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Looks like Subnautica from the Natural Selection 2 developers won't get Linux support
By const, 25 August 2016 at 10:31 am UTC Likes: 1

Quoting: lucifertdarkActually from what I've seen for some games using Unity it IS as simple as pressing a button to port it to Linux, but I'm willing to haggle the point.

From my own experience - it's sadly not really simple.

As an example - In one case, I had segfaults because of the structure of my UI-System (based on the then relatively new UI-system). It would run perfectly in editor-mode and as a windows executable.
You hit the linux button and it compiles, but the resulting executable produces a segfault somewhere in the UI-Interpreter.
Debugging such a thing can be really frustrating, especially since the Linux-version of the Unity-Editor is still terribly immature itself. It's easier to deactivate parts of your UI System and search for the component that causes the failure. You then have to iterate through all kinds of alternative setups, till it works.
In most cases I found that I indeed had not used the system in perfect accordence to the spec, but it was not my code that caused the segfault - it was content I created with the editor and only caused problems in my linux build.
That's why - for bigger and complex projects - having a linux executable in QA from the start of development is really necessary to have a smooth export. If the "port" fails after you made some changes, you can guess where to look for the problem. If you just hit the button on a finished project and some obscure interpreter-errors occur, bug-hunting can become really really troublesome.

Funny thing - the windows builds of the problematic states always ran flawlessly in wine.

Looks like Subnautica from the Natural Selection 2 developers won't get Linux support
By Ehvis, 25 August 2016 at 10:28 am UTC

Sometimes these things can change very quick. It wouldn't be the first time that one of the programmers is experimenting with Linux and exports it and finds it works pretty well. It is a Unity 5 game, which is apparently not that hard to get working.

And as others have said. If it's not released, there are plenty of other games to play these days. No sense worrying about this one.

Looks like Subnautica from the Natural Selection 2 developers won't get Linux support
By const, 25 August 2016 at 10:07 am UTC

Quoting: PublicNuisanceDisappointing but oh well. Plenty of other games worth supporting.
Quoting: ElectricPrismReleasing on Linux isn't only about including ever piece of the pie or capturing a cult market for PR, SEO, or entering a market with little competition to dominate a genre, it's also about immortalizing your game.

Do you really think any publisher has interest to immortalize their games? Publishers probably hope for the next big, incompatible platform they can rerelease and resell their classic games for.
That's why Steams cross-platform sales might not completely be a positive thing. It definitely helps to keep new users satisfied, but for publishers -> A small platform where a big part of the user base already owns the licence means even less money.

Looks like Subnautica from the Natural Selection 2 developers won't get Linux support
By lucifertdark, 25 August 2016 at 9:52 am UTC

Actually from what I've seen for some games using Unity it IS as simple as pressing a button to port it to Linux, but I'm willing to haggle the point.

Looks like Subnautica from the Natural Selection 2 developers won't get Linux support
By Eike, 25 August 2016 at 9:06 am UTC Likes: 1

Quoting: chuzzle44"it is not as easy as clicking a button"

Well pardon my French, but no shit, really? I seriously question the intelligence of a developer that would think it was that simple.

I would guess this is aimed at all those none-developers who actually think it's that easy. You can find lots of them in the Steam forums...

Looks like Subnautica from the Natural Selection 2 developers won't get Linux support
By micha, 25 August 2016 at 8:53 am UTC

Quoting: chuzzle44"it is not as easy as clicking a button"

Well pardon my French, but no shit, really? I seriously question the intelligence of a developer that would think it was that simple.

I don't mean to be a jerk, but with how rampant this line of thinking seems to be, I'm starting to wonder if most of these developers know what the hell they are doing. Has game development become so dumbed down that any idiot can throw together a game? We've certainly heard this line a few to many times.

The worst part is that I have actually seen quite a few incompetent fools bring their "games" to Linux. It takes a special kind of stupid to completely back yourself into a corner, knowing from the beginning that you shouldn't.

I would like to apologize for my rant of a comment, but I can't be the only one who's frustrated by this.

First the article mention the tweeter as a developer but in the tweets he clearly states not being a programmer.

In my experience is code departments are typically pressured into feature deadlines. So when they are doing overtime already even those interested in ensuring a Linux version works have no energy left to do that. An production people usually have no interested in an OS which doesn't generate much money compared to having a new feature which is supposed to make the game much better (which then drives more sales).
My point is, rarely are the developers/coders themselves to blame. If any they are pushing for it out of interest.

Deus Ex: Mankind Divided looks like it may be getting a Linux & SteamOS release
By -Daniel-Palacio-, 25 August 2016 at 8:41 am UTC

Small tip: Giveaway here, if you're interested.

Looks like Subnautica from the Natural Selection 2 developers won't get Linux support
By Cybolic, 25 August 2016 at 8:39 am UTC

Well, I hope they do get back to getting it running on Linux at some point as it really does look like a game I would like to throw some money and time at.

Deus Ex: Mankind Divided looks like it may be getting a Linux & SteamOS release
By Beamboom, 25 August 2016 at 8:02 am UTC

Oh man I hope they haven't broken an otherwise great game with microtransactions... If so I will never forgive Square Enix!

Looks like Subnautica from the Natural Selection 2 developers won't get Linux support
By lucifertdark, 25 August 2016 at 7:53 am UTC Likes: 2

I knew it wouldn't be long before the fabled 1% figure would rear it's ugly uninformed head yet again, no-one knows what percentage of Steam users are on Linux because the survey is NOT accurate & never has been, unless they shove it out to every steam user all at once they'll never know how many Linux users there are, but it's damn well more than 1% that's for sure.

Valve turns 20 years old today, happy birthday! A brief look at their Linux history
By Seegras, 25 August 2016 at 7:31 am UTC

Quoting: MikePrior to the Steam client on Linux I was dualbooting with Windows. Since 2013, I use only Linux to work and play. Even if barely 25% of my Steam library is available on Tux's OS, those 56 games are enough to keep me entertained.
I've been using the Windows steam-client with wine on Linux. Initially about a third of my collection on steam ran on Linux (mostly steam-keys from humble bundle and such), but now two thirds run natively. And of the rest, around 80% runs with wine.

Anyway, thank you Valve!

Valve turns 20 years old today, happy birthday! A brief look at their Linux history
By skinnyraf, 25 August 2016 at 7:29 am UTC

Quoting: PublicNuisanceI may prefer DRM free games over Steam these days but even I know I have to thank Valve for it's dedication to Linux. If they hadn't supported Linux then the likes of GOG, Itch.io, etc may not have either.

Is Steam an equivalent to DRM though?

Yes, Steam provides DRM for developers that wish to use it, but many games come with DRM independent from Steam and there are games on Steam that don't use any DRM and you can start them directly by running the executable.

Looks like Subnautica from the Natural Selection 2 developers won't get Linux support
By skinnyraf, 25 August 2016 at 7:10 am UTC Likes: 1

Quoting: FratmI'm just tired of the empty promises. We have had a lot of them lately. It's down right dishonest of the developers to claim they will support our platform, and then after all the hype they dump it.

-Fratm

Most of those promises happened back when it seemed that Valve cared about SteamOS, GabeN announced that Linux is the future of gaming and Steam Machines were The Next Big Thing, together with the Steam Controller. When Steam Machines and SteamOS were all but abandoned by Valve, Linux market share remained stuck at less than 1%, many companies revisited these plans.

I don't think it is dishonest, they anticipated a trend that didn't materialise, so they adjusted their strategy. Sure, it would be nice if all these developers admitted that openly.

I'm kind of fine with it, as there are enough games which were actually released on Linux. Witcher 3 is the only huge disappointment for me :(

Mighty No. 9 is now actually live on both Linux & Mac
By darkszluf, 25 August 2016 at 7:07 am UTC

Quoting: amelcherHonestly never know what I can or cannot say so I just stfu and work ;-).

I do pretty much the same , great way to keep your job ^_^

New trailer for first-person horror game Syndrome looks good, Linux supported
By coeseta, 25 August 2016 at 6:51 am UTC Likes: 2

To me it looks a bit like doom 3 and dead space had a baby :P

Humble Indie Bundle 17 released
By -Daniel-Palacio-, 25 August 2016 at 6:32 am UTC Likes: 2

One small note: Regency Solitaire wasn't listed as a game with Linux support, despite having a DRM-Free build. I contacted the developer and now it's correctly featured.

Looks like Subnautica from the Natural Selection 2 developers won't get Linux support
By nepo, 25 August 2016 at 5:13 am UTC Likes: 1

I bought this game before migrating to Linux - it has a fresh setting and really beautiful graphics. With VR support it could be amazing! Today I do only buy games which are already available for Linux - I don't spend money on promises any more... :-/

Mighty No. 9 is now actually live on both Linux & Mac
By Dolus, 25 August 2016 at 4:18 am UTC

Quoting: amelcherHonestly never know what I can or cannot say so I just stfu and work ;-).

Any ETA on the Humble store version?

Mighty No. 9 is now actually live on both Linux & Mac
By no_information_here, 25 August 2016 at 3:32 am UTC Likes: 2

I always appreciate your ports, Aaron. I look forward to checking this one out.

I have avoided all the hype, so hopefully the game stands on its own. I have no history with Mega Man so I have no particular expectations going in.

Looks like Subnautica from the Natural Selection 2 developers won't get Linux support
By sunbeam4, 25 August 2016 at 3:26 am UTC Likes: 1

unless I've missed something, this looks more like bullying.
let them finishing their game first. they've got plenty on their table. and it's not like we're lacking on games to keep us busy in the meantime. it's fairly sensible to no promise, something that may not come along.

Looks like Subnautica from the Natural Selection 2 developers won't get Linux support
By slaapliedje, 25 August 2016 at 2:39 am UTC

It's kind of sad being a Vive owner. Not only is this game currently not slated to come for Linux (so no reason to buy yet), but it supports the Oculus Rift and not the Vive, so another reason not to buy it. It does look pretty cool though. Too bad.

For the earlier comment about 'any idiot can make a game now'. Yeah, pretty much. There are some 15 year olds on the Vive reddit who are making games for VR! Granted they're potentially cooler than a lot of the stuff coming out of AAA studios.

Mighty No. 9 is now actually live on both Linux & Mac
By amelcher, 25 August 2016 at 2:17 am UTC Likes: 5

Honestly never know what I can or cannot say so I just stfu and work ;-).

Mighty No. 9 is now actually live on both Linux & Mac
By psycho_driver, 25 August 2016 at 1:58 am UTC

Quoting: amelcherYup this UE3 port was easily the toughest job I've done.

So were you under NDA so that you couldn't say anything regarding the porting process until the work was accepted and published or was it just decided to keep quiet until things were ready? It's kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

Mighty No. 9 is now actually live on both Linux & Mac
By amelcher, 25 August 2016 at 1:36 am UTC Likes: 7

Yup this UE3 port was easily the toughest job I've done.

Mighty No. 9 is now actually live on both Linux & Mac
By melkemind, 25 August 2016 at 12:37 am UTC Likes: 1

Quoting: shigutsoFinally... I wonder what took them so long :(
I backed this game on Kickstarter and I regret it a little after seeing all the bad reviews.
But oh well, no turn back now, let's play and try to enjoy it :P

They actually said what took so long: porting their iteration of Unreal Engine 3. That's probably why Rocket League still hasn't been released. Devs underestimate how much of a mess it is to port because Epic never released an official Linux version.

Looks like Subnautica from the Natural Selection 2 developers won't get Linux support
By s8as8a, 24 August 2016 at 11:29 pm UTC Likes: 1

This seemed like a game I would probably have enjoyed . . . if they ever change their minds, I will re-consider buying it.

Looks like Subnautica from the Natural Selection 2 developers won't get Linux support
By Fratm, 24 August 2016 at 10:37 pm UTC Likes: 2

I'm just tired of the empty promises. We have had a lot of them lately. It's down right dishonest of the developers to claim they will support our platform, and then after all the hype they dump it. In the case of subnautica, I too have tried to get them to talk to me about this game and the Linux port, and got zero responses until today.. I honestly was shocked by the fact that they actually responded and by their response.

-Fratm

In Case of Emergency, Release Raptor released into Early Access, yes this is a real game
By PublicNuisance, 24 August 2016 at 10:35 pm UTC

Its got a good concept but I am patient enough to not buy it in early access. If they can improve it then they may win me over.

Looks like Subnautica from the Natural Selection 2 developers won't get Linux support
By PublicNuisance, 24 August 2016 at 10:32 pm UTC Likes: 2

Disappointing but oh well. Plenty of other games worth supporting.