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Feral Interactive have pushed another patch to Mesa to help fix up the 'radv' Vulkan driver
By dmantione, 10 March 2017 at 6:07 pm UTC
I disagree. Downloading and compiling your own Mesa, patching your AMDGPU driver, I have done it all to play some of their games, is not a good user experience and not the user experience a game developer should aim for their customers. This is the user experience that Feral gives their AMD user at the moment, and yes, at this point it becomes their problem, because it is not a motivator to buy their games.
Ghost Blade HD, an intense bullet-hell taking inspirations from retro games is now on Linux
By psymin, 10 March 2017 at 6:06 pm UTC
Can you tell how many players this supports?
What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By wolfyrion, 10 March 2017 at 6:05 pm UTC
I have a Laptop 5-7 years old with an i5 and an NVIDIA 525M so I cant play any descent games.

(I think I should make a request to Liam to create a list for games that crappy computers can play)

Supper Games for shitty computers! :P

Anyway is ok , actually I am extremely busy these days with work and I dont even play any game on PS4.
Also I have realized that PC > Consoles any time any day. (if only exclusive tittles were not so exclusive :P)

Well happy gaming to all... ;)
What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By DelGro95, 10 March 2017 at 6:02 pm UTC
i buy other games but i play only rocket league :|
Feral Interactive have pushed another patch to Mesa to help fix up the 'radv' Vulkan driver
By Liam Dawe, 10 March 2017 at 6:02 pm UTC Likes: 1
None of which are Feral's issues.
Feral Interactive have pushed another patch to Mesa to help fix up the 'radv' Vulkan driver
By dmantione, 10 March 2017 at 5:59 pm UTC
No. I have both drivers installed with my RX460, where I can switch on reboot. Ignoring Feral games, the PRO driver has less user visible issues than the Mesa driver. I would very much like it to be otherwise, but in my experience three categories of issues reduce the experience with the Mesa driver:

- Bugs. For example, you got page faults while running Cities Skylines. This issue has meanwhile been fixed in Mesa, but bugs still plague Mesa users.
- User interventions. You need to set the right environment variables to run games. I.e. Bioshock Infinite.
- Unsupported OpenGL functionality.

Then there also the DAL story. While it has nothing to do with Mesa, but one way to get DAL working is to install the PRO driver. As without DAL you cannot connect 3 monitors, DAL is important for me.

Therefore, to get the best user experience, one still needs to install the PRO driver, I fear.
Pine, an open-world adventure game where the world adapts with your decisions
By ShabbyX, 10 March 2017 at 5:59 pm UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: qptain Nemo2. What can the developers even do to resolve those issues? They don't have the access to the source of the engine.

Except that they do. The source is open (not free, but just open), so they can actually fix stuff and send patches.

But I'm not as pessimistic as others here. They seem to like Linux (which likely means there is someone who uses Linux, but cannot use the Unity editor yet because it's unstable (hence the comment about the state of the editor on Linux)). Also, they talk about testing the game on various distros, so by all means, it looks like they know how to deal with Linux.
Feral Interactive have pushed another patch to Mesa to help fix up the 'radv' Vulkan driver
By Liam Dawe, 10 March 2017 at 5:52 pm UTC Likes: 4
Quoting: dmantione
Quoting: EikeDid we already here apologies from everybody that said that Feral doesn't do anything for supporting AMD?

On the contrary, that was with good reason. The AMD support for some of their games was simply unacceptable, and I would say still not up to the level desired. The PRO driver is still not supported by any of their games and upgrading tot the latest unreleased Git version of Mesa is not always the most practical solution for people to play a game.

Their work on Mesa however, is visible and very much appreciated.
The PRO driver has tons of issues. Mesa had been missing OpenGL features and performance work for a long time.

They can only work with what they have and they go above and beyond by actually helping with drivers.

Some people expect miracles.
Feral Interactive have pushed another patch to Mesa to help fix up the 'radv' Vulkan driver
By dmantione, 10 March 2017 at 5:49 pm UTC
Quoting: EikeDid we already here apologies from everybody that said that Feral doesn't do anything for supporting AMD?

On the contrary, that was with good reason. The AMD support for some of their games was simply unacceptable, and I would say still not up to the level desired. The PRO driver is still not supported by any of their games and upgrading tot the latest unreleased Git version of Mesa is not always the most practical solution for people to play a game.

Their work on Mesa however, is visible and very much appreciated.
What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By Geppeto35, 10 March 2017 at 5:23 pm UTC Likes: 3
Babies and children are best and funnier video games ever! :-PPP
And when they grow up, they even play and talk video games with you on their own linux machine they love tinkering! They enjoy fixing stuff with you on computers, with servomotors and raspberry pi, gardening with you, fixing stuff on car, tinkered sail and house, etc. while always laughing and making hugs. But yeeeees, the cost is definitely 2 years of sleep-and-personal-activities deficit... :-D
Feral Interactive have pushed another patch to Mesa to help fix up the 'radv' Vulkan driver
By Leopard, 10 March 2017 at 5:18 pm UTC Likes: 2
Feral is fantastic.I mean they're really doing some good backstage improvements like that.Not like releasing a game and just enjoying the money.
Feral Interactive have pushed another patch to Mesa to help fix up the 'radv' Vulkan driver
By Mohandevir, 10 March 2017 at 5:11 pm UTC
Quoting: liamdawe
Quoting: MohandevirDidn't they specified that a Vulkan version of Deus Ex: Mankind Divided is in the pipeline? ;)

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/feral-interactives-linux-ports-may-come-with-vulkan-sooner-than-we-thought-updated.8418
No they misspoke during that livestream and this has been cleared up a few times. To make it clear i've put a note at the top of that article.

Oh sorry! Didn't got that one. I still had the unupdated version of this article in mind.
Still it's sad. This game could have used the vulkan performance boost over OpenGL.
Future Stardock games may come to Linux thanks to Vulkan
By Liam Dawe, 10 March 2017 at 5:09 pm UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: edoAnd who is the one that claims than vulkan usage isn't a good news for linux? Directly like on this case, or indirectly like on wine, it helps.
I imagine that is aimed at me, due to my post about the Switch possibly supporting Vulkan.

There's a big difference between the two. This is an actual developer directly mentioning Linux, not a random platform having support for it.

I say it again to be clear. Vulkan is great, Vulkan is good for Linux, but Vulkan does not mean Linux. I think some people got the wrong idea about what I said because i don't hype every platform possibly using Vulkan.
Feral Interactive have pushed another patch to Mesa to help fix up the 'radv' Vulkan driver
By Liam Dawe, 10 March 2017 at 5:06 pm UTC Likes: 5
Quoting: EikeDid we already here apologies from everybody that said that Feral doesn't do anything for supporting AMD?
No those idiots either went silent or chose to complain about something else.
Feral Interactive have pushed another patch to Mesa to help fix up the 'radv' Vulkan driver
By Eike, 10 March 2017 at 5:03 pm UTC Likes: 7
Did we already hear apologies from everybody that said that Feral doesn't do anything for supporting AMD?
What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By Eike, 10 March 2017 at 5:01 pm UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: Geppeto35With one baby of few months

Congratulations!

Quoting: Geppeto35hard to play for me (one hour max per day, and only when he is sleeping, so no immersive games...don't do child :-P )

Man, you could have really told that some months ago...! :p
What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By Geppeto35, 10 March 2017 at 4:59 pm UTC
Quote@g000h Flying Wild Hog HQ that Linux gamers play their games *BECAUSE* I really want them to hurry up and release Shadow Warrior 2 on Linux. Come on guys, pleeeeeese!

Yep, I don't know Shadow warrior but since the 2 is out, I would also love to try it ... I need more lives IRL
What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By Geppeto35, 10 March 2017 at 4:57 pm UTC Likes: 1
With one baby of few months, hard to play for me (one hour max per day, and only when he is sleeping, so no immersive games...don't do child :-P ) : Chivalry, Unreal Tournament 2017 (last mode with flag is excellent!), Civ 6 (but I found it is too slow and limitative in its gameplay mechanics to enjoy, I still prefer Civ 5!)

I would play if I have more time: Mordheim with my skaven squad (even if half the pack is handicapped!), finish Pillar of Eternity, Okhlos: Omega and XCom2:long war, begin to understand Total War Warhammer (wow! I tried to understand one hour...f**k that sounds complicated and confused!) and discover Alien:isolation I buyed on Feral Thanks to new here ^^

My son of twelve plays Civ 6 (but he has the same feeling as me and played yesterday on civ 5!), Rimworld and Heroes of M&M 2

On windows boot, I still play Everspace to unwind and Ghost of a Tale at four hands with my son of twelve. I dream that those two ones come to be ported on linux!
On Android, Kingdom Rush series (all finished yet but still funny to replay), jewel legend and Punch quest

I don't know MadMax and I would love to buy it on Feral but ... in my situation, is it serious? ... out of fundind Feral for lovely future ports? ^^
Ghost Blade HD, an intense bullet-hell taking inspirations from retro games is now on Linux
By ronnoc, 10 March 2017 at 4:56 pm UTC Likes: 2
This game looks great from my POV - as a big fan of the genera (going all the way back to PC Engine / TurboGrafx 16-CD titles Gate of Thunder / Lords of Thunder / R-Type / Sidearms / etc/).

I have to also put in a plug for the best bullet-hell on Linux, that apparently no one knows about, Steel Rain! It's..in a word..epic. With RPG and building elements (via obtaining power-ups through planetary colonization and building) and a deep story mode (for a game like this). It's about to get a major new update as well. I highly encourage fans of shumps to check it out.
Mesa 17.1 release is now scheduled for May
By redshift, 10 March 2017 at 4:55 pm UTC Likes: 2
Quoting: TheRiddickThe nouveau drivers are making progress and once NVIDIA is pushed into releasing the appropriate firmware files then it will likely perform extremely competitively VS MESA once that happens, this can be shown in the 500 or 600 series results with the driver as those have the full firmware files to allow reclocking et al.
Except reclocking/power management on 500/600 isn't automatic at all, which makes it useless for everyday 3d use.
Feral Interactive have pushed another patch to Mesa to help fix up the 'radv' Vulkan driver
By Liam Dawe, 10 March 2017 at 4:50 pm UTC
Quoting: MohandevirDidn't they specified that a Vulkan version of Deus Ex: Mankind Divided is in the pipeline? ;)

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/feral-interactives-linux-ports-may-come-with-vulkan-sooner-than-we-thought-updated.8418
No they misspoke during that livestream and this has been cleared up a few times. To make it clear i've put a note at the top of that article.
What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By opera, 10 March 2017 at 4:47 pm UTC Likes: 1
Despite the usual CSGO and Rocket League, I played a lot of Hitman. I finished 4 Episodes so far. Along with Life is Strange this has been the best singleplayer experience for a long time. Hitman with its sandbox-like approach is so much fun to play. The replayability of the levels is so high that I played a single episode all day over and over again trying to do all the different assissinations and challenges.
What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By ronnoc, 10 March 2017 at 4:46 pm UTC
For me, it's Transport Fever, 7 Days To Die (On a great multiplayer server), and Rocket League. I also just received a free copy of Civilization VI via an RX 480 video card purchase and am looking forward to getting lost in it as well...time permitting.
What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By Hamish, 10 March 2017 at 4:40 pm UTC
I should really finish Hard West - I got to one of the endings of the main campaign, but I still have to complete the side story and the DLC. I keep getting distracted though, sometimes by old favourites - I am also two chapters into Blood II: The Chosen through WINE at the moment.
Feral Interactive have pushed another patch to Mesa to help fix up the 'radv' Vulkan driver
By Mohandevir, 10 March 2017 at 4:38 pm UTC
Didn't they specified that a Vulkan version of Deus Ex: Mankind Divided is in the pipeline? ;)

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/feral-interactives-linux-ports-may-come-with-vulkan-sooner-than-we-thought-updated.8418
Feral Interactive have pushed another patch to Mesa to help fix up the 'radv' Vulkan driver
By M@GOid, 10 March 2017 at 4:33 pm UTC Likes: 2
Sometimes is easy for us to forget how complex a modern game is, using all layers of software between it and the hardware. With so many people working on these different layers, is interesting to see people on the higher end of the layers making contributions to the low end.

In the console games, it is said that game developers have so much access to the lower end that they can program to the "bare metal". Probably the most famous for these practices are the Naughty Dog studio, responsible for really good graphics for the hardware in games like Uncharted and The Last of Us.

So it is nice to see game porters in Linux having the initiative to mess with the lower end of the software to make their ports perform better. This is also a good example for other games developers that work in titles for the PC platform.
What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By CFWhitman, 10 March 2017 at 4:26 pm UTC
I'm very busy right now with other things. I have a lot of music I'm supposed to learn and practice on my ocarinas for a mixed ensemble that roped me into playing with them. So, I feel a bit guilty when I devote time to playing a game when I don't have that music learned yet.

However, most recently I've been playing Victor Vran. It's a Diablo/Torchlight type game. It's really quite good as this type of game goes (though some of the challenges require an annoying amount of perfection). The art is quite impressive and it's interesting so far.

Of course the list of games in my queue goes up much faster than I play through them. I have a number of good games that I haven't gotten around to playing yet, but I still am tempted to buy more when I encounter a good deal or a particularly interesting game.
Mad Max is currently 50% off on the Feral Store
By fabertawe, 10 March 2017 at 4:24 pm UTC
Quoting: tuubi
Quoting: darkszluf
Quoting: tuubiMad Max gave me ~90 entertaining hours of gameplay. Easily worth the price. Go grab it already.

how many times did you played trough it? i've got 50 hours and that's 2 and a half of playtrough of mine.
Once, but I'm one of those weird people who just can't help but thoroughly explore every nook and cranny. Also beat every racing challenge and whatnot.

91 hours here and totally in sync with you regarding the exploring. I take my time and immerse myself. Loved the game, fantastic.
What have you been playing recently and what do you think about it?
By igimenez, 10 March 2017 at 4:11 pm UTC
Eschalon Book1, very nice rpg. And the alwais present league of legends
Future Stardock games may come to Linux thanks to Vulkan
By femtomatic, 10 March 2017 at 4:11 pm UTC Likes: 1
I played a lot of GalCiv2 when Windows was all I knew and would really love to have GalCiv3 under linux, but I'm not holding my breath.

Part of Stardock's business model is to sell customization softwares for the Windows desktop, I don't know how it compares to their game sales but I'm pretty sure it has increased significantly since Win8... So to be realistic, I doubt they would spend a significant amount of money and energy cater to linux users unless they see a potential for meaningful profits.

Or they could see us as potential customers for their other products "Look, we made Windows as customizable as KDE! All you have to do is pay us a fee to be able to modify a software that you already paid for..." God I'm glad I switched to linux!
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