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Quoting: Brisse

Quoting: liamdaweUpdate: OpenGL, not Vulkan.

Pretty sure that's why it was delayed. They were probably planning to use Vulkan at first but ran into problems becouse the game requires stream output support which cannot be implemented properly on Vulkan yet. If thats the case then they basically had two choises: Either wait for Khronos to develop a suitable Vulkan extension, or fall back on OpenGL. Looks like they went with the latter. Maybe they initially did plan the former but changed their mind when Proton was released since the game works with PROTON_USE_WINED3D11=1 %command%. Then again, this is just speculation on my part so I could be wrong.

From what I found this is only the case with DXVK specifically which is not something Feral uses, they have their own D3D implementation. Also, Unity3D already has native Linux support (and Vulkan too, but I'm not sure if it's stable/usable as of now) so I doubt Feral re-ported the engine using their own technology, it doesn't make sense. Most probably it was a middleware issue that took them this long to solve. Whatever the cause, I'm happy the game releases next week! Ready to visit the Feral store once again despite the economic situation in Russia right now.

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I always liked games by phr00t, they are really unique.
Not sure if this one is for me (I prefer RTS games with a more "real" world, while this one seems very much just "many random metal tiles" ), but I'll give it try nonetheless when it is released.

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Quoting: 0aTT

Quoting: liamdaweUpdate: OpenGL

No Linux problem but I'm wondering if such games still run under MacOS after Apple completely stops support for OpenGL? It is already discontinued and only a question of time until OpenGL is completely omitted.

Do we know for sure that macOS version doesn't use Metal though? The answer above might have been specifically for the Linux-version.

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Quoting: liamdaweUpdate: OpenGL, not Vulkan.

Pretty sure that's why it was delayed. They were probably planning to use Vulkan at first but ran into problems becouse the game requires stream output support which cannot be implemented properly on Vulkan yet. If thats the case then they basically had two choises: Either wait for Khronos to develop a suitable Vulkan extension, or fall back on OpenGL. Looks like they went with the latter. Maybe they initially did plan the former but changed their mind when Proton was released since the game works with PROTON_USE_WINED3D11=1 %command%. Then again, this is just speculation on my part so I could be wrong.

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Quoting: liamdaweUpdate: OpenGL

No Linux problem but I'm wondering if such games still run under MacOS after Apple completely stops support for OpenGL? It is already discontinued and only a question of time until OpenGL is completely omitted.

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Quoting: GuestIf Feral mentioned AMD R9 270 in the minimal requirements, that possibly means that OpenGL is at least an option. They usually don't test Vulkan-only games on these old cards.

We do test Vulkan games on them, we just don't officially support them because it requires you to manually switch over to the amdgpu kernel module and support for the older cards there is still considered experimental.

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I think I have a crush with Feral... I promised myself to buy this one on Steam (you know, to save some money due to country economical problems) but they deserve my effort. Sorry government, I have to pay the highest price for Feral games (love is love).

Quoting: GuestIf Feral mentioned AMD R9 270 in the minimal requirements, that possibly means that OpenGL is at least an option. They usually don't test Vulkan-only games on these old cards.

If the users activates AMDGPU for GCN 1.0 & 1.1, they should be able to run Vulkan games with that card.

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Update: OpenGL, not Vulkan.

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Quoting: lucifertdarkI thought they removed it from sale back when they first released TITANS?

They kinda messed it all up, but I'm glad they finally done it properly. What they're doing now, is what they should have done from the beginning.

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Quoting: tuubiIf you want to run proprietary software, surely it's better to do it on a platform you trust? This is not math and two negatives do not make a positive.

I'm not one to preach free software or anything else really, but I don't see how your views are more pragmatic than the ones you condemn. Convenient for you maybe, but that's hardly the same thing.

It is indeed better, and the reason why I use Windows for most of my gaming is because I play with friends, and three out of four of the games we play the most are not available natively for Linux, and four out of four have minor to large performance issues with Linux. One of them I can't even get to run at all any more. I don't buy single player titles not available for Linux, but my friends are more important to me than what software I run, and I'm honest about that.

What I was trying to say is that if you truly value Free Software, you would not run proprietary games. Even if you only care about whether the source is open or not, be careful when berating others for their choice of closed source software because that veers awfully close to hypocrisy. There's obviously big privacy issues with Windows which are much smaller with games, but privacy and closed source don't really mix too well in general.

It's not a black and white thing, but I see and hear an awful lot of people who are very adamant that Free and/or Open Source software is very important. But then they happily buy proprietary games and even spend an awful lot of time making them run better on Linux, while barely giving any thought or help to games which are Free Software, that thing they supposedly care so much about.

There are not a lot of good Free Software games, but if people showed even remotely the amount of support that proprietary games get to those that exist, guess what, there would be more and better games available under Free and/or Open Source licenses. But it's become clear to me that a lot of the Linux community is not very consistent. Free and Open Source only matters to some, while a good bunch are just posers.

Wow, I have become a bit of a bitter old geezer, haven't I. I guess getting disillusioned does that.

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I thought they removed it from sale back when they first released TITANS?

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What is current status of Linux build?

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I am very tempted! I do sort of exactly meet the minimum sys req...

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:><: damn it Liam! I promised myself I wouldn't buy any more games that I don't have time to play haha.

Now look what you've done! :P

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Quite cool that they are still supporting it. I jumped into a game randomly the other day and started playing. Total noob really but the commander was good and I just listened to his instructions and we did well.

Probably made some rookie mistakes but nobody was raging at me about it.

Performance has improved a lot, previously it just kept crashing whenever graphics were turned up.

Will have to purchase DLC.

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Quoting: mock²³

Quoting: razing32Hmm.
Is this game dead ?
The steam charts mark the top number of players this week at 368

The player count has been around 400 for years now, and it still is not dead. There even still is a competitive league.


But before you consider buying it, be careful. As Liam mentioned, the devs have practically stopped support for Linux. The libsndio is a thing you can fix by yourself. But at the moment the Steam overlay is not working, and although the devs know about this, they don't even list it under known issues.

Thanks for the heads up.
Think i have it from a bundle or a friend.

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Amazing what they can do with these "mods"
They are pretty much stand alone games at this point.

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Considering that Windows release of the game is quite broken, don't expect a fully functional Linux client soon.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyThis is one of those times when the reasons for mixed reviews are important. If it's because of bugs and instability, it could be a great game underneath that, which will show its worth once they get things fixed up. If it's because it's lame, that's harder to fix. I hope it's the former because this really feels like something I'd like.

Unfortunately, the main issues seem to be of the latter character. The concept changed when they got Gearbox onboard, from a conceptually pretty generic, procedurally generated survival game to a full story based big release. And supposedly there's too many signs of "old code"/old concept left in the game, leaving it falling between two chairs. Sadly, cause I had high, HIGH hopes for this one!

I'll still buy it though, out of sheer stubborn spite. But this has probably gone from being a candidate for my GOTY to my biggest disappointment this year.

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This is one of those times when the reasons for mixed reviews are important. If it's because of bugs and instability, it could be a great game underneath that, which will show its worth once they get things fixed up. If it's because it's lame, that's harder to fix. I hope it's the former because this really feels like something I'd like.

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Quoting: Hamish

Quoting: EikeWhile there's different reasons people don't want to do that, there's at least (!) one very good one: People should refrain from doing stuff in the command line they don't understand. And no, most people don't know, don't care and shouldn't need to care about 'compiling'.

This actually feeds into a wider point I was thinking on while reading Jason's articles. The reason why people feel that using a GUI is easier than the command line is that in order to use the terminal effectively you do by and large have to have a more intimate knowledge of the system you a managing.

GUIs by their very nature obscure things to the point that they are easier to fudge, and for most users that is more than good enough. Experienced users don't just gravitate to the console because they are masochists, but because once you have that knowledge it is often the simplest way to do things. And simple is a synonym for easy.

I myself as a rule prefer to avoid the command line for that exact sort of reason, even though I know that many GUI tools to get things done are basically wrappers for fairly simple command line, um, commands.
Although I will say one thing: Troubleshooting is much better via command line. It's so much more stable and so much easier to convey. If you have problem X on Windows, a fix for Windows 7 will involve quite different fiddling around with submenus and weird little GUI tools compared to Windows 8 or Windows 10--and the instructions will be extremely complex and easy to get wrong. But with Linux, typically suggestions will be like, "Paste this into the command line" to either get some diagnosis or fix the problem. Many of these things to paste will work across most distros and versions, and intuitive though GUIs might be it's way easier to follow the instructions "Copy&paste this text" than "Go to this menu and do this and then pick that tab on the thing and do the other thing and then uncheck the dealie that should be here on that popup and . . ." Plus, it is much more likely that the GUI tools simply won't have anything that solves the particular problem; the command line is much more complete and powerful in what it can do. I just don't normally need to do the things it's good at, is all.

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Time to jump into Verdun and try it out!

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It looks like good, frantic fun. For $10, one could easily try it for an hour to make sure it runs well and return it if not.

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Added to wish list. I'll get it once it's out and introduce my kids to a racing game.

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For those of you using updated NVIDIA drivers having problems, put "-force-glcore42 -force-clamped" in your launch options (without the quotes). That worked to prevent crashing while loading for me.

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Quoting: EikeWhile there's different reasons people don't want to do that, there's at least (!) one very good one: People should refrain from doing stuff in the command line they don't understand. And no, most people don't know, don't care and shouldn't need to care about 'compiling'.

This actually feeds into a wider point I was thinking on while reading Jason's articles. The reason why people feel that using a GUI is easier than the command line is that in order to use the terminal effectively you do by and large have to have a more intimate knowledge of the system you a managing.

GUIs by their very nature obscure things to the point that they are easier to fudge, and for most users that is more than good enough. Experienced users don't just gravitate to the console because they are masochists, but because once you have that knowledge it is often the simplest way to do things. And simple is a synonym for easy.

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Quoting: mylka

Quoting: x_wingExcellent! I'm really waiting for this one. Hope we can test it on Linux in no time.

play it with proton. i should work
and you can compare the performance with the nativ version

I'm will only buy games to play with steamplay with best offer I can get (i.e. buy them on good discounts, humblebundles or those nasty pages like g2a). But, if the devs are working on a native release, I'll wait for it and pay the full price (as I've been doing so far). From my point of view, is the only way I can reward the devs work.

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Definitely pushing out a SteamOS package for this by end of week for SteamOS-Tools. Shouldn't be much different than how I got Brutal Dook into a package. Just some presets in files.

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Tsubasa Oozora!!

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