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There are good conversations to be had about abandonware, expiration dates on copyright, whether the money is going to the right people, etc.
But I don't like reducing that conversation to just "I just don't wanna pay for anything and I don't need any further reason than that." I think that's wack, and if everyone else were to think that way, how do creators make a living?
Honestly, I'd have more respect for y'all if you'd just said "I know it's not cool, but I live in this capitalist hellscape too and my budget is limited sometimes." Do what you gotta do, but I don't like pretending it's ethical.
I mentioned that I see it as ethical to not purchase a product and not use it when I disagree with technologies used within like forced Denuvo, Kernel-Level anti-cheats and excessive third party launchers which may hinder my ability to use the product.
You will literally have the normal people telling you that you're being unreasonable for choosing not to choose to purchase a product for these reasons.
I think a key aspect that those normal people forget is that you are the customer and you have an ethical right to choose not to purchase that item. After all, the product is supposed to be made to interest you, and if it doesn't then, it doesn't. Just because someone wants to get paid for it does not oblige me to buy the game and play it.
I am a pirate and I am also a paying customer.
So, let me ask you:
If I purchase a video game and then that video game gets updated to include technologies that prevents me playing it on Linux (my only OS) before I have had time to play it, is it unethical for me to then crack the game allowing me to continue using the product I have legally purchased? Or is the company unethical for intentionally locking me out of using the product I paid for, without offering refund?
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I think this is valid. You did pay for it.
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You are right, I should've added that I recommend not breaking the laws. I also think that creators are well within their rights to get paid for the software they make if they wish to. But my opinion is still that "piracy" is largely a trumped up red herring especially in rich western countries, and for the second/third world the strategies that most of the big companies employ (and let's face it, they are the drivers, gaming is driven like the rest of entertainment industry by marketing/hype) make gaming a prohibitively expensive hobby anyway, not that these companies care too much for the sales there. (unless you don't care about saving some money for important stuff)
Last edited by dvd on 27 October 2024 at 10:05 am UTC
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Last edited by Liam Dawe on 28 October 2024 at 4:06 pm UTC
But as I get older and the world has changed now you can buy an original game on Steam or GOG for a couple of bucks you can buy a good game, also the prices has gone really up and if you can afford an 1K gig to play games you should be able to pay full price of a game.
But as I said, mixed feelings about this, I know is not correct BUT I also know a lot of people that couldn't afford it.
As someone living in Argentina, I am not very fond of anarchy, and more precisely its capitalist variant since I am experiencing it in my own flesh grow some responsibility steam and co, ffs.
(I know that in other countries steam charges VAT but not over here... they are cheap bastards and dont want to establish a tax address)
Last edited by Koopa on 30 October 2024 at 4:03 am UTC