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Quoting: SslaxxHow bizarre. Why would Epic want to support a rival project, commercial or not, open source or not?

Unless they're going by the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" principle...

Nothing Epic has been doing lately makes too much sense from a business perspective.

I think it's just because Tim Sweeney is still a programmer at heart. He's trying to compensate for that with seemingly badass business practices. Probably because he read in a book that that's how you do it.

But let's be honest: As soon as the Fortnite millions are missing, the EGS is over, because it simply lacks the business model. In the end, Sweeney pays publishers and customers to use his shop. Valve on the other hand is probably still in the black with its Linux commitment. This is the subtle but significant difference between programmer Tim Sweeney and GabeN the businessman.

But it's definitely wise to take the Epic money with you as long as it's there. Because there's just no future in it.

It's not necessary a "rival", it is a tool in the same sense as blender, maybe they see a use case (down the road) for it.

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Quoting: Adam_eMI cannot resist the feeling that it was basically a politically motivated decision. Linux version, worked flawlessly at all, and it was based on a multiplatform engine, so what makes them unable to support it further on actually? All those bells and whistles teased by psyonix? I won't go for a refund though, It's without any doubt - one of favourite games I had in my library. Playing it from day-1... I wonder if they're going to implement their anti-cheat solution, or what actually stops them from further support.

I think the whole announcement reeks of company speak for publisher (or new owner) told us to cease support.

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Quoting: legluondunet

Quoting: dvdIf that were true, their whole operation would have had to be in the red for the last few years. All the games i have from Feral worked with wine before they were ported. But having a port was always better than wine, even in cases like Hitman, that had some teething issues with the graphics.

"All the games i have from Feral worked with wine before they were ported"

Are you sure? It's not a long time Wine + DXVK support correctly Tomb Raider last episodes, Life is Strange 1/2, Middle-earth™: Shadow of Mordor™, DEUS EX....All this games was not very well supported by Wine when Feral port them natively on Linux.

Curious, i played LiS using wine before the port came out. I don't remember any game breaking bugs, apart from the occasional lag that was due to my laptop being ancient at the time. I can't speak for the rest, since i did not play them with wine, however i can say i wouldn't have bought either of them were it not for Feral interactive properly porting and supporting them. ( Only game i bought without port is Hitman 2 since i really really like Hitman and assumed it would get a feral port after they ported the first episode, but that's my bad. ) Maybe i'm doing something wrong, but apart from the very earliest linux ports (like portal 1 and 2) i have never ran into any compatibility problems with linux ports in the last 3-4 years whereas with wine (which i seldomly use) i usually run into some of the usual problems like alt-tab not working, games not exiting well, sound breaking.

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Quoting: legluondunet

Quoting: dvdNot everyone wants to play with wine.

But it will be commercially more pertinent for Feral to make a Linux port from a game that is not working with Wine.

If that were true, their whole operation would have had to be in the red for the last few years. All the games i have from Feral worked with wine before they were ported. But having a port was always better than wine, even in cases like Hitman, that had some teething issues with the graphics.

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Not everyone wants to play with wine.

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Quoting: GuestA PC does have endless value to a user but a £2000 gaming PC has zero value to the average every day user (95% of the market) beyond being able to play games. Stadia allows people to buy a £400 PC or laptop and still being able to play games and get the same value outside of that

I paid £1600 for my PC. I have a Ryzen 7 CPU, RX580 GPU and 32gb RAM; outside of playing games my PC is hardly pushed at all

I paid about 500$ for my pc and it plays most games reasonably well. I can even play a few tabs of hd youtube videos in the background while playing older games like wasteland 2, cs:go or pathfinder. This PC will probably serve me for at least another 4 years unless some hardware fails.

That's about the cost of only the stadia subscription for the equivalent period. Then you have to buy their hardware, which was advertised for 130$ iirc.

And then you have calculate the increase of the internet bill, since you probably need a better service.

If you are a student, and you can't afford your own place, chances are you have a few flatmates. In that case, you can say goodbye to the 'top' experience.

I think if you add these hidden costs together, you can probably buy a reasonably good pc and some games. Not to mention the premium of having customization options like mods. Those are a huge reason most people like Bethesda games for.

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I don't think these 'Stadia news' are overdone at all, even though i do not like the idea at all.

'Regular games' already make a criminal out of anyone trying to use a product, but always online and 'streaming' are just new ways of enforcement on the nonsensical legal agreements companies are forcing on users, especially with all the always on DRM the PSP and the likes are there to provide in conjuction with the new 'drivers' in the linux kernel that let it happen and undermine the spirit of free software.

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1. Skyrim
2. Cyberpunk2077
3. Hitman 2

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Quoting: GuestNothing surprising really. Valve's initial efforts on GNU/Linux were always a result of Microsoft's attempts to wall up everything. GNU/Linux wasn't ready for gaming at the time, but for a variety of reasons the potential started to appear and Valve kind of nudged (with a freight train) it along.

What's more surprising to me is Valve continuing. They won't be getting anywhere near a direct return on investments, at least I wouldn't think so, and it seems relatively little of their efforts are tied into Steam itself. Helping drivers, graphics, VR, etc, benefits more than Valve - it does help non-Steam users too. So maybe it's more about continued pressure on Microsoft than anything else.

Just me thinking out loud.

I think continuing the effort also gives them an advantage, on one hand, if the user count grew, they would become the "google play store" of video games on linux, but they probably also benefit with gaining influence and connections with the various projects they throw their money and employers behind.

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Quoting: haikuThis port is useless, it arrived way to late and the game is running fine via Proton :|

Guess all the people who call out linux gamers asking for linux support on the steam forums to stop using the inferior linux os and start using the - in every way - superior windows os were right after all, since it seems like even the "linux gamers" on GoL are commenting under every article mentioning a linux port how it's useless and they want to play the windows version with an unsupported compatibility layer. Pretty amazing.

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