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Welcome to the umpteenth iteration of "How Much Sawdust Can You Put In A Rice Crispy?" experiment. Alas, we find ourselves once again in the charade of "testing everyone's tolerance to AI slop", wherein CEOs spend a pittance on human labor as a gesture of apology. It's a meager step in the right direction, but still, disingenuous.

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I'm actually baffled, flabbergasted even that there isn't unanimous disapproval from what I checked online. What I saw wasn't enough. This will be the future of AAA games, if they weren't dead before, they're definitely dead now.

I'm not even close to the biggest AI hater by the way but this looks so bad it caught me completely off-guard.

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If this continues this trend, it will be like that camera app that didn't use the camera, just grabbed the GPS location and used generative AI to get an image of the place you were pointing at.

If I was a Capcom artist that had worked in the game and saw that image, I would be coughing blood.

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Quoting: TheLinuxPlebWould suck to lose Manjaro. It's basically Arch, but with the Stable branch you can update every time when there is an update. You don't have the same sort of commodity with Arch where with updates stuff can easily break so you have to postpone updates and look info from packages a lot.

Same goes with CachyOS. There can be breakage happening on those much more easy.
Something that is Arch and postpones updates and have testing for those is much wanted IMO.

Ive been basically years with Manjaro and it has been rock solid for me. Would be sad to see it go.

Manjaro is/was no stable Arch branch, Manjaro did nothing to the held back packages to stabilize them; they only tested their own tools with those packet versions. You even increased the risk of breakage as AUR packages are often build against newer packages Manjaro was still holding back.

If you think of Manjaro as stable, thats Arch Linux's stability there and not Manjaros.

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Please tell me the left hand image is just lowest settings. Tomb Raider from 2013 looked better than that without any mumbo jumbo.

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AMD's writing drivers in python w/ AI, ngreedia's doing this shit...SAVE US, INTEL!

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The update is worth something, but "since it's such a big fuss" just to not LIE is just whiny loser talk.

To people who say "we shouldn't have to put AI disclaimers on things because people might not use/watch/buy it": That is called consumer choice. Some would say it's unfair that they have to show corn syrup on their ingredients because people avoid buying food made with corn syrup, even though it's perfectly functional food that tastes fine!

When I eat the Nestle-branded ice cream frozen dairy dessert and feel ill and unsatisfied, I should be able to look at the ingredients, see that corn syrup is at the top of the list, and make future decisions with that knowledge. That allows me to make a choice as a consumer instead of just thinking "I guess food is just terrible now" while they price out the competition by making evil fake ice cream.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/digitalfoundry/comments/1rviuz7/disappointed_by_dfs_uncritical_glazing_of_dlss5/
This time Nvidia went too far with the Machine Learning. Previously we had artifacts now we have straight up hallucinations

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Quoting: dindonI think Nvidia smelled their own fart too much on this one...

Never heard this phrase and don't know its origins but it's uncanny how precise this description sounds

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Those two faces... the limit between enhancing and reimagining.

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It certainly looks like they've drawn over the in-game frame with AI art.
...why?

You know, with video games, there is already a neural network interpreting from the simplified rendering of reality and converting it into the image the player perceives - it's called a brain. They're removing abstraction that works in the favor of immersion. That's why games from the 90s and such could look "good" even though they couldn't be photorealistic.

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I think Nvidia smelled their own fart too much on this one...

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"DLSS 5 is the GPT moment for graphics"

That sounds chuffing awful.

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Disgusting. Again. Nvidon't 🤮

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I've been happily using Manjaro without issue for several years, but this latest news is disheartening, and I think it's probably time to distro hop. I've heard lots of good things about Fedora.

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while preserving the control artists need for creative expression

Kinda doubt. It seems artists are losing control more and more with all these AI-assisted techniques.

Like, this video on Crimson Desert "denoiser" (how is that just a denoiser??): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlRpJ553RzE

More and more weird "vibes" on gaming...

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3 Million Sales and they didn't have the decency to keep the GOG version up to date. No matter its' success, these guys lost all respect from me.

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I still have the original floppies. Wonder if that counts. 😅

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Quoting: CaldathrasIt's certainly plausible but not the only explanation. The OpenTTD team may have chosen to do so preemptively to avoid any potential complaint from Atari.

To me that just sounds like the OpenTTD team expected Atari to say "make people buy our game to play yours, or we'll DMCA you off of Steam and GOG" and got out in front of it. Not materially different, in my eyes.

Quoting: CaldathrasThe norm with these open-source executible projects (and total overhaul mod bundles) has been to offer them only to those that own the original game on the same store. This change puts OpenTTD in line with that approach.

Typically that's because they require assets from the original game (and I agree in that case, that makes sense). That's not the case here since OpenTTD has its own independently-created assets, so I don't see why it should happen.

I dunno. Maybe it's all totally innocent, but it's just not a very good look when a corporation comes along trying to revive a classic game and oh would you look at that, totally coincidentally you also now need to buy their game going forward to get access to the already-popular free and open source reimplementation of it (on popular store fronts, I know it's still freely available elsewhere). The patch notes definitely have an "I'm not happy about this and am typing it under duress" quality to them:

OpenTTD has been available on the Steam Store for the past five years.
During that time, we've built up an incredible player base, attracting lots of new players to the game.
Starting today however, OpenTTD will no longer be directly available as a standalone game on Steam.
It can instead be obtained as part of a bundle alongside the original Transport Tycoon Deluxe, which has been re-released by Atari and is now available to purchase via Steam for Windows, Mac, and Linux.

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I hope it works out. I wonder how switching from a current installation to choosing either the non-profit release or business-oriented release would go.

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The continued development of OpenRazer is always good to hear about, as it means there are fewer reasons for users to remain using MS Windows. Hopefully said users see the update news somehow and that sets them on the path to transitioning to Linux.

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My current Manjaro install has been stable for ages, but I get it.
I wont install Manjaro again, I dont usally recommend it. Too uncertain, too many unfixed bugs(mostly small ones though), too much blaming the end user, even if they hooped trough so many hoops to report issues upstream.

I once even donated to them... I dont have any strong feelings, but well it will be Mint or Arch+Hyprland for me next, we will see how it goes.

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Quoting: vertigoSteam workshop support could be absolutely massive. I'll still be holding off until the game leaves EA though.

It makes sense not to add Steam Workshop support too early - you could break mods with changes, and you're likely to have the biggest changes early on

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Quoting: ArtenFrom my point of view, there are three stances toward AI. Two of them are unhelpful. One is reasonable.

• AI is evil and must be avoided in all cases. This is a bad stance.
• AI is just a tool, and when used responsibly it is reasonable to employ it. I don’t think generating an entire article with AI is a good idea, but using it for spell‑checking? If it can catch incorrect wording, that’s a worthwhile use.
• Throw AI at anything. This is also a bad stance.

This seems like a reasonable perspective, but there are several problems and caveats to it.

So, before the real problems, the main caveat: Large language model AI is so incredibly intensive in its use of computing power that it costs real serious money to use. So for instance, using generative AI just for spelling/grammar checking is incredibly wasteful; we had spelling/grammar checking before that wasn't "AI" and that just worked on your computer without requiring a subscription to anything. Currently a good deal of the real cost is hidden because most AI companies are providing their services at a serious loss, in hopes of, um . . . well, that gets complicated and sordid, but they are doing that. But my point is, a lot and perhaps most uses that seem like reasonable uses for LLM "AI" as a tool, are not worth the money those uses would actually cost unsubsidized, and subsidized use is unsustainable in the medium term . . . fairly short term at this point. Getting used to cheap AI being available as a tool is a mistake, because it will either become unavailable or become not cheap.

The real problems: There are a lot of implications to AI use which go beyond their momentary utility to the user. Yes, they're indirect and longer term so lots of people don't want to be bothered thinking about them. That doesn't make them not real. And those impacts are mostly negative, particularly given who owns AI and what their motivations are, and they are probably much larger to any given individual than the positive impacts of using the marginally useful tool. So viewing AI use solely through the lens of "Is it useful to me right now?" is a good way for us all to collectively screw ourselves in a few years.

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Steam workshop support could be absolutely massive. I'll still be holding off until the game leaves EA though.

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Generative AI seems like it's everywhere now right? So here's a letter from the owner (me, hi!) formally setting out the GamingOnLinux stance on it.
[...]
Thanks for reading.

🤨

AI-generated 0%
Human-written & AI-refined 0%
Human-written 100%
😊

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Manjaro was once a brilliant distro and the Linux ecosystem wouldn't be where it is without it, but the past few years have been disastrous for the distro. I'd love for the distro to solve its issue and be anew what it was in 2015.

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Of course a person is going to be better than AI. The whole point of having voice actors is they know how to actually act, to bring some kind of clear intention and emotion into their roles with all their own little personal voice quirks. You don't get that with generating fake AI voices.

Well said.

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Quoting: pb

Quoting: Cyril

Quoting: pbMy son is on manjaro and his system breaks on every update. But apparently arch is "too complicated". 😆

You're exaggerating, don't you? ^^

Maybe a bit. 😇 But he's updating 1-2 times a year and there are always some conflicts and I need to help him fix it. ;-) Last time I rebuilt the mirror list so hopefully the next update will go more smoothly.

That's probably part of the problem for him. Manjaro needs to be updated more frequently than once or twice a year. Also, turning off the AUR prior to updates also helps to prevent breakage, I'd found.

I used Manjaro for about two years before I left for Pop!_OS (and later, Linux Mint). Support for legacy Nvidia GPUs was very poor and management had a very crappy attitude towards its community/users. For me, the proposed opt-out telemetry was the final straw.

I think the big part of the problem for me was not realizing that a rolling or semi-rolling distro is not really all that ideal for legacy hardware. Old hardware needs a more stable, less cutting-edge, environment, in my opinion.

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I regretted that the Manjaro team chose to drag its feet on Manjaro Summit.
https://forum.manjaro.org/t/manjaro-summit-public-alpha-now-available/176995

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