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[Rant]: RX 5700... a frustrating experience
Plintslîcho commented on 18 January 2020 at 9:16 pm UTC

Thanks tuubi.

Shmerl commented on 18 January 2020 at 11:44 pm UTC

PlintslîchoFor those owning a Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 5700 card, does it have zero fan function?
If so, does it work out of the box with the amdgpu driver?

Prices for the RX 5700 are dropping at the moment, which makes it tempting to get one.

Yes, it does. It often stops fans for me under low load. GPU temperature at that point can be around 50°C. When it goes above, fans turn back on.

You can also define your own fan curves with radeon-profile if you want.

Last edited by Shmerl on 18 January 2020 at 11:46 pm UTC

Tuxee commented on 19 January 2020 at 4:54 pm UTC

PlintslîchoFor those owning a Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 5700 card, does it have zero fan function?
If so, does it work out of the box with the amdgpu driver?

Prices for the RX 5700 are dropping at the moment, which makes it tempting to get one.

When working on the desktop my Sapphire's Pulse RX 5700 fans don't turn.

Shmerl commented on 27 January 2020 at 1:22 am UTC

If anyone in EU is looking for Navi cards on sale, see:
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-Sapphire-Radeon-RX-5700-XT-Pulse-8G-GDDR6-HDMI-TRIPLE-DP-OC-W--BP--_1324347.html

Last edited by Shmerl on 27 January 2020 at 1:23 am UTC

sub commented on 27 January 2020 at 9:07 am UTC

ShmerlIf anyone in EU is looking for Navi cards on sale, see:
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-Sapphire-Radeon-RX-5700-XT-Pulse-8G-GDDR6-HDMI-TRIPLE-DP-OC-W--BP--_1324347.html

I bought exactly that card from exactly that shop and I'm more than happy with it.
No issues so far. Arch, Kernel 5.4.

As you said there are important Navi fixes in 5.5, what improvements are (apart from overclocking support) to expected from the 5.5 kernel release?

Plintslîcho commented on 27 January 2020 at 7:45 pm UTC

The price for the XT version might have come down a bit lately. But for the ordinary 5700 version it has just increased noticeable again, probably because it was too close to that of the just released 5600 cards.

Shmerl commented on 28 January 2020 at 1:46 am UTC

subAs you said there are important Navi fixes in 5.5, what improvements are (apart from overclocking support) to expected from the 5.5 kernel release?

A few freeze fixes, but they possibly were backported to 5.4.x too, I didn't follow that.

sr_ls_boy commented on 15 February 2020 at 5:53 pm UTC

This is a bad review of the current situation with the drivers on windows.
There some AMD fanboys that are saying this isn't so, but are overwhelmed.

Shmerl commented on 16 February 2020 at 2:07 am UTC

Good opportunity for Windows AMD users to switch to Linux.

Tuxee commented on 16 February 2020 at 9:45 am UTC

More than 3 months have passed now, so it's safe to assume that the situation as become better, right? Unfortunately this has not happened.
Setting up a Ubuntu 20.04 (yes I know - it's still two more months till release, but the symptoms are the same I had with 19.10).
No additional PPA, the stock Navi BIOS that comes with the distro, no additional "sensors package" installed, Kernel 5.4, Mesa 19.3.3. Just OOTB.

2 out of 3 boots give me


...
[    3.356136] amdgpu: [powerplay] smu driver if version = 0x00000033, smu fw if version = 0x00000035, smu fw version = 0x002a2f84 (42.47.132)
[    3.356137] amdgpu: [powerplay] SMU driver if version not matched
[    3.370207] amdgpu: [powerplay] SMU is initialized successfully!
...
[    6.885145] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: PowerDownVcn (44) response 0xffffffc2
[    6.885185] [drm:amdgpu_dpm_enable_uvd [amdgpu]] *ERROR* [SW SMU]: dpm enable uvd failed, state = false, ret = -62.
...
[   11.748578] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00000000 response 0xffffffc2
[   14.224396] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00000000 response 0xffffffc2
[   16.705128] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00020000 response 0xffffffc2
[   19.185534] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00020000 response 0xffffffc2
[   21.617719] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00000000 response 0xffffffc2
[   23.985283] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00000000 response 0xffffffc2
[   26.462730] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00020000 response 0xffffffc2
[   28.940680] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00020000 response 0xffffffc2
[   31.203724] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: NumOfDisplays (64)  param: 0x00000002 response 0xffffffc2
[   33.417301] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: NumOfDisplays (64)  param: 0x00000002 response 0xffffffc2
[   35.906984] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: NumOfDisplays (64)  param: 0x00000002 response 0xffffffc2
[   38.386750] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: NumOfDisplays (64)  param: 0x00000002 response 0xffffffc2
[   40.866718] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: SetMinDeepSleepDcefclk (34)  param: 0x00000010 response 0xffffffc2
[   43.346588] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: SetMinDeepSleepDcefclk (34)  param: 0x00000010 response 0xffffffc2
[   43.346590] amdgpu: [powerplay] SMU11 attempt to set divider for DCEFCLK Failed!
...
[   47.525853] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00000000 response 0xffffffc2
[   50.000548] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00020000 response 0xffffffc2
[   52.476361] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00020000 response 0xffffffc2
[   54.689797] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: NumOfDisplays (64)  param: 0x00000002 response 0xffffffc2
[   56.903180] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: NumOfDisplays (64)  param: 0x00000002 response 0xffffffc2
[   59.379406] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00000000 response 0xffffffc2
[   61.855812] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00000000 response 0xffffffc2
[   64.330326] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00020000 response 0xffffffc2
[   66.805799] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00020000 response 0xffffffc2
[   69.018673] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: NumOfDisplays (64)  param: 0x00000002 response 0xffffffc2
[   71.231672] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: NumOfDisplays (64)  param: 0x00000002 response 0xffffffc2
[   73.710662] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00000000 response 0xffffffc2
[   76.190010] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00000000 response 0xffffffc2
[   78.657504] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00020000 response 0xffffffc2
[   81.138088] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00020000 response 0xffffffc2
[   83.617616] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00000000 response 0xffffffc2
[   86.096937] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00000000 response 0xffffffc2
[   88.574473] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00020000 response 0xffffffc2
[   91.051993] amdgpu: [powerplay] failed send message: GetMaxDpmFreq (31)  param: 0x00020000 response 0xffffffc2


The remaining 30 to 40% of the boots run smooth and I end up on the desktop after a few seconds. The above boot also ends up on the desktop eventually (after around 45 seconds), but for example launching steam gives another slew of powerplay fails with the delays that go along with that.

BUT: Even when things go smoothly, Rise of the Tomb Raider gives me 30fps in the benchmark (already had that with Ubuntu 19.10), with no powerplay fails. On the contrary an 18.04 Ubuntu with Mesa 19.3 from the Kisak PPA and the 5.3 distro kernel gives me 140+ fps - about 5 times more.

Bottom line: If things change not dramatically in the next few weeks an RX 5700 will be unusable in a fresh Ubuntu 20.04. By that time the GPU will have been on the market for nearly a year. AMD - why can't you get your shit together?

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