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A device like this would have been nice in the late 90s or early 00s. Surprised no one thought of it before.

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I picked up a new 2-in-1 Chromebook recently for £171 ($233 inc tax) and it runs ChromeOS, Debian and Android and has twice the battery life and a higher resolution screen (that has touch too) than this does, which makes me question its value. I like the idea of a "lapdock", but I suspect you'd want a really good quality one (nice keyboard, good display and long battery life) so that you could use it for many years and attach multiple generations of phones, tablets and gaming devices for it to justify its existence. That would raise its price, which might be why this concept has struggled to take off.

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It's a good job they say that Linux is supported, because the specs page for the RP5 says it ships with Android 10 pre-installed! I think shipping an OS that is 5 major versions out of date would make you think twice about purchasing it and would certainly encourage you to wipe it and install Linux...

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Wishlisted. It is a Linux native game and also have David Wise on the soundtrack? Almost made me buy it despite the overprice in my home currency.

For those who don't know, the original is a hidden gem on the NES, since it saw a very limited launch outside japan and was probably the best game Sunsoft ever made. And for those thinking it is just a cheap Nintendo's Kirby knock-off, it was launched first and is as good of a game as the famous Nintendo platformer.

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Quoting: Viesta2015the moment a steam deck 2 comes out im jumping onto the chance to get it no matter what

The moment a Steam Deck 2 comes out . . . I might finally get a Steam Deck 1 on discount. It's not like I play highpowered games anyway.

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dont look special even with the music being made by david wise... in fact the music of the trailer wasnt anything to write home about despite that...

but i dont know, it might be good, i bet a lot of the 6 world wide fans of gimick! are excited about this one...
and i probably will regret say so many negative things about an game i know nothing about.

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Quoting: Mountain Man$170 seems pretty steep considering you can buy a low-end laptop for that price.

Absolutely zero $170 laptops on earth are worth paying $170 for. This is at least worth the cash if you use it for the purpose of turning the steam deck or other handheld (maybe android phones?) into proper computer.

Whether or not you think a $170 laptop is worth the cost is beside the point. There's a whole lot more hardware in even a cheap Chromebook than there is in this thing, so I'm a bit baffled why it costs so much.

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2019, 06.28 -- Valve Index was released
2022, 02.25 -- Steam Deck was released
2023, 11.16 -- Steam Deck OLED was released

So we are about 2.5 years since Steam Deck's initial release.

Considering the R&D & time to market, I wouldn't really be surprised to see Steam Deck 2 in the next 12-18 months which would make the upgrade cycle interval about ~4 years.

I presume the Steam Deck hardware team (which previously achieved the Index, Steam Controller, and Steam Link) got pulled over to Deckard which would delay a Steam Deck 2 until after what I would imagine is either Valve Index 2 or Deckard Standalone VR. (Obviously the wuflu pandemic years messed up the timeline for R&D.)

I expect Steam Deck 2 to have a resolution of 16:10 1920x1200 (likely under this AMD Z2 chip), OLED, and largely be the same with better Wifi, Bluetooth, Increased Storage, Perhaps a 10-15% reduction in size or if they're feeling ballsie we'll see a flip up Nintendo DS style option (maybe from another manufacturer), but I largely expect it to look nearly exactly the same and function the same with better specs -- they may steal a page from Apple's book selling colored rectangles and make the personalization as simple as having different colored shells (Orange OLED shell is pretty sick, I'm looking at it right now) Translucent FTW.

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Just tried the demo. Warning, it's very short, and ends kind of abruptly. But then, the full game is supposed to be quite short so that makes sense.

It's interesting, and I'm interested in playing it when it releases, but the aesthetic is an extremely simplified version of brutalism. So don't expect to see much detail, even at a large scale. It's striking, but simple to the point of almost being bland. It's not something I could lose myself in if it weren't for the story, as with the aforementioned Fugue In Void from my other comment.

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the moment a steam deck 2 comes out im jumping onto the chance to get it no matter what

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Quoting: Mountain Man$170 seems pretty steep considering you can buy a low-end laptop for that price.

Absolutely zero $170 laptops on earth are worth paying $170 for. This is at least worth the cash if you use it for the purpose of turning the steam deck or other handheld (maybe android phones?) into a proper computer.

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Quoting: no_information_hereHmm. Style reminds me a bit of Kairo:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/233230/Kairo/

Wow, i'd totally forgotten about Kairo. Never did finish it.

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I got it today and I must say I'm impressed. It's more immersive and detailed than I thought

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Hmm. Style reminds me a bit of Kairo:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/233230/Kairo/

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Quoting: Vortex_AcheronticIf they make a Steam Deck 2 I am really keen to see how they will adapt the Steam Deck verified system. Because there are games not supported on Deck simply because they do not perform so well but might do so on a SD2.

It's a bit of a pickle, but I think it could be done with just one extra icon.

Most of the criteria - text size, controller layouts, and so on - are going to be exactly the same whichever generation it is. So just keep testing with the Deck 1, and if it hits the 720p/30fps target there no worries, give it the green tick. But if it can't run on the Deck 1 and can run on the Deck 2 then they're going to need another rating. Possibly a yellow "2" icon or something like that, so it's a warning that you need the Deck 2 for it.

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If they make a Steam Deck 2 I am really keen to see how they will adapt the Steam Deck verified system. Because there are games not supported on Deck simply because they do not perform so well but might do so on a SD2.

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From what I've heard, Wukong runs just barely good enough on the Deck. And with OLED getting over 2 hours of battery life at high TDP, 3 hours seems to be a quite believable goal. Then again, the comparison seems to be with something like the Ally in high TDP mode according to the stated battery life. This would be quite impressive indeed, given that the Z1 chips felt like "throwing more power at the problem" compared to the chip in the Deck.

Regarding the Deck 2, I think they might wait at least one more year. The fact that Wukong runs at all makes me believe that the Deck can keep up with new releases just a bit longer.

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Quoting: KlaasI think it was too early to stop wine-ge in February. It does not look like umu will be ready in the near future (latest release is 0.1-RC4 released in April).

This is exactly the point I wanted to make. Thanks, Klaas.

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Wonder if the Z2 Extreme is going to be based on Strix Point or a highly cut-down Strix Halo.
The difference is that Point has 16 RDNA 3.5 units, and Halo has 40 RDNA 4.0.

A 20 RDNA4 CU cut down version of Strix Halo should be notably more energy efficient for the same performance than a 16 RDNA3.5 CU full-fat version of Strix Point.

It also looks like the Zen5c cores are noticeably smaller (cheaper) and use less power at lower clocks, but can't go to the 5+Ghz range. Would be a decent option for a handheld. You're more interested in performance that matches the GPU, and it should be lower power.

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I don't think this'll be in the Deck 2. The Deck is still ramping up as a platform - Valve want to wait as long as possible before they disrupt that. This chip will be useful for the annual-release also-rans, though.

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I can see Valve using a custom version of the Z2 because the chip might have features that they might not want and at the same time, want to keep the low power profile that the current Steam Deck is using today. While every other handheld PC have power starting at around 8W, Steam Deck can go as low as 3W and imagine how much more gaming time you can get at 3W with those new chips for emulators.

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I respect someone with a big vision. For the record, though, I'm pretty sure the library I work in is not destroying the universe.

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I dunno. Sounds gimmicky.

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Quoting: dos

Quoting: Liam DaweI did mention clearly in the article that multi-touch works so it definitely acts like a touchpad.

You only mentioned two finger scroll, which is usually emulated as a basic mouse wheel.

evtest output will tell you everything.

Looks like it's detected as a mouse, Plasma settings also blanks out touchpad settings. Although I did just discover three fingers on the pad will also bring up the alt+tab switcher.

QuoteAvailable devices:
/dev/input/event0: Power Button
/dev/input/event1: Lid Switch
/dev/input/event10: AMIRA-KEYBOAR USB KEYBOARD
/dev/input/event11: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
/dev/input/event12: HD-Audio Generic HDMI/DP,pcm=8
/dev/input/event13: HD-Audio Generic HDMI/DP,pcm=9
/dev/input/event14: FTS3528:00 2808:1015
/dev/input/event15: FTS3528:00 2808:1015 UNKNOWN
/dev/input/event16: sof-nau8821-max Headset Jack
/dev/input/event17: AMIRA-KEYBOAR USB KEYBOARD Mouse
/dev/input/event18: AMIRA-KEYBOAR USB KEYBOARD Consumer Control
/dev/input/event19: KTMicro KT USB Audio
/dev/input/event2: Power Button
/dev/input/event3: Video Bus
/dev/input/event4: PC Speaker
/dev/input/event5: Valve Software Steam Controller
/dev/input/event6: Valve Software Steam Controller
/dev/input/event7: HD-Audio Generic HDMI/DP,pcm=3
/dev/input/event8: HD-Audio Generic HDMI/DP,pcm=7
/dev/input/event9: Microsoft X-Box 360 pad 0

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Quoting: MayeulCQuestions:

• Can you use both ports for video input (plug the SD in either port)?
  


• Can you use the other USB port as a video output, to connect an external screen? (Daisy chaining)
  


• Can you opt out of charging whatever is connected? As in, If I'm doing light office work, the Steam Deck could last for 12 hours, no need for charging, I'd rather have the external screen last longer.
  


• I assume either USB-C ports can be used as power inputs as well?
  

1) No, only the port on the right.

2) Don't have the specific cable needed to test for that. I assume not, which is why it also has Mini HDMI.

3) Never tried doing that before. I assume that would be a kernel-level feature of whatever you've connected if possible at all.

4) No, the left port is specifically labelled as the power supply.

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Quoting: Liam DaweI did mention clearly in the article that multi-touch works so it definitely acts like a touchpad.

You only mentioned two finger scroll, which is usually emulated as a basic mouse wheel.

evtest output will tell you everything.

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Quoting: dosYou missed the most crucial part of a lapdock review: is its touchpad exposed as a touchpad, or as a mouse?

What’s the easiest way to be sure on that? I did mention clearly in the article that multi-touch works so it definitely acts like a touchpad.

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Questions:

• Can you use both ports for video input (plug the SD in either port)?
  


• Can you use the other USB port as a video output, to connect an external screen? (Daisy chaining)
  


• Can you opt out of charging whatever is connected? As in, If I'm doing light office work, the Steam Deck could last for 12 hours, no need for charging, I'd rather have the external screen last longer.
  


• I assume either USB-C ports can be used as power inputs as well?
  

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You missed the most crucial part of a lapdock review: is its touchpad exposed as a touchpad, or as a mouse?

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That's actually pretty cool.

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