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Collabora's FOSDEM videos are up, including one on putting Linux games in Containers on Steam
By elmapul, 25 February 2020 at 6:35 am UTC

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Liam Dawe
elmapulthings like this make me want to give up developing for linux...
Ah yes: Developers try to make things easier to deploy across all distributions.

You: I give up.

Makes sense.

first off, if that is the easier way that they are proposing, i cant imagine how hard it was before, plus i cant afford to run that solution, containers will dry out my limited performance.

second, valve supposedly solved this issue already, why do we still need this solution?


either its impossible to solve it once and forever, or it dont worth the performance cost.

in any case, i dont like how it sounds, the way things are, looks like someone is causing problems to sell the solution.
as they say, when the service is free, you are the product, with so many distros breaking backward compatibility with then selves or evolving into different directions that cause problems to support all of then without standards and clear benefits to that fragmentaiton, the only thing i can think off is that its sabotage, really.

its just ridiculous that we had 4 different browser engines (gecko, trident, presto, webkit) and things just worked in all of then. (nowadays, most browsers just use webkit/bink, because its cheaper than continuing developing their own code base, not because things broke all the time) if even microsoft could agree to follow some standards (web standards) there is no reason why the opensource world has to be that mess.

and before any one say that browsers arent as complex as an operating system, we can run entire operating systems inside one browser, there is no excuse.

So Valve never solved the issue, they just pushed the more difficult problems a bit further down the line. All the issues being seen right now were apparent when Valve took their Runtime route, but they had to try something.

Desktop development is a moving target. Libraries are updated, glibc gets updated, kernel gets updated, etc. Sometimes the ABI for some library changes, and any game that relies on it also breaks. Games suffer more visibly from this because so many of them are proprietary binaries, whereas the majority of software in a distro is actually open source and be simply recompiled to fix some breakage, or patched easily to fix others.

And while a Good(tm) developer can minimise risk of breakage, properly package their games, keep dependencies to a minimal, that's actually an increased barrier to development that is not desirable. There's no easy way to bundle games on a GNU/Linux system for those not as familiar with it, and guarantee that the game won't break on a whim in a couple years.

Web standards are completely different to library dependencies. I would suggest that's not a good analogy.

great, lets just shift the blame, its not the operating system fault that all aplications stop working after an update, its the applications fault that they didnt future prof then selves against whatever bullshit was in the mind of the os vendor when he issued the update patch.
i wonder what is the point of an operating system by that point.

not to mention that if we accept things like that, why would canonical change their behavior or anyone else? just break it and shift the blame to some one else, its definitely not our responsability.

i can agree that the aplication developers are responsible to some extent but they arent the only responsible for it, an good operating system should make sure that the aplications work for as long as its possible, otherwise the "good" developers will waste their time fixing stuff that shouldnt have broke instead of adding new features and fixing the bugs created by then instead of some thirdyparty.

" because so many of them are proprietary binaries" many open source games stoped working after some updates in the past, some times for stupid reasons like
"dependence x version 2.8.3 changed the name for 2.8.4"
being proprietary has nothing to do with it.

". There's no easy way to bundle games on a GNU/Linux system for those not as familiar with it, "
well, package managers were created, among other things, to stop aplications from distributing their own depencences, duplicating the used space on disk, looks like it was pointless since we are doing it anyway to solve the issues caused by package managers and the complete lack of standards of what comes included with an distribution and what not.
not to mention that we have 1% of the marketshare on the desktop, and deskop is just 1/3 of the incoming of an game (i'm not including mobile games here, they are an different type of game)
then we have to support one thounsand distributions and the end user will send us (or the solution on google, for) an error message in the system languague that they use, instead of english.
combine all that with problems that only occur in certain software, and you explain why almost no one codes/uses for linux.

that is why, we cant put the full blame on the aplication developers, they are the weakest link in the chain.
users can simply change the software, or the operating system (go back to windows)
companies like canonical dont give a fuck about desktop anymore, their money come from companies, especialy big ones like pixar.
so who will be the scapegoat the and be blamed when things stop working?

What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By Xaero_Vincent, 25 February 2020 at 6:09 am UTC

Been playing several games recently and have so many more I haven't played to completion or started:

Batman Arkham Asylum (Wine/Proton)
Batman Arkham City (Wine/Proton)
Watch Dogs 2 (Wine/Proton)
The Talos Principle (Native)
Bioshock Infinite (Native)
Metro 2033 Redux (Native)
Slime Rancher (Native)
Half Life 2 (Native)
Darwin Project (GFNVM)
Destiny 2 (GFNVM)
Fortnite (GFNVM)

*GFNVM: GeForce Now on Linux via an Android virtual machine.

NVIDIA talk up bringing DirectX Ray Tracing to Vulkan
By Purple Library Guy, 25 February 2020 at 6:08 am UTC

This has been a really interesting conversation to read, although I have to admit I don't know enough to have a good handle on who might be right about what.

What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By SirLootALot, 25 February 2020 at 3:02 am UTC

I got that humble bundle just for Slay the Spire. Very addictive.

Some early thoughts and exploration in The Longing, a game that takes 400 days to finish
By razing32, 25 February 2020 at 12:01 am UTC

Comandante ÑoñardoVery interesting concept....
Imagine a game like Fallout 4 with this time setting: Even if you quit the game, things happen in the game while you are absent.

You reminded me of some VERY old games
My friend had a very bad PC in college. He would play old games like Need for speed 3 and such.
One of the games hep layed was called Virtual Villagers - it was a casual god game thing
The thing was , the villagers would go hungry , age and die in your absence - probably based on system clock

Humble Store has a 'Tabletop Sale' going, some good Linux games on offer
By razing32, 24 February 2020 at 11:59 pm UTC

scaineI can vouch for Deep Sky Derelicts. I only did one playthrough, but it was 13 hours of mainly pure joy. Great tactical battles and some nice synergies to take advantage of. For a fiver? Highly recommended! The first hour is pretty slow though, so give it a chance to shine.

Why is humble listing it as windows only ? Mistake on their part ?

Space Grunts 2 shows how versatile a deck-builder can be and it's good
By Aurelien, 24 February 2020 at 10:36 pm UTC

Ah ! I wish this kind of game on my Android .... :3

Humble Store has a 'Tabletop Sale' going, some good Linux games on offer
By scaine, 24 February 2020 at 8:46 pm UTC Likes: 1

I can vouch for Deep Sky Derelicts. I only did one playthrough, but it was 13 hours of mainly pure joy. Great tactical battles and some nice synergies to take advantage of. For a fiver? Highly recommended! The first hour is pretty slow though, so give it a chance to shine.

What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By namiko, 24 February 2020 at 7:50 pm UTC

Been playing a combination of Stardew Valley, Euro Truck Simulator 2 and Everspace. That combination of games sounded less weird in my head... Also trying to finish the Act 1 demo of Missing Stars on the old lappy when I get in the mood/time.

Totally loving how you're rewarded more for exploration in Everspace, I'm not happy unless I can see every interesting-looking pixel in a 3D game. Takes a while to adapt to the controls, but runs perfectly with Steam Controller, using a slightly modified layout to switch the stick and Left D-pad controls, it's better for RSI purposes.

Should also take the time to play Talos Principle and Portal 2 again for the Co-op because neither of them would have worked until we got a proper AMD graphics card.

Popular free rhythm game 'osu!' now provides a Linux build with releases
By D3SOX, 24 February 2020 at 7:07 pm UTC

setzer22
QuoteI tried the release and it runs very smooth. I would like to play it but I can't set the area for my XP-Pen Star G640. It works fine since Linux 5.0 but the whole tablet area is mapped to both of my monitors. I want to map a custom tablet area to one monitor, so I can play the game. On Windows I use https://github.com/hawku/TabletDriver for it. If anybody knows a good alternative please contact me. (I tried changing the libinput Coordinate Transformation Matrix without success)

I made this script quite a while ago. With it you can restrict any X pointer (including your digital tablet) to a screen mouse region: https://github.com/setzer22/restrict-tablet, not only to a given monitor, but to any screen region!

Thank you! It works fine but now I need to find out how to select the area on the tablet

RimWorld 1.1 is out with a first expansion with RimWorld - Royalty
By stickyparadigm, 24 February 2020 at 6:42 pm UTC

I bet this game is really good but I just can't get over the horrible art style.

Some early thoughts and exploration in The Longing, a game that takes 400 days to finish
By Comandante Ñoñardo, 24 February 2020 at 5:39 pm UTC Likes: 1

Very interesting concept....
Imagine a game like Fallout 4 with this time setting: Even if you quit the game, things happen in the game while you are absent.

What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By crt0mega, 24 February 2020 at 4:59 pm UTC Likes: 1

After years of waiting my gf and I decided to buy Divinity: Original Sin 2 last year, even though there's still no Linux port in sight. I don't really expect one, to be honest. I've also been playing some Diablo III by myself. This one won't see a Linux port neither, I presume.

None of these are Linux games, but my big Pile o' Shame won't get any smaller if I ignore all the other gifted or bought Windows games. :L

What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By TheReaperUK, 24 February 2020 at 4:55 pm UTC

iiari
TheReaperUKAnd also Terminator: Resistance (Proton)
What do you think of that title so far? Videos I've seen of gameplay have been mixed...

I like it and am on my 4th run though of the game, It's running always at 60hz with v-sync on with all graphics options cracked right up on my I7-6700 and RTX 2060, also it has never crashed and runs great.

Gameplay wish it's a little like Dying Light with out the Parkour or big open world levels, You got lock-picking, search for stuff to trade, search for stuff to craft with, Skill levels to upgrade, also terminator weapons can be upgraded with special chips you get from killing robots, Stealth bits, and shoot lots of robots.

Mission based levels with side mission and also you can explore to find more stuff to trade/craft/ammo/etc.

Graphics do the job but could have been better, NPC models are some what hit or miss at some animation parts plus as other have said on steam the eye's are so big, but if you want a light version of dying light but with robots and no parkour and love terminator 1 and 2 (the game is set between the 2 movies) then you may like it.

NVIDIA talk up bringing DirectX Ray Tracing to Vulkan
By sub, 24 February 2020 at 4:37 pm UTC Likes: 1

tuubi
suba rather crappy game (Terminal Velocity?) that came with the card.
I had a lot of fun with that game and a flight stick.

Sorry, I take it back. ;)

Canonical need a little testing hand for a newer Steam package on Ubuntu 20.04
By slaapliedje, 24 February 2020 at 4:12 pm UTC

Cyba.Cowboy
slaapliedjeThe problem is that budget headsets (especially the crappy phone ones) give VR a terrible reputation.

I disagree - I have PlayStation VR and for a "cheap" virtual reality headset, it's pretty good (yes I have compared it to the HTC Vive Pro - I work in a family entertainment center and we use them in a commercial context).

In all honesty, the only problem with my PlayStation VR is that the resolution is "just" 1080p and unlike the Vive Pros, I find that I get motion sickness / headaches pretty easily, which by my understanding, is mostly due to the refresh rate of the headset... That's a very minor point to address in a future product.

Okay, PlayStation VR is designed to run only on Sony "PlayStation 4" products - but it's still a virtual reality headset competing for the same space, so I guess it's a step in the right direction...

I'm actually surprised no one has managed to get PlayStation VR working under Linux-based operating systems yet - aside from the fact that the "PlayStation 4" products run a FreeBSD-based operating system (which in many ways is very similar to other "'nix" based operating systems), it actually uses "standard" connections (USB and HDMI).

Interesting side note, PlayStation VR works as a giant screen - without the "virtual reality" part - under Linux-based operating systems "out-of-the-box" (like every good geek, this was the first thing I tried when I bought my PlayStation VR)!
PSVR isn't the cheap ones I was referring to. I was talking about the sub-100 dollar ones you put your Phones into. Ha, I literally bought my PSVR to watch 3D Movies on because it is supported right out of the box and you have to do janky things on the PC to get them to work.
The Valve Index at 120hz is what it sounds like you need.

Edit: I watched the full talk by one of the hackers that got Linux working on the PS4. He said it is very not-PC, as it is missing a lot of architecture bits that are assumed to be present on a PC. I thought there was a special connwction that goes from the PSVR box to the PS4, but not sure, I would have to look at mine. But still, PSVR is still kind of crap compared to the Vive and beyond.

Deck-building card battler 'Dreamgate' is out in Early Access
By g000h, 24 February 2020 at 4:01 pm UTC

Very tempted to get Dreamgate, as I loved both Slay The Spire and Fate Hunters. Currently it is at 20% discount on Steam (as I type this).

What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By g000h, 24 February 2020 at 3:49 pm UTC

OrkultusBeen playing Dying Light recently. It had been a while since i tried it, and after i started it up, i noticed that the performance had gotten way way better. I am also loving this new story mode feature.

Out of interest, are you playing the native Linux version or forcing the Windows version to play using Proton?

Deck-building card battler 'Dreamgate' is out in Early Access
By Salvatos, 24 February 2020 at 3:27 pm UTC Likes: 1

This is Fate Hunters if anyone else is wondering.
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Seems like an odd situation. It looks more like a Hearthstone clone to me.

What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By mahagr, 24 February 2020 at 3:11 pm UTC

I've been playing Kingdom Come: Deliverance (Proton 5). I got it from a bundle and I totally ignored it as not being interesting until someone said that I should play it.

Yup, it has to be one of the best games I've ever played and it runs just fine in Linux as long I don't torture myself with ultra high quality on 4K (runs fine on tweaked high settings with HD texture DLC). I've had to kill the game twice as it got stuck, but I guess it would have had the same bug also in Windows...

Get ready to live a Life of Crime with Kingpin: Reloaded announced by 3D Realms - will be coming to Linux
By slavezeo, 24 February 2020 at 2:28 pm UTC

Heck, I had no idea it was still being updated. This will be next on the road to play Kingpin.

What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By Dunc, 24 February 2020 at 2:27 pm UTC

kaimanI kinda wish for a steering wheel and pedals (my old set has long since been trashed), but it seems an excessive investment for just one game, so a gamepad must make do.
Oh, I hear you. I mean, for me it would be F1, Project Cars and Dirt Rally. And I'd probably end up playing them more than I do now. So I'd get a lot of use out of them. But it's still a lot of money to sink into what is, when all's said and done, a toy.

Oxygen Not Included still 'fully in development' with first DLC hopefully this Autumn
By 14, 24 February 2020 at 2:27 pm UTC

Nice timing alongside the RimWorld news. ;)

RimWorld 1.1 is out with a first expansion with RimWorld - Royalty
By 14, 24 February 2020 at 2:21 pm UTC

I've been looking forward to 1.1.
The surprise expansion is interesting.

What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By Dunc, 24 February 2020 at 2:20 pm UTC

Fallout 4. I dunno. I tend to agree with Shamus Young: it's a decent enough game, but it's not Fallout. I came to the series with F3, but even in that game I could see that Bethesda's take on it doesn't make sense. It's 200 years after the bombs fell. Who are these feckless morons who haven't even cleared away the skeletons from the buildings they're living in? Sheesh. And after the Big Plot Twist (which I won't give away, although you can see it coming a mile off), I kind of lost interest in the main questline. There's certainly plenty of other stuff to busy yourself with though, and I thought Far Harbor was surprisingly good. They should have made that the main game.

I bought South Park: The Stick of Truth over the weekend, on sale. (For the price of a sandwich, as Ross Scott - Freeman's Mind, etc. - puts it. It's a good way of looking at it, I think. ) So far, I'm seeing Costume Quest with fart jokes. Sounds good to me.

And slightly OT, because it's about as far from Linux as it gets, but for some reason I found myself going back to Mirror's Edge, Rez HD, OutRun Online Arcade (offline these days, of course), and Space Giraffe on the XBox 360 yesterday afternoon. I hate to admit it because, well, Microsoft, but that's definitely my favourite console of all time. It just is.

NVIDIA talk up bringing DirectX Ray Tracing to Vulkan
By tuubi, 24 February 2020 at 2:16 pm UTC

suba rather crappy game (Terminal Velocity?) that came with the card.
I had a lot of fun with that game and a flight stick.

Get ready to live a Life of Crime with Kingpin: Reloaded announced by 3D Realms - will be coming to Linux
By whizse, 24 February 2020 at 1:37 pm UTC

Patching the game to the latest version might help, but maybe you already tried that?
http://download.kingpin.info/index.php?dir=kingpin/patches/official/

To get around the hard lock, try using software rendering with LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1

What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By kokoko3k, 24 February 2020 at 1:18 pm UTC

Finally enjoying (a lot) Shadow tactics:Blades of the shogun and Stardew Valley.
The first is absolutely appealing, on the second one.. i can't say yet if i'll continue playing for much longer.

What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By Pangaea, 24 February 2020 at 1:18 pm UTC Likes: 1

Late to the party at 9 pages, but recently I've played The Witcher 3 modded with Ghost Mode. Great fun, and a lot more challenging than the vanilla game.

Before that I had a long stint with Stardew Valley.

What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By tonR, 24 February 2020 at 1:18 pm UTC Likes: 1

No time to playing any game. 2 days and 2 nights (and still counting) non-stop watching our "political soap-opera" marathon (and no sign this "episode" will be ended).

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