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Quoting: hummer010I already own both of them on GOG. Hopefully it doesn't take too long for the Linux version to show up there...

I doubt that will happen. This isn't the first time Topware releases a Wine-Wrapped game for Linux on Steam, of which none have appeared on GOG. Most likely the reason for this is that they're relying on Steam Runtime for them.

Which they can use on GOG just fine: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime/blob/master/COPYING

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I am fairly skeptical when it comes to "Wine ports", but for a euro I decided to give it a shot. Performance on NVIDIA Quadro K1100M is around 30 FPS at 1980x1080, which is playable, but not great by any stretch for a game from 2009. So far I have not noticed any problems that would indicate that it is not a native port. Though Wine developers deserve more credit for that than anybody else.

Regarding the game itself, the voice acting is hilariously bad. Everybody sound like robots. Especially your own character. "I do not have sufficient time. Resistance is futile." Yeah, I see why they would not want to invest in a proper native port.

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I've watched a couple of Let's Plays of this game, and it looks quite interesting. I might buy it some day.

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QuoteWill I get a Steam key?

– It depends when you bought the game. If you bought the game on or before November 4, 2014 you will get a key when the game is released on Steam. If you bought the game after that, we will try to get you a Steam key but Valve’s policies prevent us from being able to guarantee this.

So I probably need to buy it again to have mod support through steam.

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Quoting: TheGZeusTested the beta. Ran just fine on Intel Skylake Mesa drivers.

It's a terrible game, but it runs well.

Got it cheap a couple years ago. Yech.
YECH.

It's just terrible. The only option for success is to cheese the awful, broken mechanics. The animations are terrible. Running it widescreen stretches the models. The acting is laughable.

Watch ProJared's video on this game instead of playing it, unless you love schlock.

Well, I disagree here.
I got this game reluctantly because of the bad reviews and expected this terrible experience as you say and well, I was pleasantly surprised.
It is definitely not a masterpiece or something I would recommend without hesitation, but terrible it is not. I'm having quite a fun with it so your experience (including widescreen issue) doesn't quite match mine.

I understand that you and many others don't like the game, but that doesn't make it a bad game for everyone else.

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Tested the beta. Ran just fine on Intel Skylake Mesa drivers.

It's a terrible game, but it runs well.

Got it cheap a couple years ago. Yech.
YECH.

It's just terrible. The only option for success is to cheese the awful, broken mechanics. The animations are terrible. Running it widescreen stretches the models. The acting is laughable.

Watch ProJared's video on this game instead of playing it, unless you love schlock.

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Quoting: Lightkeylidstah: The GPU is old (several generations behind but still supposedly 20 times the computing power of the Pandora GPU), the driver is proprietary and thus poorly maintained. Several features of the OMAP5 have been "descoped" (deprecated) because they don't work right anymore or never worked right from the beginning. At least there are still a few developers over at Texas Instruments that try to help, there were already a few Pyra-related changes to the Linux kernel lately. The only thing that is better than with the Pandora is that the kernel driver is open source this time, so they hopefully will not be stuck with an outdated Linux version again.

Ah, thanks for the info Lightkey. The situation indeed seems better than with the Pandora.

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i haven't graphics problems:
1)max resolution is 1024x768
2) fullscreen mode not work, if i set fullscreen, game reamins windowed
3) performance problem with ubuntu 16.04 and AMDGPU driver (A10 8700p with radeon r6 carrizo)

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RimWorld seems to be heading a similar direction as Dwarf Fortress in some senses. It's a VERY good game.

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Quoting: sigzAt least if the game reaches 60fps, it's enought to be played.

I agree, somebody can explain how is possible to see a difference between 60fps and 200 fps ?

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i am happy with the framerates mostly. While framerates arent too high, frametime (latency) seems to be really good, just like with GRID autosport. Its smooth.

made some benchmark video also:

View video on youtube.com


49 fps average while not recording, 43 when recording with nvenc
37 fps minimum while not recording, 24 when recording with nvenc

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Quoting: hummer010I already own both of them on GOG. Hopefully it doesn't take too long for the Linux version to show up there...

I doubt that will happen. This isn't the first time Topware releases a Wine-Wrapped game for Linux on Steam, of which none have appeared on GOG. Most likely the reason for this is that they're relying on Steam Runtime for them.

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I bought and played the game a while ago and liked it. Definitely, want to get back to it and now content/features will make it more likely.

All the best with your campaign and search for a publisher!

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Wine is just fine for older games, as long as the performance is ok and the game is playable. I hope this isn't just a release-and-abandon game and that they will support it for a while, solving game-breaking bugs like this

There's also the side effect that the more older games use Wine, the better Wine itself becomes :D

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I guess people don't remember this:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/two-worlds-ii-to-get-major-engine-upgrade-new-dlc-and-steamos-linux-support.6893

Two Worlds 2 will be native.

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They've fixed WINE support! So they do care about us.

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We have to give credit to the developer that it was very responsive to the requests of the users during the beta period: we asked for CSMT and we got it, no DRM, etc. and we got it. Was a very right way to doing things.
I played the game for 34 hours without a problem (some crashes, but it was crashing also on Windows), then I got bored, because it is not a fantastic game. But there aren't similar games right now on Linux, so one more is ok.

The sequel, Two Worlds II, works also very well in WINE + CSMT, so I expect they'll do the same sort of port, which is IMHO a good thing if the results are so good.

Why games are so cheap? They are old games, the studio who developed them died, there aren't costs to support, seems so natural to me to sold them cheap.

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Quoting: Nyamiou

Quoting: HoriRemember the days when Steam itself wasn't availabile on Linux? How was the community coping with the lack of games back then and why is it complaining about delayed ports now? I think we've got soooo over ourselves since Valve started investing in Linux, and that's not good, not good at all.

There was no Linux gaming back then, it wasn't even a dream.

I don't know where you were, but there actually WAS a Linux gaming scene in the late 90s and early 00s, before Steam even existed. I used to be able to walk into any of the EB Games stores in Toronto at the time and buy retail copies of Linux games, such as Quake 3 Arena, Kohan: Immortal Sovereigns, Hereoes of Might & Magic III, Myth 2: Soulblighter, Rune, Tribes 2, Railroad Tycoon 2, and others. Ryan Gordon worked for Loki, and then he went solo, and brought out many other games, and a few other devs did Linux games as well. Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, Neverwinter Nights, Unreal Tournament 2003, etc. Hell, I could even find Linux distros and software (StarOffice, Corel WordPerfect, etc) for sale in some stores, like Staples. It was a great time, but short-lived.

Will the Linux game market crash again? Possibly. Very possibly. But just as I did back in the early 00s, I am doing the only thing I can do - avoid purchasing any Windows games, and buying only games released for Linux. This is my part; I am doing it. If everyone else did too, we might stand a chance. There are more of us nowadays.

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I already own both of them on GOG. Hopefully it doesn't take too long for the Linux version to show up there...

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For that price it's a sure buy, if only to support the idea of putting older games to Linux. I don't care how they get it to run, as long as it just...runs. Which is normally the reason why I am avoiding Wine like the plague as really nothing just "runs" with Wine, but if the prepackage it in a way for me that it feels like a native game, that's ok in my book.

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If it is even remotely as good as the original XCOM, it'd be an instabuy for me. ^_^

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Quoting: HoriRemember the days when Steam itself wasn't availabile on Linux? How was the community coping with the lack of games back then and why is it complaining about delayed ports now? I think we've got soooo over ourselves since Valve started investing in Linux, and that's not good, not good at all.

There was no Linux gaming back then, it wasn't even a dream. But that doesn't mean we can accept to go back there, we have fought to get where we are now and we will fight to get where we should be, nothing is going to stand on our way. Waiting patiently for devs to notice us is not going to cut it, if we don't ask for a port it's not going to happen, and if we don't complain when it's not in time they are just going to forget about us. Maybe one day it will be easier, but for now this how things are.

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Just bought collection now on steam, pretty cheap. Already own number 2 so hopefully they do something with that on linux.

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I play it at work. Now that I am on summer break I guess I won't be playing it until August unfortunately =) Can't wait for the steam release though.

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Hi Liam,

Like you, I had some trouble with screen resolution. I had to revert back to Nvidia 364.19 driver since the latest beta driver 367.18 seems bugged with xrandr, the main tool for changing display resolution.

Furthermore, their standalone wine is configured to use fullscreen instead of a virtual desktop, that brings some weird bug with driver. I managed to get rid of this, thanks to their RunWinetricks script that sets up automatically all the custom environment variables.

Launch this command line inside "Two Worlds - Epic Edition" directory
./RunWinetricks vd=1024x768
That will set up a 1024x768 virtual desktop, and then you will be able to change resolution in game to suit your need.

@ Segata Sanshiro
It works great with Steam Controller.

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I was literally about to purchase this when I saw there was no controller support. An RPG is something I like to sink a lot of time into if it's good and just don't see myself doing that hunched over a desk, shame :(.

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Aw yiss!

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I only tried the first one a long time ago and the game mechanic of being resurrected at a shrine that you hadn't discovered yet completely killed it for me. I would die in a fight I couldn't handle, and then transport further away from town into a deadlier area? It was terrible.

My younger brother played the second one and he said it did the same thing. This sounds like they heard it worked under Wine and figured they would resell it. Meh, cheap/pretty game for is. I did read they had fixed a lot of the complaints at least. Not sure where I read that at.

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Awesome game and I have enjoyed what I have played so far. Not being a huge tactical shooter fan normally but this I really enjoyed. Spent a lot of time dying!

So much potential, it would be a shame to let it go to waste! Just watching and waiting now like many others I would say :)

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sounds good, can't wait to check it out.

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