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Quoting: LoudTechieSecure anti-cheat can be build in an open manner, but nobody has done it yet.

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Valve will never accept monero, because it's anonymous and decentralized.
The scammers for which they sacrificed their own gift cards would exploit exactly this decentralization and anonymity to hide their activity.

Even though I can't imagine how that could happen, (just like how I cant believe peoole sfill fall for gift card scams), you're probably right. I wonder when this stops being about a problem with gift cards and currencies, and more about people not thinking clearly when falling for these scams.

People will always fall for scams. That's not a problem that'll ever go away. Which is why we need governments, laws and regulations to protect the vulnerable. Of course governments do that with varying success and enthusiasm, but that's a political and social problem that doesn't have a technical solution.

In my opinion, the reason scams work so well is because they are exploiting the individual's innate greed and, in some cases, the appeal of getting something for nothing (i.e., minimal effort or work). So, greed exploits greed, in the end, and, ironically, we look to government regulation to protect us from ourselves. I think the old phrase "and if you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you", says it all. Better to operate under the idiom that "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."

I wouldn't go all in on victim blaming, unless you only count the "investment opportunity" scams and the "Nigerian princes". And sure, I want governments to protect their citizens from exploitation by criminals (or greedy corporations) even if they're too greedy or gullible for their own good.

Oh, I'm not saying that governments shouldn't protect their citizens from such scams just that we citizens should also take some responsibility for ourselves in the matter. I also agree that some scams are a lot harder to detect than others. I prefer to err on the side of caution with anything unusual or suspicious.

If observing financial and blocking financial transactions aren't tools governments're allowed to demand to be able to use to achieve this goal, which tools would you consider appropriate to demand for the government to enforce this.

Education?
Asking nicely?

Edit:
randomly arresting people?

Huh? 🤔

First, I provide a supposition for why people fall for these scams and it is assumed that I am advocating for no government protection. Then I clarify that this is not the case and I get taken to task for supporting ineffective or excessive government measures to achieve this goal. I can't win!

@LoudTechie, I wasn't commenting on enforcement in the first place. Its complicated, as you've indicated. Governments handle matters like this by passing laws and create policy. Leave it to them to figure out how to accomplish this in a fair and impartial manner. We can hope they'll get it right.

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Quoting: Pyrate

Quoting: LoudTechiealso relevant to this discussion.
Valve will never accept monero, because it's anonymous and decentralized.
The scammers for which they sacrificed their own gift cards would exploit exactly this decentralization and anonymity to hide their activity.

Even though I can't imagine how that could happen, (just like how I cant believe peoole sfill fall for gift card scams), you're probably right. I wonder when this stops being about a problem with gift cards and currencies, and more about people not thinking clearly when falling for these scams.

People will always fall for scams. That's not a problem that'll ever go away. Which is why we need governments, laws and regulations to protect the vulnerable. Of course governments do that with varying success and enthusiasm, but that's a political and social problem that doesn't have a technical solution.

In my opinion, the reason scams work so well is because they are exploiting the individual's innate greed and, in some cases, the appeal of getting something for nothing (i.e., minimal effort or work). So, greed exploits greed, in the end, and, ironically, we look to government regulation to protect us from ourselves. I think the old phrase "and if you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you", says it all. Better to operate under the idiom that "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."

I wouldn't go all in on victim blaming, unless you only count the "investment opportunity" scams and the "Nigerian princes". And sure, I want governments to protect their citizens from exploitation by criminals (or greedy corporations) even if they're too greedy or gullible for their own good.

Oh, I'm not saying that governments shouldn't protect their citizens from such scams just that we citizens should also take some responsibility for ourselves in the matter. I also agree that some scams are a lot harder to detect than others. I prefer to err on the side of caution with anything unusual or suspicious.

If observing financial and blocking financial transactions aren't tools governments're allowed to demand to be able to use to achieve this goal, which tools would you consider appropriate to demand for the government to enforce this.

Education?
Asking nicely?

Edit:
randomly arresting people?

Quoting: HamishI am still held back by my Pentium III 500 Katmai, which does meet the minimum system requirements listed on the box but not by much.

Quoting: fschauppSounds like to me, Secureboot + Signed Kernel&Modules + SELinux + Signed Proton + Wayland will be maybe the new requirement chain of trust.
I mean, even some Android apps manage to get a solid set of system integrity check like for some banking and government authentication apps.

If the tradeoff for running modern and mostly cheater-free online multiplayer games is just running the official distro kernel and secureboot + selinux, count me absolutely in!
If it's some systemd-gamingd thing.. I maybe need to think about it a bit..

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Quoting: LoudTechieThere's technically already working anti-cheat on Linux, for so far anti-cheat works
Battle eye, VAC, Easy anti-cheat, etc.
It's just that its worse than Windows in its current form(this will be contentious).
This is, because the strengths of Linux aren't used.

It is more like it is not allowed to use for a good reason. KLAC runs in user space on Linux and is therefor kinda downgraded to an user space anti-cheat, which explains why it is not so powerful. And I am expecting a lot of issues those corps will try to push on us sooner or later which may even divide the supported distros in those who ship a KLAC downstream and those who do not or other even more ugly things. Theoretically possible, sure. But to what costs? That is the real question.

Quoting: LoudTechieThere's technically already working anti-cheat on Linux, for so far anti-cheat works
Battle eye, VAC, Easy anti-cheat, etc.
It's just that its worse than Windows in its current form(this will be contentious).
This is, because the strengths of Linux aren't used.

Quoting: JarmerNext time I flash my system and install fresh from start (when cosmic epoch 2 launches) I'm not even going to enable the aur at all. It'll be only official repos + flatpaks.

Quoting: artikI'm really suprised how the kernel team now put many efforts in gaming, especially handled console. That's so cool.

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Quoting: amataiAUR is fine at it is, but it should not be enabled by default.

AUR is disabled by default in most distros. Enabling it comes with a disclaimer. Most people use it knowing very well that doing so comes with considerable risk.

AUR is the Linux equivalent of downloading random exes from the internet. People know it's a bad idea, for the most part, but they simply don't care that much.

Quoting: amataiAUR is fine at it is, but it should not be enabled by default.

Quoting: amataiAUR is fine at it is, but it should not be enabled by default.

Quoting: AllwyndIt seems like a very cool game especially with the graphical update, but I feel like it's too difficult for me to grasp.

Quoting: spacemonkeyMaybe there is a profit to be made when they are the first on the market with anti-cheat that works in Linux. I would think plenty of (other) dev studios will choose Epic's anti-cheat when they are the only ones that support Linux.

So, it's about being first (I would guess)

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Quoting: DrMcCoy"Retro"
"Return to Castle Wolfenstein"

wat

25 years not long enough for you? 25 years is enough time for a baby to grow up, become an adult, and graduate with a bachelor's degree. It's gonna be trippy when the generation of games that still look great in 2026 start becoming retro, like Witcher 3 for example.

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Quoting: LoudTechiealso relevant to this discussion.
Valve will never accept monero, because it's anonymous and decentralized.
The scammers for which they sacrificed their own gift cards would exploit exactly this decentralization and anonymity to hide their activity.

Even though I can't imagine how that could happen, (just like how I cant believe peoole sfill fall for gift card scams), you're probably right. I wonder when this stops being about a problem with gift cards and currencies, and more about people not thinking clearly when falling for these scams.

People will always fall for scams. That's not a problem that'll ever go away. Which is why we need governments, laws and regulations to protect the vulnerable. Of course governments do that with varying success and enthusiasm, but that's a political and social problem that doesn't have a technical solution.

In my opinion, the reason scams work so well is because they are exploiting the individual's innate greed and, in some cases, the appeal of getting something for nothing (i.e., minimal effort or work). So, greed exploits greed, in the end, and, ironically, we look to government regulation to protect us from ourselves. I think the old phrase "and if you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you", says it all. Better to operate under the idiom that "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."

I wouldn't go all in on victim blaming, unless you only count the "investment opportunity" scams and the "Nigerian princes". And sure, I want governments to protect their citizens from exploitation by criminals (or greedy corporations) even if they're too greedy or gullible for their own good.

Oh, I'm not saying that governments shouldn't protect their citizens from such scams just that we citizens should also take some responsibility for ourselves in the matter. I also agree that some scams are a lot harder to detect than others. I prefer to err on the side of caution with anything unusual or suspicious.

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Quoting: SlaxerIt's funny you mention that. Canada's in debt $1.3ish Trillion (capital T), so the money sitting in your bank account is increasingly becoming more and more worthless by the day - and that's on top of the fact that you're also being taxed more on it than they did in the past. So you're losing money on two fronts, inflation, and taxes - which is something that can be entirely blamed on one group of people. Take a guess who? In theory, Bitcoin could fix half of that problem.

And btw, I would be considered "wealthy" by the government's standards... which is why HALF of my sweat blood and tears goes to the government - only to be squandered and spent in ways that only benefit themselves, and not the country. Trust me, people like me aren't the ones stealing from you. But anyway... let's bring it back to those gift cards eh? lol

Yes, yes, what have the Romans government ever done for us?

This country was better off before the anti-government turn around 1980 and the, basically, corporate takeover of government, back when government did more and taxes were higher. If we still had Connaught labs we would have been making our own Covid vaccine and our insulin would still be at cost. If we still had social housing programs, we wouldn't have a homelessness problem and people would be able to afford the rent.

(I don't think the government actually wants any of your blood, sweat or tears; sounds kind of unsanitary. I just pay my taxes in $Cad)

As to the government debt . . . go learn some Modern Monetary Theory. It's a very limited theory which only says anything about, well, money, which is not nearly as broad an issue as MMT proponents seem to think. But, it's not batshit insane, which makes it better than right wing pseudo-populist claims about money. Bottom line, private economic surplus is created by government debt--that's not so much a theory as an accounting identity. If the government ran surpluses your blood, sweat and tears would, on average, stop making money and start taking losses. Platitudes about government spending that treat it like a household (specifically, one that doesn't buy cars or homes or take out student loans) are deeply misguided and end up turning the real world on its head, because governments do not resemble households in any relevant way.