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Quoting: ShmerlNot sure whey they used lower case variable though. Usual Mesa variables are upper case. Not that it matters much (I personally prefer lower case), but why not be consistent?

Because it's a dri option (lower case) and not a mesa environment variable (higher case). But yes, you can pass dri options as environment variables :)

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In this wine version add more work in csmt area (in senran kagura flickering in main menu is reduced considerably), maybe another titles with flickering possible show improvements

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Respect DX11 in trackmania turbo shows more textures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9flSvd6qJ8

Another interesting title is neptunia VII and now shows textures correctly compared last time, and now is possible see head character decorations and weapons in game (curiously character render dont appear and same with charecter render in talk sessions but in this sessions appears emotions icons)

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^_^

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"If we were paying a percentage of the original total cost, then, I could agree with you. However, when you're speaking of having to pay the full price of a game for two separate OSes that"

if you want to play the game both on windows and on linux? yes, pretty much no one has this use case, so i'm assuming you already have the game and dont want to pay again?
that is a proof that you wouldnt give then 1 cent in any case.




" beyond small technical differences"
just like port from an OS to another.

"The majority of the data that constitutes a game (the shear data size) is almost completely in the games assets (art, audio, scripts, etc)."
the most expensive things on a game are art and code.

" These assets do NOT change from OS to OS."
but the number of the users change from OS to OS, 1% vs 90%.
we are talking about port an game with 1% of the budget here or less assuming people already paid for an game that they had 10 years to give up on the hope of such game ever came to linux, so they purchased anyway the windows version.

"if the initial developer is even remotely competent, the code that constitutes core game mechanics would translate over between OSes with virtually no code change."
assuming that the game engine was made with multiplatform in mind, the code change will be virtually nothing.
but 10 years ago? no one bothered to port stuff to linux, most of the render code should be DirectX code, guess what, the game engine cost may have been split between all the games made with the same, in this case, they would have to deal with the cost of production of the game code+ the cost of production of the game engine to do the port.
assuming they own all the code, they dont have thirdyparty middlewares.

" so why should we have to pay full price if we've already done so once."
that is the problem? just wait for an steam sale.


"If you want to make this an issue of Entitlement, then the same right back at the developers too that feel they should be entitled to full cost twice, when the difference between a game on two OSes is the difference of (at an extreme) ~100 MEGAbytes in a package of 2 to 100 GIGAbytes."
~100MB more likely ~89% of the marketshare.

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Quoting: HadBabitsMy first elusive target attempt was a success :) I was nervous since I'm used to having the god of saves to resurrect me

This is what's making it sound really exciting. How long will they provide new special missions like this? Should I get Hitman soon? :)

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Quoting: t3gBtw, Valve did mention it in their changelog

Oh, yes, kinda. Although this was a Linux specific bug. Btw there is something wrong with your setup (cooling, vcore) if maxing out on core makes your PC crash.

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i dont understand the techinical details and i'm pretty sure most of the people also dont understand.

i think we should focus this kind of news in:
that games werent playable and now they are?
what games had some bugs and now they play fine?

maybe if we search for "cryptographic hashes" on wineHQ we can find some games that didnt run due to this feature not be implemented in wine, and test then again to report if they do run now?

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Let's do this.

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Quoting: lucifertdarkAnyone remember the game Mad Dog McCree?

I can't say that I remember it, but apparently my brother found a copy of it while thrifting:

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Quoting: cthulhusreignI picked it up. Installing right now. Not really sure what to expect other than ALIENS!!!!

Prepare yourself for multiple underwear changes.

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Anyone remember the game Mad Dog McCree?

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I thought after 70+ hours in game I'd be good enough to get a single target like him, even with all the security round him, boy was I wrong, another failed attempt here ending with my hitman face down in the dirt. I really hope they re-release all these elsuive targets into the wild after they get season 2 under way, even if it's a paid DLC I want another crack at them.

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Though I'm repeating myself :)
This is the best Alien game available on Linux.
I still haven't played through the DLCs yet, but I finished the main campaign and enjoyed it very very much.
I hope there'll be a sequel as the ending suggests one.
This game is also a perfect candidate for streaming :D
Let yourself get sucked into the dense atmosphere and you'll have one of the best gaming experiences out there.

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Quoting: artvandelay440Liam started his inquiry email with sudo, and it worked!

Awesome!

Bit off topic, but once again I am going through IT Crowd, and honestly wonder what is wrong with a co-worker of mine who said he couldn't make it through more than two episodes! He's an okay guy, just thought it was weird that someone in the computer world not liking it.

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Oh, cool a bugfix for AvP ;)
This game and its server are running very well with wine, the game got a platinum rating on winehq (for the DX9 version).
The server could be run headless with xvfb.
I've had a lot of fun playing multiplayer with friends in wine and we still play it from time to time.

Just a small question, is there a ppa for the recent stable version of wine (2.0 or above), or is the ppa:wine/wine-builds the one to go for?
As the ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa I've been using before doesn't have a amd64/i386 build for 2.0, and I didn't want to switch to -staging or -devel yet.

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Quoting: pbBut the same could happen in real life, right? ;-)

I swear I never died from pressing the wrong button.

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My first elusive target attempt was a success :) I was nervous since I'm used to having the god of saves to resurrect me, but luckily I'd done well enough on the Colorado map before so I could smuggle a sniper rifle onto the water tower. Went straight there, popped the target without a second thought, which put everyone a bit on edge XD Things nearly went tits up a few times after that, running off after getting spotted and the occasional gunfight here and there, but I eventually got to the safe (this is a lot harder when everything's location isn't marked!), got the ledger, and legged it out of there ^^

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Just purchased a copy as well. Watched a couple trailers and that's all I needed. Also.........Warhammer. Nuff' said.

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Aaaaand I failed the elusive target mission, as expected. I did manage to kill the target, but I failed to escape. Dude just had security all over him like a cheap suit at all times, I couldn't figure out a way to kill him unnoticed. Oh well, I'll try to do better on the next elusive target.

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There actually was a western game called Gunsmoke on the NES. It was one of my favourite games when I was a child.

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Quoting: mirohilarious. pressed the wrong button and died. elusive target failed. what a bs.

But the same could happen in real life, right? ;-)

I only had a chance to try one elusive target so far (the surgeons), I spent some time getting to know the facility, then following the targets to learn their routines and I actually found a great opportunity - or so I thought. I spotted the doctor alone in the garden, leaning over the railing. I looked around carefully to make sure that nobody is watching, and I pushed him over. One thing I failed to notice was that the heliport security on the far end of the chasm had it in their field of view. A few seconds later I found myself outgunned in a corner of the garden, elusive target failed... well, at least I did half the job done, I wonder how I will manage the current one, haven't attempted it yet.

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Huzzah! Will be picking up a copy today or tomorrow! Thanks for all you do Liam! ^_^

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hilarious. pressed the wrong button and died. elusive target failed. what a bs.

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Good to know, Teslagrad is quite good and more games based in that universe are always interesting.

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Quoting: KeyrockCan you play as orks? Please tell me you can play as orks.

I think right now Human and Chaos are the only playable races. Really hope that's a symptom of EA though and not the end plan. It'd be a deal-breaker for me if they aren't at least planning on releasing more playable races. It just ain't Warhammer if I can't play either Undead or Skaven.

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By the way, do we have any confirmation that Season 2 will also be ported?

I played S1 for 40h by now, and probably at least half of that time I've been doing bonus missions (both 100%'d) and challenges (still a long way to go) in Sapienza, my favourite setting.

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Quoting: ObsidianBlkIf you want to make this an issue of Entitlement, then the same right back at the developers too that feel they should be entitled to full cost twice

Full cost -- we're talking about 5 dollars (here in Australia). As minimum wage here is ~17 dollars an hour, I can honestly tell you it would take you more than 20 minutes (the cost of working to earn 5 dollars) to code a game client that could execute natively on linux using those game assets.

Quoting: ObsidianBlkNot exactly sure what your point is here.

It's exactly as I suggested: some third parties (whether private individuals or commercial entities) are paid, some third parties do it for free. Quite obviously by mentioning those two projects I was referring to game assets being made to load and execute close to original game but natively on linux.

Quoting: ObsidianBlkWE, as the consumers, should NOT be responsible for their payment

Of course we are responsible for their, porters, payment -- we either choose to buy the game under the current licensing agreement or we dont. You're the one making arbitrary definitions of what ought and ought not to be and what licensing and royalty agreements should and should not be.

Quoting: ObsidianBlkhaving to pay the full price ... two separate OSes ...beyond small technical differences

Not being able to run the game and its assets on a given platform is a pretty significant technical difference. To be perfectly frank, suggesting that a game from 2001 being made to execute natively on linux in 2017 is 'a cinch' suggests you've never been involved in large programming projects or or porting and reverse engineering other organisations code before. There is no indication, nor totally relevant, if the original and complete source code was available etc.

Quoting: ObsidianBlkThe majority of the data that constitutes a game (the shear data size) is almost completely in the games assets (art, audio, scripts, etc). These assets do NOT change from OS to OS.What changes is the binary data (executable and libraries), and, even then, if the initial developer is even remotely competent, the code that constitutes core game mechanics would translate over between OSes with virtually no code change.

Again. if you think that there was little work to do on porting 'competent' game code from 2001 then I'd be extraordinarily surprised if you've ever been involved in a large refactoring programming project let alone if reverse engineering was involved for incomplete source code after all these years.

And by what metric 'ought' to be released for free? what about remasters of Duke Nukem and Shadow Warrior from a few years ago? Their clients were mostly the only thing updated, no new assets, should you get those releases for free as you, for the sake of this example, had another copy from of those game assets for windows only?'

This is quite absurd to make this arbitrary distinction of when a company ought and ought not charge as a percentage of 'original game assets'. At the end of the day there is new code and, for whatever commercial reason, to get access to that content the developers and third party felt they would not give it away for free to those with the windows copy -- and you're free to either buy or not buy it.

And this is all about entitlement on behalf of the linux gaming community and exactly why there's this recurring theme that linux gamers have an almost delusional entitlement mentality to a supply that honestly doesn't care if we're in the ecosystem.

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Quoting: PitStrange, I still see the 24€:

And I see 38.29 € down from 44.99 € in Finland. That's some major regional pricing.

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Strange, I still see the 24€:

(I'm in Sweden, in case that matters)

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Quoting: ShmerlCSMT is a similar idea to what Mesa is doing with threaded dispatch, which probably in practice means, that using them both at the same time won't going to work well.

The same with Nvidia's __GL_THREADED_OPTIMISATIONS.
From the horse's mouth:

QuoteThey are the same thing in concept. Combining them is like trying to speed up a trip from LA to NY by driving a Ferrari inside the airplane. In general it doesn't do any good, increases latency and causes micro-stuttering.

https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/software/linux-gaming/40358-wine-s-big-command-stream-d3d-patch-set-updated?p=499577#post499577

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I am glad they will continue to support Linux. I really enjoyed Teslagrad - I even got all the achievements (and yes, it was pretty hard in places). I have a serious weakness for good Metroidvania games.

I hope the shift to a different play-style works out ok. I liked the minimalist storytelling of their first game, but gameplay is still important.

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