and they’re genuinely good folks who are doing consumers and developers a long-term favor by entering and disrupting the market.

TL;DR: My thoughts are largely positive from a developer’s perspective and will be nearly entirely positive once they support Linux. It seems stupid to have a storefront that supports Mac but doesn’t support a platform 5x the market of Mac.”

Chuck: “I want to test those waters!  I’ll let you know!”

Seth: “I’d like to add a final note just to say that we’re really big fans of the Linux Community. We got such a tremendous response from Linux users on IRC, GoL and r/Linux_gaming during our initial Kickstarter that I’ve been saying for years we couldn’t do it without you. I’ve stated from the very beginning that my goal with this is to encourage other developers to develop for Linux, so feel free to buy ZED and leave a comment saying you got it for Linux so that we can go and advocate. Love ya’ll ♥ “

 

I would like to thank Seth, Ryan, Jon and Chuck for taking time to answer the questions, some very interesting answers I enjoyed reading. For those interested, Chuck Carter also wrote a longer post on Steam about some of the troubles faced. It's quite an interesting read too.

If you enjoy relaxing narrative-driven games, that don't take what feels like endless hours to complete, you should put ZED on your list.

You can find ZED on Steam. It's also on GOG with a Linux version expected sometime soon.

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smantz0rZ 8 July 2019 at 2:19 am UTC
stanInteresting interview! I wonder why they are so enthusiastic about Linux though, that’s unusual.

Also I’m a bit confused as to why forum posts or comments saying "thanks for Linux support" are useful to convince publishers instead of the sales numbers they already have (or should have?).

Yo! Sorry for the late response, I was AFK with no interwebs.

I've discussed this in the past in a previous interview with BTRE. I used to play Unreal Tournament with a few guys who were huge Linux users and eventually got shafted by updated anticheat. It sucked, so I always wanted to make Linux-compatible games. Shoutouts to Dave and Jack.


They help because they allow us to say "These guys are supporting us!" when it's difficult to quantify numbers of platform sales otherwise. "These people are buying our product and interfacing with us" is a much better argument than "We're selling a game and hearing nothing"
smantz0rZ 8 July 2019 at 2:39 am UTC
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smantz0rZThey had a mistaken idea about what Linux gaming is as we know MANY devs/publishers do

What's that idea like?

Sort of the usual "nOboDy uSeS liNUx AnD itS tOo dIfFiCuLT tO mAkE GaMEs f0R yOu CaNT suPpoRt mUlTiPLe dIstrOs iN tHE saME uNiVersE!!1!" when the reality is that Linux indie gaming is more active/supportive than Mac indie gaming. Developing for Linux isn't necessarily a cakewalk always, but it's not as difficult as some people make it out to be. Hoping at some point it's profitable too.
Shmerl 8 July 2019 at 2:55 am UTC
smantz0rZDeveloping for Linux isn't necessarily a cakewalk always, but it's not as difficult as some people make it out to be.

Since you are working with Unreal Engine, do you have any idea how far along is this WIP item: https://trello.com/c/lzLwtb5P/124-vulkan-for-pc-and-linux

QuoteFull support for UE4’s high-end rendering features utilizing the Vulkan API on both Windows and Linux including parallel rendering to take advantage of all available CPU cores.

It's been sitting under "future releases" for a long time and it looks like Epic aren't doing anything about it.


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smantz0rZ 8 July 2019 at 3:45 am UTC
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smantz0rZDeveloping for Linux isn't necessarily a cakewalk always, but it's not as difficult as some people make it out to be.

Since you are working with Unreal Engine, do you have any idea how far along is this WIP item:

Unfortunately I can't make any public comments like "Hey! I recently talked with the people responsible for that and they're working hard!" but if I could, I would.
stan 9 July 2019 at 7:39 pm UTC
smantz0rZI've discussed this in the past in a previous interview with BTRE. I used to play Unreal Tournament with a few guys who were huge Linux users and eventually got shafted by updated anticheat. It sucked, so I always wanted to make Linux-compatible games.
I see, that’s great .

smantz0rZThey help because they allow us to say "These guys are supporting us!" when it's difficult to quantify numbers of platform sales otherwise. "These people are buying our product and interfacing with us" is a much better argument than "We're selling a game and hearing nothing"
That really makes no sense to me but ok, I’ll try to remember that.
Shmerl 9 July 2019 at 8:14 pm UTC
stanThat really makes no sense to me but ok, I’ll try to remember that.

It's quite simple in general. Comments are visible for potential developers. Your purchases from other developers aren't visible - that data is private. So if you want Linux ports, show demand by reaching out to developers directly. The more people do it, the better.
smantz0rZ 12 July 2019 at 7:41 pm UTC
stanThat really makes no sense to me but ok, I’ll try to remember that.

Schmerl has answered correctly as well, but the gist is that there are two things: One, people pester devs for Linux ports all the time, but then that doesn't translate into sales when the Linux version releases. ZED is looking to be one of those cases as well. People need to see the positive reinforcement of "they came through on this platform for us, we need to do this again" and it allows developers and others to know "Linux is putting food on the table for us."

ShmerlSo if you want Linux ports, show demand by reaching out to developers directly. The more people do it, the better.

There's an awful lot of people who 'demand' Linux ports an then when it comes time to buy, don't. The best way to show demand is to buy Linux versions that are on the market, show that you've bought them (reviews, comments, tweets, etc) and then go out and say "Look how successful Linux was on this game." That's what makes a difference.
Shmerl 12 July 2019 at 7:46 pm UTC
smantz0rZThere's an awful lot of people who 'demand' Linux ports an then when it comes time to buy, don't. The best way to show demand is to buy Linux versions that are on the market, show that you've bought them (reviews, comments, tweets, etc) and then go out and say "Look how successful Linux was on this game." That's what makes a difference.

Sure, for developers who already sell Linux games, that's an obvious way to do it. But I was talking about those who still don't. They can't see how other games are selling - that info isn't shared with them. So the only way for them to analyze demand are some requests from potential buyers. A more advanced version of that is crowdfunding, when demand is demonstrated by the number of backers (especially if there is also some poll for preferred platform in advance).

By the way, recently Supraland developer pointed out, that GOG doesn't show sales/downloads per OS for developers. That looks like a major problem for them to estimate such demand at least on GOG.

See: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/release_supraland_aec23/post64

Do you know why GOG are not providing such info?

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tuubi 12 July 2019 at 8:43 pm UTC
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smantz0rZpeople pester devs for Linux ports all the time, but then that doesn't translate into sales when the Linux version releases.
Does that mean our purchases aren't worth it to you unless they happen right after the Linux release? I mean, I was happy when I learned that ZED was coming to Linux, and it does look great, but so do most of the other ~140 games on my wishlist. Yours is in the top ten though, and I will definitely buy it at some point in the not-too-distant future. Although I have to admit it dropped down a couple of places when I learned about the lack of focus on puzzles, as elaborate puzzles are what I think of when I hear someone mention Myst or Myst-likes.

If you meant that Linux gamers are less likely to buy something they say they will, or more likely to "pester" devs than Windows or Mac gamers, I doubt you can actually back that up with anything solid.
Cyril 13 July 2019 at 12:21 pm UTC
Ok, so just to say it, I bought the game on GOG as promised.
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