The issues in my opinion, aren't that there was an article about this stuff, I mean it's not like a gaming news site has to be strictly about releases and updates and only that (I mean we talk about drivers and tools too in the articles right?), this too is about gaming, and a game that supports linux, there's no reason not to report on it.
The problem here is that when Liam posted this article he picked a side, rather than just making a neutral article about it without giving up if he agrees with voidpoint or the sjws, he sided with the sjws in this case. So naturally whoever is not on that side will get pissed, myself included.
Since we're pissed we want to vent that somewhere, but here's the other problem, the actually bigger issue here, is that Liam also locked the comments preventing us from doing just that, essentially stating his opinion and then denying to hear anything about what anyone else had to say about it; at least in the comments for the article.
If Liam had just stayed neutral about this, and let us argue among ourselves in the comments like usual, we wouldn't be having a problem here.
But the way in which this was handled, people who disagree with liam's take on the matter feel silenced in a community they like and consider themselves a part of. That is not a nice feeling and of course those affected would feel mad about it.
Then again, maybe this wouldn't have been so bad if the comments were unlocked, when Liam fired off this article, it was like an explosion, and when he locked the comments, he tried to contain that explosion in a box, but the box couldn't take that pressure and blew up in his metaphorical face. If he had only just left the comments open, people could have vented about this, talked about this, told liam how wrong they think he is, and told those guys how wrong they are about liam being wrong, but instead, the people who could not vent their anger over the issue at the issue at hand, turned on the next target, which was liam, the poster of the article, and gamingonlinux, his website. Kaboom.
If this kind of shit keeps happening, then I will probably just leave too, like a lot of others, but leaving over one mistake is a bit extreme.
Like rkfg, I come here for linux gaming related news though, not to have propaganda and political opinions shoved down my throat. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice... And I'm outta here.
CestarianLike rkfg, I come here for linux gaming related news though, not to have propaganda and political opinions shoved down my throat. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice... And I'm outta here.
I am not fond of slashdot type moderation either. Far from promoting "quality" comments they simply favour dominant opinions. It actually goes in the direction of censorship. Plus you end up pushing off base banalities. The larger your public is, the worse are the promoted banalities.
I have no experience in reddit.
DedaleI am not fond of slashdot type moderation either. Far from promoting "quality" comments they simply favour dominant opinions. It actually goes in the direction of censorship. Plus you end up pushing off base banalities. The larger your public is, the worse are the promoted banalities.
Liam DaweIf people don't like it, they can leave [...] and start their own site
namikoLiam DaweIf people don't like it, they can leave [...] and start their own siteAh, the YouTube defence. Classic strategy.
A poll on extremes is pointless as most people don't want any extreme. For a valuable result you need add an option in between. Like say, I think it is being handled fine the way it is. That was intentional though wasn't it? I don't want either option and have no reason to vote. Never locking comments ever and having a completely open forum just doesn't work. You end up with comment sections like some current "news" organizations whose comment sections are almost nothing but hate filled, racist, misinformation distributing moronic dribble. They just highlight the worst that our society has to offer. Free speech means you have the right to voice your opinion, it doesn't mean people are forced to listen to you or allow you to post those opinions on their forums or other venues. If you want people to listen to you, you have to find people that want to listen to you, not try and force people to listen to you. There are places that let people say pretty much anything.
Personally, I'm more than happy for racists, bigots and free marketeers to vote with their feet and go away. Good riddance, I say. I find it ironic that those who label other people as "Social Justice Warriors" tend to be heavily armed and willing to inflict violence on others, whereas those who are labelled as "SJWs" tend to be the least warrior-like people imaginable.
Power to the peaceful, as Michael Franti often sings.
CestarianThe problem here is that when Liam posted this article he picked a side, rather than just making a neutral article about it
namikoIf I had the time, tech savvy, hardware, money, and sanity available to do such a thing, why the hell would I make suggestions in the first place?
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