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Quoting: _MarsIt will probably go down a bit again.
But can we talk about the 11% for English only? Holy moly.
All those YouTubers and stuff talking about switching to Linux must have really moved the needle after the W10 EoL.

Well they sure have, but I guess English is over represented on Linux because more techy users tend to prefer English as system language over their native language(I know enough people like that myself, even on Windows, Android or Mac). And to be fair, language support for a lot of not-English languages is still poor on many Linux distros, I still remember Firefox on Manjaro resetting the language to english(from the system language) after each update, or lots of not fully translated strings here and there, missing keyboard support for non QWERTY layouts, incomplete glossary etc etc
Thats partially even still the case with big languages like French or German even on bigger distros sometimes(Take german glossary books for instance, still lacking so many words on both Linux and even on Android these days(2026!)) :/

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I mean we could have the navigation bars on the left side and then the rest of the content stretched more.
would be very readable imo. I just don't like scrolling that much.

something like youtube has for example.. with navigation bar on the left.. though youtube has gone worse over times also so i have to use the rowfixer extension to have more videos in row.

edit: i think its just because everyone designs the sites for mobile scrolling or something these days. I could be wrong ofc.

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Quoting: elmapulan console with 6,5M units sold would be called an flop.

6.5 M monthly active users is more like 20 millions units sold. Not a sound success but by no mean a failure. The Switch 2 is there for example.

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Quoting: elmapulan console with 6,5M units sold would be called an flop.

That depends where you came from. A console trade-mark that arrives for the first time with 6.5M is a victory. A Playstation that loses "just" 6.5M (PS5 has sold 92M until 2 months ago) is also a flop. Linux comes from the bottom, so 6.5M is a true victory (and I think you agree).

But don't forget, we are only speaking about Steam-data. I am playing most of the time without Steam titles as Horizon Zero Dawn or Path of Exile 1/2 or indie games. So sometimes I am part of the monthly-players, sometimes I am not while playing every month some sort of games. PCs of governments or companies running desktop Linux are not included, too. India has a market-share of 20% Linux computers all together. Europe and North-America reached 5% last year before Win10 EOL. The real desktop Linux user number is far above and trends as "Europe governments moves to Linux" is not included here.

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The first character being a movable player (you) and the other a sub character that can be summoned to appear with actions based on different inputs. These inputs include controlling a battle directly between the sub character and an enemy, automatic battles

That sounds a lot like the first Ni No Kuni game, the PS3 version from 2011 that is (which was later ported to PC).

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Quoting: XpanderWhy on earth is there so much empty space. Everything is squished into the middle. I have my monitor in landscape not portrait ffs.
well thats not steam only issue ofc. Every freaking site does that these days :(

The main reason being: readability. For games, having the area across the whole massive monitor makes a lot of sense. It pulls you in, draws you into the world, helps engross you.

But for reading anything, stretching across such a wide area is overall pretty poor. I'm sure there must have been studies on it I read somewhere. It's about not overloading people.

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Quoting: XpanderWhy on earth is there so much empty space. Everything is squished into the middle. I have my monitor in landscape not portrait ffs.
well thats not steam only issue ofc. Every freaking site does that these days :(

On second look... GoL does it, too. :D
Well, I wouldn't want to see your comment stretched over the whole monitor, and I'm happier with empty space than say adds.

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Why on earth is there so much empty space. Everything is squished into the middle. I have my monitor in landscape not portrait ffs.
well thats not steam only issue ofc. Every freaking site does that these days :(

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Quoting: Th3_Fr1ng3What would be an epic move, is when you could launch your games by using this game. This would be pretty meta.

If you pick up the game box and open it, you get an option to start the game from there. What I haven't found is how to delete the starter desk.

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Quoting: BrokattReally happy for their success. Is this the biggest release yet for a Godot title? It must be right?

Yep - biggest ever Godot release by miles.

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Quoting: vic-bayI am looking at hwsurvey stats again, and considering MacOS also got its share almost doubled, it is not error in counting linux share, but most likely the surveyed set of machines just happend to have lower share of windows.

No, it's that last month's results were broken by the well-known China overcount. Looking at any month's delta is entirely pointless. The useful thing to do is to look at the longer term trends, which Liam has helpfully documented.

Quoting: vic-bayChina has high Windows share, for some reasons.

Decades of intense directed effort at the highest levels from Microsoft.

Quoting: vic-bayIs there any legal issue with automatic data gathering?

Yes. And it's icky. Requesting consent to collect and publish a user's details at the point you do so is the only sane approach.

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Quoting: shotm7There is like 130M players by month, so 6,5M linux users. How can publishers afford to ignore such an enormous market share? Few businesses ever get the chance to reach such a vast potential audience.

an console with 6,5M units sold would be called an flop.

lets not ignore one thing: half of the market is mobile, and consoles are 25~30% (in terms of revenue, not ammount of users)

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Quoting: vic-bayI am looking at hwsurvey stats again, and considering MacOS also got its share almost doubled, it is not error in counting linux share, but most likely the surveyed set of machines just happend to have lower share of windows.

or maybe microsoft pissed off a lot of people... not to mention apple relased cheap macs recently

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Our thoughts: It is completely ridiculous that gameplay elements can have a patent at all. Software patents as a whole are a curse on the gaming and hardware industry that only cause issues for everyone and prevent competition.

Hear, hear!

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calm down, valve did some mistakes in their counting in the past, calm down, calm down, calm down...
ok, i cant

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Quoting: fenglengshun

Quoting: devlandLutris forces you to configure each game from scratch while bottles gives you one prefix aka bottle in which you can run things however you want.

Uh, no? I myself just uses the same prefix (and the same system Proton CachyOS) for Lutris, Heroic, and Faugus.

Lutris forces you to configure each game from scratch as in changing the lutris settings and not the prefix itself.

Lutris has, for each game or program you run through it, a different set of settings which you have to manually set.

In Lutris you can set default options for games on the Wine runner. You don't have to tweak them manually for every game. You can also reuse a prefix for games you install by selecting the same prefix path in a game's configuration. It's not as simple and intuitive as in some of the other launchers, but it works just fine.

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I do like the idea they sort of use Steam to promote GOG but it probably doesn't mean much to people who don't already have an idea of what GOG is

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I'm going to quote a couple of my own old comments on this website from the far far distant year of 2020.

The thing which gives me hope every time I see Linux marketshare go up, is the thought that more marketshare makes further growth even easier.

It's hard to gain marketshare when your platform has no organic third party support. But if you can achieve it, and bring users to your platform, then organic third party support will always follow. Developers and manufacturers of software and hardware always follow users. So if we get more users, we get more support.

At 0.91%, we're not exactly commanding a noticeable portion of the marketshare yet. But every little bit of growth means a bit more organic third party support. Which only makes it easier for more users to make the switch to Linux, as more of the stuff they want is already here.

It's really a feedback loop in both ways. No users means no developers. No developers means no users. The chicken and egg problem that has haunted Linux for years. But it goes the other way too, more users means more developers. More developers means more users.

The analogy I'd use is ... imagine that Linux gaming is like a 100m diameter ball of lead, on a flat plateau of land on top of a hill.

We're been trying to get the ball rolling. Once it does build up speed and start going down the hill, it will become an unstoppable force. We've been trying to get it rolling for years, but it's a 100m diameter ball of lead and we're just a dozen people pushing at the side, having no impact. The stubborn bastard wouldn't shift.

Valve's efforts with Steam, Proton, DXVK, ACO, Pressure Vessel, etc, is like bringing 4 giant trucks up to the top of the hill to help us out, they've strapped them up to the ball and are gunning the engines with the tires screeching. The ball is shifting a little, starting to move, a few inches at least, it's working but it's slow. If they keep at it for the long haul and the tires don't pop, eventually it will build up momentum and it'll work.

If it works, Valve is best positioned to benefit from the success. A new mainstream gaming platform will emerge and Valve will be the centre of it's universe.

I feel like... the ball is definitely off the top of the hill now and is starting to roll. Hang onto your butts!

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Quoting: fenglengshun

Quoting: devlandLutris forces you to configure each game from scratch while bottles gives you one prefix aka bottle in which you can run things however you want.

Uh, no? I myself just uses the same prefix (and the same system Proton CachyOS) for Lutris, Heroic, and Faugus.

Lutris forces you to configure each game from scratch as in changing the lutris settings and not the prefix itself.

Lutris has, for each game or program you run through it, a different set of settings which you have to manually set.

In bottles the settings are the same for each bottle including the prefix. That makes it way easier for me when I want to run a new game through it by simply adding a new shortcut within the bottle to the game exe file without having to redo the other settings like how you do in Lutris.

Anyway, you're free to use whatever you want. Just wanted to clarify what we're talking about. :)

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Really happy for their success. Is this the biggest release yet for a Godot title? It must be right?

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There is like 130M players by month, so 6,5M linux users. How can publishers afford to ignore such an enormous market share? Few businesses ever get the chance to reach such a vast potential audience.

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Implausible. But I'm still a happy hip... penguin if it get's corrected to a three dot something.

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I am looking at hwsurvey stats again, and considering MacOS also got its share almost doubled, it is not error in counting linux share, but most likely the surveyed set of machines just happend to have lower share of windows.

I don't understand why Valve picks random users for survey, instead of gathering data from every pc connected to Steam automatically. Random sampling is representative only if a set of samples is homogenic, but as we can see, it is not. China has high Windows share, for some reasons. Is there any legal issue with automatic data gathering?

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Quoting: StalePopcornIt's what I was thinking too. That's almost an Epic Games Store-level move if so

Epic Games pays other game publishers to exclusively release on EGS for a time, that's the complete opposite of having a GOG-codeveloped game (with the publisher being Capcom) being released on Steam.

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Simplified Chinese 22.75% -31.85%
English 39.09% +16.82%

No wonder we are %5 now

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Two unnamed distributions, both with quite high percentages.

My fault!

You see
I've been to the installfest with a distro with no name
It felt good to rid Windows users of their pain
La, la, la lala la la la, la, la

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If we're not niche any more, I'm going to need switching to FreeBSD! /s

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The numbers were certainly far greater than what even I could expect. Seeing the +3.10% growth is wild, even considering the usual Chinese New Year shake up, as that's +2% net since Jan. Sure, the numbers might get adjusted, but as they stand right now? Absolutely wild. I was freaking out seeing how the tracker would need to add another percent and some change to show the new number. We finally broke the 10% barrier for English as well. March has set records beyond my wildest expectations, and it feels so great.

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I genuinely have a hard time believing this is not some kind of mistake.

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I know steam surveys like this are also heavily influenced by chinese holidays for example. We had a dip a short while ago because they had a national holiday.

Although I haven't done thorough investigation myself, this user on reddit seems to have his doubt about the correctness of these statistics at the moment. [reddit-user-comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1sa2s6y/comment/odtgmcq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)

Happy to say that I am part of the linux-gamerbase!

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