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After initially being rejected by Valve, The Expression Amrilato is now live on Steam
By Salvatos, 26 June 2019 at 5:51 pm UTC

Purple Library GuyThe most compelling case I've seen for Esperanto was as an easily-learned sort of "middle layer" diplomats and translators could use, like at the UN or whatever. Computers are arguably making such middle layers obsolete, and I've noticed that manga translations that are two step kind of suck anyway. So even that niche is pretty iffy.
Any translation that needs to pass through intermediary translations is definitely going to lose something in the process. Translation is always a lossy conversion, so to speak, and while you can keep the gist of the meaning through several conversions, you inevitably lose and gain subtleties with every layer, which can end up making a significant difference. Despite that, it is very common for companies (and open source projects) to translate their source material to English first, and from English to all other languages, because it's easier and/or cheaper to find translators for a language pair that includes English.

I would also expect Esperanto to have the same problem as Latin, for instance, and lag behind neologisms (which, in many industries, originate from English or are popularized by it) as well as lack the cultural identity to adapt to idioms and cultural references without sounding stilted. Just look at how much English is seeping into other natural languages because they can't keep up with all the new terms and agree on local equivalents before the anglicisms take root. How many languages use "e-mail" as is although it would be rather trivial to translate the words "electronic mail"?

I feel like if you're going to pepper your speech with English words because they either don't exist in your intermediary language or you don't know them, you might as well just learn English.

That said, I don't exactly have anything against Esperanto or learning it. I've always wanted to learn Latin at some point, and God knows that would be useless.

ZED from Eagre Games and Cyan Ventures is out for Linux now, it’s quite an experience (plus an interview)
By tumocs, 26 June 2019 at 5:47 pm UTC

QuotePlatforms like Proton and Lutris are beginning to make WINE obsolete.
I know what he's trying to say there but it's still quite funny.

After initially being rejected by Valve, The Expression Amrilato is now live on Steam
By Purple Library Guy, 26 June 2019 at 5:44 pm UTC

Desum
Purple Library Guy
DesumSome balk at the utility of leaning Esperanto, but it has been shown that learning it as a first additional language makes learning subsequent natural languages (at least European languages) much easier.
As I understand it, learning any additional language makes learning subsequent languages easier. So how much more easier does that language being Esperanto make it? Unless the differential was huge, or you were planning to learn a lot of languages, I suspect that any gains would not be big enough to make up for the time actually spent learning Esperanto.
Like I mean, if learning any second language made subsequent languages 20% easier, and if it's Esperanto subsequent languages are 30% easier, then you'd break even at around 10 languages . . . and that's if the effects don't even out as you add languages.
The most compelling case I've seen for Esperanto was as an easily-learned sort of "middle layer" diplomats and translators could use, like at the UN or whatever. Computers are arguably making such middle layers obsolete, and I've noticed that manga translations that are two step kind of suck anyway. So even that niche is pretty iffy.

That said, I tend to think Esperanto is cool and doesn't really need an excuse. Not as cool as, say, Quenya or Sindarin though. And not cool enough in any of those cases for me to want to actually learn them.

Learning Esperanto is easier than almost any natural language since it lacks most of the quirks and inconsistencies most languages that develop naturally have. It's also a mix of many European languages, which makes it particularly useful to learn before Romance, Germanic, or even Slavic languages. As for time spent, look at my second post. Child A who spends two years learning Esperanto and then three years learning Spanish will likely out perform Child B who spent the full five years on Spanish.
I'd want more than one study, and some pretty meticulous rigor, for a claim that outlandish; that's way too big an effect to be believable. It defies logic to say that I would not only be helped in my study of subject A by studying subject B, but actually learn more about subject A by studying subject B than by studying subject A.

Educational studies are notoriously tricky. They've found enhanced results for practically any kind of new and different pedagogical approach, basically because any time the teachers and students think they're doing something special, they work harder and have better attitudes. So if you believe the studies, all the approaches are vastly superior to, well, each other.

ZED from Eagre Games and Cyan Ventures is out for Linux now, it’s quite an experience (plus an interview)
By Corben, 26 June 2019 at 5:29 pm UTC

smantz0rZI talk to a lot of other developers who say "How are you getting hundreds of wishlists on Linux?" and I say "you're not?" and they say "no!" -- "Well, are you building for Linux?" "...no" - "Maybe that's why you're not getting the engagement then."
Seems obvious, doesn't it?

But that's pretty cool to read, so those devs you talked to seem to have some interest in our favorite platform. Nevertheless, I've heard from other devs, that their sales are more like what the e.g. steam hardware survey shows. There are exceptions of course, like Helium Rain, who shared some numbers and wrote to have 10% Linux sales. Which is awesome!

I guess it depends on the game, for small studios a Linux version is often worth the effort, for those huge studios maybe not, at least not percentage-wise. Maybe with Stadia it might change a bit, as studios have to develop for Linux. And if it's not a Stadia exclusive, why not also get the Linux sales on e.g. Steam (fingers crossed for Destiny 2 )

ZED from Eagre Games and Cyan Ventures is out for Linux now, it’s quite an experience (plus an interview)
By Sojiro84, 26 June 2019 at 5:23 pm UTC

smantz0rZ
Sojiro84I also support developers that make a Linux version. Thanks for the interview.

Thanks. The best thing you can do is leave a review/comment for the developers on Steam to tell them "thank you" for the Linux release. This allows someone like me to return to our publisher, who wanted to ax the Linux version but keep Mac, and say "This is why you build for Linux, and you should make your future games for Linux as well."

I will do that for sure!

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By iwantlinuxgames, 26 June 2019 at 5:03 pm UTC

since we're requesting stats we'd like added, i think some storage media stats would be interesting(at least they would be to me): type(ssd, pcie nvme, hdd, floppy(ok, not really on the floppy )), amount(GB,TB,PB),RAID(0,1,5,10,:hardware HBA, mobo fakeraid, linux software raid, LVM).

then i could brag aboit the Areca 1231-ML 12 port raid hba i'm phasing out with m.2 pcie nvme sticks

ZED from Eagre Games and Cyan Ventures is out for Linux now, it’s quite an experience (plus an interview)
By smantz0rZ, 26 June 2019 at 4:26 pm UTC Likes: 5

Sojiro84I also support developers that make a Linux version. Thanks for the interview.

Thanks. The best thing you can do is leave a review/comment for the developers on Steam to tell them "thank you" for the Linux release. This allows someone like me to return to our publisher, who wanted to ax the Linux version but keep Mac, and say "This is why you build for Linux, and you should make your future games for Linux as well."

Black Mesa now has a "Technical Beta" for Xen, but Linux support is missing for now
By Termy, 26 June 2019 at 4:25 pm UTC

The trailer looks really slick - although i did enjoy xen back in the day, i'm really curious what their interpretation feels like

ZED from Eagre Games and Cyan Ventures is out for Linux now, it’s quite an experience (plus an interview)
By smantz0rZ, 26 June 2019 at 4:25 pm UTC Likes: 3

EhvisBut from the Steam discussions a big question remains for me. Can I rebind the WASD (and other keys) to something that actually works for me?

Soon. This is in a future quality-of-life update. Arrow keys also work.

ZED from Eagre Games and Cyan Ventures is out for Linux now, it’s quite an experience (plus an interview)
By smantz0rZ, 26 June 2019 at 4:24 pm UTC Likes: 5

CorbenWhere does this impression come from? From all statistics I've seen, Linux is never 5x the market of Mac.
1) Thank so much for backing.
2) From Wishlists and general community engagement and traffic we've had from our Kickstarter to Discord, Linux has represented at minimum 5x the users. There aren't that many Mac gamers, and one thing I get from other devs is that they don't open their wallets as much either.

I talk to a lot of other developers who say "How are you getting hundreds of wishlists on Linux?" and I say "you're not?" and they say "no!" -- "Well, are you building for Linux?" "...no" - "Maybe that's why you're not getting the engagement then."

After initially being rejected by Valve, The Expression Amrilato is now live on Steam
By Desum, 26 June 2019 at 4:22 pm UTC

Purple Library Guy
DesumSome balk at the utility of leaning Esperanto, but it has been shown that learning it as a first additional language makes learning subsequent natural languages (at least European languages) much easier.
As I understand it, learning any additional language makes learning subsequent languages easier. So how much more easier does that language being Esperanto make it? Unless the differential was huge, or you were planning to learn a lot of languages, I suspect that any gains would not be big enough to make up for the time actually spent learning Esperanto.
Like I mean, if learning any second language made subsequent languages 20% easier, and if it's Esperanto subsequent languages are 30% easier, then you'd break even at around 10 languages . . . and that's if the effects don't even out as you add languages.
The most compelling case I've seen for Esperanto was as an easily-learned sort of "middle layer" diplomats and translators could use, like at the UN or whatever. Computers are arguably making such middle layers obsolete, and I've noticed that manga translations that are two step kind of suck anyway. So even that niche is pretty iffy.

That said, I tend to think Esperanto is cool and doesn't really need an excuse. Not as cool as, say, Quenya or Sindarin though. And not cool enough in any of those cases for me to want to actually learn them.

Learning Esperanto is easier than almost any natural language since it lacks most of the quirks and inconsistencies most languages that develop naturally have. It's also a mix of many European languages, which makes it particularly useful to learn before Romance, Germanic, or even Slavic languages. As for time spent, look at my second post. Child A who spends two years learning Esperanto and then three years learning Spanish will likely out perform Child B who spent the full five years on Spanish.

After initially being rejected by Valve, The Expression Amrilato is now live on Steam
By Purple Library Guy, 26 June 2019 at 4:10 pm UTC

DesumSome balk at the utility of leaning Esperanto, but it has been shown that learning it as a first additional language makes learning subsequent natural languages (at least European languages) much easier.
As I understand it, learning any additional language makes learning subsequent languages easier. So how much more easier does that language being Esperanto make it? Unless the differential was huge, or you were planning to learn a lot of languages, I suspect that any gains would not be big enough to make up for the time actually spent learning Esperanto.
Like I mean, if learning any second language made subsequent languages 20% easier, and if it's Esperanto subsequent languages are 30% easier, then you'd break even at around 10 languages . . . and that's if the effects don't even out as you add languages.
The most compelling case I've seen for Esperanto was as an easily-learned sort of "middle layer" diplomats and translators could use, like at the UN or whatever. Computers are arguably making such middle layers obsolete, and I've noticed that manga translations that are two step kind of suck anyway. So even that niche is pretty iffy.

That said, I tend to think Esperanto is cool and doesn't really need an excuse. Not as cool as, say, Quenya or Sindarin though. And not cool enough in any of those cases for me to want to actually learn them.

Steam Summer Sale 2019 is live, here’s what to look out for Linux fans
By edmondo, 26 June 2019 at 4:02 pm UTC

PatolaAs of me, I highly recommend the deep space trade sim X4: Foundations (and just ignore the bad ratings, these crybabies are all wrong).

Here we go, I already waited too long. X4: Foundations added to my library.

After initially being rejected by Valve, The Expression Amrilato is now live on Steam
By Desum, 26 June 2019 at 3:58 pm UTC

tmtvl
DesumSome balk at the utility of leaning Esperanto, but it has been shown that learning it as a first additional language makes learning subsequent natural languages (at least European languages) much easier.

Well, according to J. H. Halloran, "A four year experiment in Esperanto as an introduction to French":

Quote[...]among the more intelligent students, the best success in French was among those who began it immediately.[...]
[...]Those who began with Esperanto achieved a better "passive knowledge" and those who began with French acquired better "active use."[...]

Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any research available on the benefits of Esperanto for learning languages that don't fit into the Germanic or Romanic language groups (e.g. Finnish, Vietnamese, Arabic).

Still, for most people who haven't yet picked up a couple of additional languages Esperanto seems pretty easy and useful to pick up, so it may still be worth a look... if this game floats your boat it may be useful.

Esperanto's grammar is actually basically Slavic whereas most of it's lexicon is Latin/Germanic based. And I did say (granted, inside brackets) that it seems to help with European languages, not languages in general. There was a study that showed that young children who learned Esperanto for two years and then Spanish for three, tended to have a better grasp on it than children who only learned Spanish over the course of five years.

Here is a relevant TEDx talk on the subject: https://youtu.be/8gSAkUOElsg

Black Mesa now has a "Technical Beta" for Xen, but Linux support is missing for now
By MayeulC, 26 June 2019 at 3:58 pm UTC

Highly anticipated. I just rewatched the trailer, it is looking gorgeous as ever. Also, I just noticed the HEV zombie at 0:46

ZED from Eagre Games and Cyan Ventures is out for Linux now, it’s quite an experience (plus an interview)
By PublicNuisance, 26 June 2019 at 3:43 pm UTC Likes: 1

I will be buying it once the Linux version hits GOG. Glad to see it finally got done at all.

After initially being rejected by Valve, The Expression Amrilato is now live on Steam
By tmtvl, 26 June 2019 at 3:40 pm UTC

DesumSome balk at the utility of leaning Esperanto, but it has been shown that learning it as a first additional language makes learning subsequent natural languages (at least European languages) much easier.

Well, according to J. H. Halloran, "A four year experiment in Esperanto as an introduction to French":

Quote[...]among the more intelligent students, the best success in French was among those who began it immediately.[...]
[...]Those who began with Esperanto achieved a better "passive knowledge" and those who began with French acquired better "active use."[...]

Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any research available on the benefits of Esperanto for learning languages that don't fit into the Germanic or Romanic language groups (e.g. Finnish, Vietnamese, Arabic).

Still, for most people who haven't yet picked up a couple of additional languages Esperanto seems pretty easy and useful to pick up, so it may still be worth a look... if this game floats your boat it may be useful.

Canonical have released a statement on Ubuntu and 32bit support, will keep select packages
By Jaromir, 26 June 2019 at 3:39 pm UTC

NanobangI admire the passion you and others have about this topic. I certainly wasn't arguing against you, merely saying---albeit in a glib, somewhat snarky way (sorry)---that the topic of Ubuntu/IoT/EMF---however important it may or may be---really has no place in a discussion of an article about Ubuntu's 32 bit support.

Please, let me explain. 5g may play a central role in Ubuntu Linux and EMF disease, as you say, and I'm not saying it doesn't nor that it is or isn't an important issue. I'm saying that it's an issue that's considered separate from what this article is about.

This article is about Ubuntu's most recent position on 32 bit support and NOT anything else about Ubuntu. We'd say that the topic of the article (the article is about) is this particular, specific aspect of Ubuntu (32 bit support) and not Ubuntu in general nor any other aspect of Ubuntu.

Talking about Ubuntu's involvement with IoT (and subsequently EMF) is to discuss Ubuntu---yes---but because it's not about 32 bit support, it's not about the same topic, You see what I'm saying? IoT/EMF isn't what the article is about. We'd say IoT is a different, particular, and specific aspect of Ubuntu.---and so we'd say it's a different topic.

I'm trying to explain this to you on the off chance you are not a troll but simply don't understand why I'm saying IoT/EMF are off topic. I hope I helped.
I think I was the first to state that it was off-topic what I would write. And then you said an hour later that it was unrelated.

Here's the proof.

And now you answer that the issues I spoke of have no place in this discussion. But I already indicated this myself so I don't see your point.

Many messages on gamingonlinux.com and most of the forums are in any case a reaction to another reaction and often it has nothing to do with the discussion of the original article. By which I mean that I don't do anything special at all.

There is not much to say about the original subject (Ubuntu 32bit support).

Valve tries to save the linux desktop and one of the things that comes with it is stopping the official support of Ubuntu.

And I don't accuse ubuntu of anything, I have long understood that they want to go in a different direction.

Reminder: Update your PC info for the next round of statistics updates
By Patola, 26 June 2019 at 3:30 pm UTC

liamdawe
Patola
liamdawe
PatolaI wish it had more flexibility in the controllers part. Since we Linux users are not mainstream, it's quite useful to know when some other people have more unusual controllers, like HOTAS sets or steering wheels.
Suggestions? I am happy to make adjustments, but I can't act on vague stuff like that. What do you want changed/added?
Nothing too fancy, I think an extra field where you could enter a list of the devices you use would do.
I will think on this, that sounds like it would get pretty messy, especially to get some kind of chart out of it.
Just so that you understand what I mean. I mostly play games with my steam controller, almost through sc-controller and not steam's own driver/configuration. But for two specific games - Euro Truck Simulator and American Truck Simulator - I bought a G29 steering wheel with pedals and shifter. For space sim games I like to try and use my HOTAS kit (Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Saitek X52 Pro and a illuminated panel with 28 buttons called "MFD F-16"). However I also have a chinese USB pedal set with three pedals that output "a", "b" and "c" (until I fiddled with udev's hwdb to change this output), a chinese numeric USB keyboard with function keys, a regular PS/2-style USB gamepad, a bluetooth mini android controller, a finger mouse, one or two other devices that I used to play games but can't remember, and two that I never used to play games but think it would work: a chinese gaomon drawing tablet and a 3D Connexion Space Navigator 3D mouse. I like to mess with input devices, if you haven't figured it out already. Ah! I also have a programmable EEG kit, but I will take some time to program it and be able to make it into a proper input device...

Steam Summer Sale 2019 is live, here’s what to look out for Linux fans
By Hori, 26 June 2019 at 2:52 pm UTC

finaldestGRRR. I feel I was denied critical, Neeeeeeeed to know, Information.

I have dropped £60 this week on Games/DLC and now a steam sale appears.

Guess I have no option but to check out the wishlist which has 100 games on it.

Gaben, Why do you always do this to me.
You can refund them and buy them again.
As far as I know Valve considers buying games right before a sale as a valid refund reason.

Steam Summer Sale 2019 is live, here’s what to look out for Linux fans
By Dedale, 26 June 2019 at 2:39 pm UTC

Tss tss. I must set my finances straight but i bought Helium Rain Anyway.

Move or Die, one of the funniest party games around has added the previously exclusive PS4 content onto PC
By liamdawe, 26 June 2019 at 2:29 pm UTC

HoriAn amazing game. Great for local coop

Happy for any new content

By the way:
QuoteAs the name suggests, if you don't stop moving, you will die.

It's quite the opposite. If you stop moving, you die. You have to move all the time or you're losing health.
Good catch, the wrong word snuck in there

Canonical have released a statement on Ubuntu and 32bit support, will keep select packages
By F.Ultra, 26 June 2019 at 2:24 pm UTC Likes: 3

Jaromir
mirvWhatever you're smoking, I suggest you stop.

I work with radio communications, and have done so across multiple frequency bands. Standing on a slab of granite is more dangerous. Various foods that you eat (and whatever it is that you smoke) are more dangerous not only to yourself, but those around you.
This is my last post on the subject because I do not intend to derail the discussion about 32bit support. I just wanted to indicate the health implications of the IoT sector where Ubuntu Linux is now a central player. The type of people who continue to deny the many clear evidence will always be there. Just as the Trump administration buries studies that prove the effects of climate change.

As I mentioned earlier, one of the problems with EMF radiation is the fact that it breaks the synchronization of living organisms with the schumann frequency. And this is an undeniable fact that has serious consequences.

In 1960 a renowned researcher from the Max Planck Institute in Germany, Rutger Wever extended the studies on Schumann frequency and conducted an experiment with university students that volunteered to have their health state evaluated. The students had to spend four weeks in an underground bunker built for this experiment, totally isolated from the Schumann resonance. What happened during those weeks was impressive. All the students began to feel sick, suffer severe headaches, had strange emotions and felt exhausted. When the researcher Rutger Wever introduced in the bunker (without warning the students) the Schumann frequency generator, each participant experienced relief of their condition and quickly recovered.

But desynchronisation with the Schumann frequency isn't the only severe problem with EMF. The exposure to electromagnetic pollution leads to gradual and accentuated health deterioration by weakening the immune system. Consequently, some of the health problems that occur are:

Migraine
Blurred vision
Skin diseases
Depression
Hormonal disorders
Emotional disturbances
Poor memory
Cancer
Leukemia

No it's not, every single thing that you claim to be facts are just religious beliefs in the New Age community. As usual when it comes to things like this, for your "facts" to stand true then the rest of the entire world have to be part of a vast conspiracy to hide the "importance of the Schumann frequency".

The Wever experiment is so bad it's laughable, isolate people in a hermetically sealed small bunker for 4 weeks and then attribute all the symptoms to a magic property when all the symptoms can be adhere to people just being isolated for 4 weeks in a small area...

Or that they experienced that in a simple bunker in the woods of Germany while we the normal people can have people stuffed in submarines for months on end without any problem, or people up in ISS for months on end without problems. Not even the Appollo missions to the Moon suffered any problems like this when they where completely detached from your precious frequency for a long time...

Not to mention that your precious Schumann frequency are actually several different frequencies (since it's a resonance frequency) and that they all change depending on solar activity.

Move or Die, one of the funniest party games around has added the previously exclusive PS4 content onto PC
By Hori, 26 June 2019 at 2:23 pm UTC Likes: 1

An amazing game. Great for local coop

Happy for any new content

By the way:
QuoteAs the name suggests, if you don't stop moving, you will die.

It's quite the opposite. If you stop moving, you die. You have to move all the time or you're losing health.

ZED from Eagre Games and Cyan Ventures is out for Linux now, it’s quite an experience (plus an interview)
By Power-Metal-Games, 26 June 2019 at 2:13 pm UTC Likes: 1

Corben
QuoteIt seems stupid to have a storefront that supports Mac but doesn’t support a platform 5x the market of Mac.
Where does this impression come from? From all statistics I've seen, Linux is never 5x the market of Mac.

And how many Macs out there are capable of running any game at all?
Number of Linux gaming machines is probably much bigger than that.

Move or Die, one of the funniest party games around has added the previously exclusive PS4 content onto PC
By cprn, 26 June 2019 at 2:09 pm UTC

I find my 360 controllers not working unless I run the game from Big Picture. No idea why there's actual difference.

Last Moon, a 2D action-RPG with a gorgeous vibrant style will be coming to Linux next year
By Nanobang, 26 June 2019 at 2:04 pm UTC

Looks cute and fun, but I'll need to see how it handles death (running out of hearts) and how one keeps track of where one is and one is going---I don't see a mini-map onscreen and that worries me a little in a game like this.

After initially being rejected by Valve, The Expression Amrilato is now live on Steam
By Nanobang, 26 June 2019 at 1:56 pm UTC

This feels more like someone made a mistake at Valve than anything intentional. I'm being gracious, admittedly, because this is Valve, after all, the gaming company from the next dimension over. I don't pay too much attention to this aspect of Valve, but it seems to me that for all Valve's capriciousness, it's usually edge Adult sexual or Hate crime sorta cases that are rejected---not loving/blooming homosexuality or language learning. Was a reason given?

Canonical have released a statement on Ubuntu and 32bit support, will keep select packages
By Nanobang, 26 June 2019 at 1:47 pm UTC

Jaromir
NanobangIoT: More ways to be hacked, more ways to be spied on. Socio-techno dross. Also pretty unrelated to the article at hand---not as unrelated as, say EMF sickness, but pretty fuckin' unrelated all the same.
It is predicted that 5G (= EMF) will benefit IoT innovation. So the IoT revolution in which Ubuntu is an important player will make living organisms (and people) sicker by increasing the EMF radiation.

This seems to me to contradict the Ubuntu philosophy:

"You cannot only be human and when you have this characteristic - Ubuntu - you are known for your generosity. We think of ourselves too often, because only individuals, separated from each other, while you are connected and what you do affect the entire world. When you do it right, it spreads; it's for all humanity. "

The link between Ubuntu Linux and EMF disease is therefore 5G technology that plays a central role in both cases.



I admire the passion you and others have about this topic. I certainly wasn't arguing against you, merely saying---albeit in a glib, somewhat snarky way (sorry)---that the topic of Ubuntu/IoT/EMF---however important it may or may be---really has no place in a discussion of an article about Ubuntu's 32 bit support.

Please, let me explain. 5g may play a central role in Ubuntu Linux and EMF disease, as you say, and I'm not saying it doesn't nor that it is or isn't an important issue. I'm saying that it's an issue that's considered separate from what this article is about.

This article is about Ubuntu's most recent position on 32 bit support and NOT anything else about Ubuntu. We'd say that the topic of the article (the article is about) is this particular, specific aspect of Ubuntu (32 bit support) and not Ubuntu in general nor any other aspect of Ubuntu.

Talking about Ubuntu's involvement with IoT (and subsequently EMF) is to discuss Ubuntu---yes---but because it's not about 32 bit support, it's not about the same topic, You see what I'm saying? IoT/EMF isn't what the article is about. We'd say IoT is a different, particular, and specific aspect of Ubuntu.---and so we'd say it's a different topic.

I'm trying to explain this to you on the off chance you are not a troll but simply don't understand why I'm saying IoT/EMF are off topic. I hope I helped.

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