Quoting: FictionbrainI don't think it'll have VR support for Linux: https://steamcommunity.com/app/233610/discussions/0/135512305401859168/#c2949168687313272972 [External Link]

Oh nooooes :(

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Quoting: liamdaweAs someone who doesn't have VR hardware, I can safely say it's a fantastic experience without it.

Oh by all means, I'm sure! I just am harvesting good excuses to finally get me a set. This is self-convincing hard at work here buddy. :)

Quoting: Lonsforits not a "VR title" is a normal game with a vr option

Bah, semantics. It's a title to be counted for when we list games playable in VR.

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... And yet another VR title to arrive on our shores. That in itself is very welcome. Not that I have Vive yet, but for each title I'm one step closer to purchase. In essence all that's left now is to hear reports that the support has matured.

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Quoting: LeopardPeople on Linux don't buy games

Why do you bother stating such obviously wrong claims? Why are you even here, on a site with pretty much only Linux gamers buying games (with the possibly single exception being you).

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Quoting: razing32I get what you meant about the stereo now. Still pre-built PCs are a thing.

... Not when the PC performance ratrace continues the day after the purchase. Then you buy a machine that's outdated shortly after purchase (essentially when the next BIG title kicks in that utilise the latest gen GPUs. Typically a title the average games wants to play). If all the software were built for that particular prebuilt PC, *then* it would be comparable.
I just can't stress this enough, because it's a core reason why consoles has become as large as they are.

Quoting: razing32Just feel the consoles may seem to solve the issue and to some extent do , but it just feels like a wasted investment in my opinion.

I were of the same opinion as you, until GTA4 came out and I just could not be arsed to wait for the PC version, I was too big of a fan of the franchise. So I purchased GTA4 bundled with a PS3 :). And eight years later I can firmly reassure you that those few hundred dollars were well spent, weighted in hours of entertainment.

Quoting: razing32The one thing I feel consoles lose most on is MODS.

Yup that is a loss. And player made maps etc.

Quoting: razing32Also let's not forget one little detail . The company that makes the console has complete control over publishing on said console.

True. But to be bluntly honest here - I don't really think one miss out on much. Pretty much all titles of a certain magnitude/significance ends up on consoles - or arrive there first. But if one is interested in the undergrowth/underground of the gaming world, or are after very very niche stuff, then PC is the natural direction to seek.
Also, a huge share of the "retro gaming" are (or at least used to be) on PC only. If that's your cup of tea the choice is obvious.

As for me, I was long dreaming of Valves "Steam boxes" to establish a kind of hardware "generation" reference due to their popularity, and maybe bring some, if only a few drops, of that console longevity/hardware optimisation over to the PC world. That would have been wonderful, imo.

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Quoting: razing32B)Please don't put words in my mouth. I am not a PC elitist.

I didn't say you were. I were talking in general, about those elitists who do have that attitude towards console gamers. They annoy me.

The comparison with a stereo were simply to illustrate that a console is a box that do deliver as intended for their entire lifespan. That is the purpose. A console owner do not want to fiddle with upgrades. It's not why they buy a console. They buy a console much like they buy a toaster, or TV, or stereo: They just want it to work, unaltered and unmaintained, for their intended life span. So from their perspective, the "not upgradeable" is an argument for, not against, purchase.

And quite frankly - for me personally that is one of the most appealing sides of console gaming. One purchase and you're done for a long time, without missing out on anything.

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Quoting: razing32With consoles you can A)Never upgrade

... And that is also a blessing. In fact, I'd say that's one of the arguments FOR. Keep in mind that a console doesn't cost more than just a GPU on PC. That is a core point here. And the prospect of purchasing a machine that will stay relevant within that sphere for... 8 years? All new games will run smooth on that machine for almost a decade ahead. With the cost of just a graphics card. Some would say that is a good deal, and I would agree with them.

It's like buying a stereo for your livingroom. You don't want to tear it apart and swap DAC or lasers or whatnot - you just want a box that works for the entire lifespan of that box. It's the same with consoles.

Quoting: razing32B)Not always have backwards compatibility

That's almost non existent. The principle is: One console, one pool of games. Next console, new pool of games.

There are absolutely arguments against consoles, just as there are against PC gaming. But I think it is important to maintain the nuances in these kind of discussions. To talk about consoles as "all evil" and their users as "sheep" or "dumb" - as many PC elitists enjoy doing - is just flat out stupid.

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Quoting: GuestJoke aside, it's a pity that Sony use his position to block a real cross-online multiplayer.
When you have family/friends that have PS4 or One and a game is available with cross-online play.. can't play with all but you can play with both. Really a shame. "For the Players", what a sick joke..

Yeah that is unfortunate, the platform competition is fierce and not very user friendly. It's worth noting that Microsoft did the same towards Sony though, back when they were on top (the PS3/x360 era). Back then Sony were the underdog, now it's Microsoft.

Quoting: razing32That's why i despise consoles.
They're nothing more than under powered, non-upgradeable gaming PCs that lock out intellectual properties (exclusives) and restrict cross-play(with exceptions).

I disagree with this - that's not ALL it is. The by far biggest advantage with consoles, is that the software by and large is written specifically for that platform - and that platform is the exact same on all machines so the optimising for that specific hardware can be maximised. That leads to ultra smooth experiences across the board that simply put we hardly ever experience on PC, even on hardware three times the cost of a console. Yeah it's more "PC in a console" now than before, true, but the differences are still significant. So even if they are less powerful on paper, the software makes far, faaaar better use of the power there is. The "add more hardware to the problem" attitude in the PC world is quite frankly a disgrace.

So I am a defender of consoles, albeit now being a PC gamer I was a console gamer myself in the PS3 era, and they do indeed serve a purpose and I cal totally understand those who chose to be so.
And some of the exclusives are simply astonishing in their polish and sheer production value. Let's just admit that too. Yeah yeah hate exclusives, etc. But as a gamer, some of them are simply marvellous to experience.

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That city view looked insanely tempting to zoom in and enter. I really do love the artwork in these games. To be honest I'm not a big fan of these kind of very strategic turn based type games, but I bought the first and will likely buy this one too, on looks alone. :D

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Quoting: BeamboomCross-platform support across ALL the platforms (including consoles)

It won't, like Fortnite and many games with Sony platform.
It will be PC (Linux, macOS and Windows), Xbox One, Switch and Mobile (when or if it really come to) OR PC (Linux, macOS and Windows), PlayStation 4 and Mobile (when or if it really come to).

So either Xbox or PS. I see a PS4 controller in the video so I assume PC + PS4 + mobile then. Alright, sure, I can live with that. It's still a whole lot of additional players and bodes well for this whole longevity of the game. I don't think I'll miss Xbone players. :)

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