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I prefer to install from the offline installers myself.

The offline installers are fine-ish, but in some cases, they can lag behind the game versions available in Galaxy (or alternate clients like Heroic, obviously).

For example, as of this writing, the offline installer for I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream is still shipping the ScummVM release and not the newer Unity release from 12 days ago.

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I can only say, thank you Linux community, thank you Linux for still being my home after all these years, specially knowing how some other system has treated their users recently.

Thank you Gamingonlinux for your updates. Thank you Liam as it's always a pleasure to follow your website.

Almost all of you if not all, are using Linux and contributing to open source in one way or another just by the use of it.

Nope, I'm not drunk or similar. I just felt the urge to say it.

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16GB demo....crazy lol.

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They should be freaking out because we shouldn’t be allowing it at all. Beyond the ethical and legal implications for an open source project, there’s also the outsized environmental impact of every single prompt because of the data centers required to host these LLMs. It’s not good.

Again, you (and the people freaking out) are missing the point : it's not a question of being pro or anti AI. AI is here, it's being used, and neither Fedora nor ANY project, open-source or not, have the means to enforce or forbid the use of AI from their contributors. Just like : if I build a chair, there's no way to know I used a saw of brand X or Y.

I mean, what would you have them do ? Requiring the installation of a spyware on the contributors' computers and manually review recorded videos to make sure the coder never used an AI ever ? Who would take the time to view those videos ? Who would spy on the coders ? What if the project has several contributors, or if the contributor used another person's work, like, for example, dependencies or external libraries ? How do you check that ?

Again, and finally. I'm not making a pro-AI speech, your concerns are perfectly valid. But your expectations are unrealistic and unfeasible.

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I'm conscious about my boot times, so getting ~2 seconds faster boots is a nice feature!

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Wasn't always Fedora the testbed for everything new?

Not every new thing is the same.
It would be new to have the default desktop do a constant strobe effect at the best frequency for inducing seizures. And yet, new though the idea is, I suspect some would have quibbles about it. Some people just don't understand progress.

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And STILL people are freaking out about it. For like... no reason ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

They should be freaking out because we shouldn’t be allowing it at all. Beyond the ethical and legal implications for an open source project, there’s also the outsized environmental impact of every single prompt because of the data centers required to host these LLMs. It’s not good.

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Glad that there are still people here. You are not bots right? Right?

...I can't legally answer that.

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Hmmm... Seems some of you guys are completely misunderstanding the stance of Fedora on AI ? :/

What they've done is basically acknowledging the fact that it's impossible to check whether their contributors are using AI or not in their developments. So they're doing the only reasonable thing about it : officially allowing people to use it.

And since most developers already use AI, whether it's simple auto-complete agents in IDEs or problem-solving agents, their decision has little impact whatsoever. They wouldn't have a way to enforce an anti-AI policy. It's not even a matter of pro VS anti AI debate.

And STILL people are freaking out about it. For like... no reason ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Be sure to leave a good tip. </sarcasm>

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Just the other day got a new-old (second-hand) tiny computer for my father (because his previous one was on it's last legs) and while it came with win10 I decided to put Linux on it. Started with OpenSUSE but while it installed OK, it didn't use selected language (despite setting it in the installer). After trying to fix that and bumping agains "use yarn" (which is not present in Leap 16) I decided to try fedora and EverythingJustWorked and it's brilliant... really liking the OS.

And the KDE on this tiny machine (Intel Core i5-7500T + ntel HD Graphics 530) works amazing!

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Love Fedora. Have been running the KDE version for years. But everyone is focused on AI. I have been experimenting with a self hosted Ollama instance and I notice that I am becoming a very lazy programmer. My fear is that people will lose their creativity. The power to figure something our themselves. And before AI we went to forums to discus things. Together. People talking to people. Now I am talking to a bot.

Glad that there are still people here. You are not bots right? Right?

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Mortal Kombat II is still the best game in the series.

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Looks pretty interesting, time to give the demo a spin!

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I for one am really happy about this. 2 years on fedora and so far it's been a bliss compared to all other distro I tried.

(as for the AI part, posted my opinion in the other post as that was more relevant than here)

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I don't understand some criticisms.
Wasn't always Fedora the testbed for everything new?

Is there any more suitable candidate to test AI-created code on Linux?

Am I the only who recalls the backlash when they were first to make Gnome 3 and wayland default?

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I hate the AI circlejerk, the models are built by greedy corporations appropriating the work of thousands without a second thought. Then they sell it to the mass (keeping the money for themselves ofc). Then most people proceed to use "AI" to generate a flood of approximate junk they smear all over the world. The noise makes it harder to reach quality information and reinforces the use of LLM models.

But with that said, LLMs are just tools. Whether they're used for good or bad is in the hand of the wielder.

For example, Daniel Stenberg publicly (and rightfully) [denounced a flood of "ai slop" security reports to cURL](https://www.linkedin.com/posts/danielstenberg_hackerone-curl-activity-7324820893862363136-glb1). But [the same person also acknowledged](https://mastodon.social/@bagder/115241241075258997) the relevance of a [massive report openly built using "AI-based" tools](https://joshua.hu/llm-engineer-review-sast-security-ai-tools-pentesters).

If anything, open source projects are the most rightful beneficiaries of LLM-powered improvements since most available models heavily leverage open source code.

I'd much rather trust a project that acknowledge LLM-based tools and handle them appropriately than one which pretends they don't exist and nobody uses them.

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KDE 6.5 on Fedora waiting room..

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We should go back to calling game AI "CPU behavior"

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I'm a bit meh when it comes to Fedora officially accepting AI because a large number of (probably most) packages are pulled in directly from upstream. So while other distributions may not have a policy on AI one way or the other, if upstream is using AI they will have little to no say unless they want to re-create everything themselves, or start cherry-picking and rewriting patches without AI.

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they are used to be the ones people come for help, now they find themselves to be the ones that need help

i was the one doing Win95, 98, XP and 7 maintenance for the whole family until Microsoft started nagging for Win 7 >> Win 10 upgrades (before EOL)

boy was I happy when i figured just how much less maintenance Linux Mint requires!

auto-updates that apply fast, silently and cleanly?! what is this arcane miracle?!!! 🤨

app configs that i can copy-paste into a user folder on fresh install instead of reconfiguring?! wtf! 😮

what do you mean with "it doesn't run slower after 2 years"?!! 🥹

and my personal favourite: there is no spoon... and no regedit.exe 🤯

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Imo we don't really need a galaxy client, I use it on windows 11 and it's just not that great

I'd love to see them support linux ports more, it sucks how some games have native linux on steam but not gog

I'd also love to see them just fix up their current games that support linux. Hotline Miami 1 and 2 on gog require hunting down old 32bit libs to get them to even run!

Steam? Install game, play game. Why? The steam runtime includes alot of common libs.

Sure, I imagine some old linux ports on steam still might require manually grabbing the required libs, as is the nature with linux distros evolving. Still be nice if GOG could try and include some of these required libraries.

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I do really wish they would embrace Linux more. I know it also is a cost but I'd love to see a Linux Galaxy client.

Or, at the very least, work more closely with the FOSS community to produce a Linux client (or clients) that integrates as tightly with GOG's services as GOG's proprietary Windows client does.

Not that it effects me so much -- I prefer to install from the offline installers myself. Since I mostly play offline, achievements and chat features don't really matter to me either.

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I wonder if they're preparing for a single-player-only GOG release?

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This should make the players happy. The original approach was more historically accurate but I imagine not as satisfying from a game-playing perspective. I wonder if they will leave players the choice of which approach they wish to use?

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IMO, GOG's preservation efforts are kinda lacking. Having games be playable is fine, but having them play *well* is another, and GOG hasn't done much on that front.

I agree, their preservation is typically an ambulance at the bottom of a cliff but I feel it's far, far better than nothing. They do add enhancements to some games [which you can see here](https://www.gog.com/en/gog-preservation-program#GOG_PRESERVATION_PROGRAM_STORIES_SECTION) under 'See what we improved'. I'm sure if they had more capital they would be able to invest in larger improvements for a broader selection of games.

I do really wish they would embrace Linux more. I know it also is a cost but I'd love to see a Linux Galaxy client.

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This latest DLC ...

"Wildlife Experts will be called upon to rescue, heal, raise, and re-wild an incredible variety of creatures; ..."

Isn't that more of a zoo thing than a museum thing? Given the choice of title, clearly the devs must realize this inconsistency.

I would have expected a section like the museum in my hometown maintained, with beautiful displays of animal models, in a recreation of their natural environment, put together by taxidermists. Although, I imagine taxidermy might be offensive to modern-day animal rights activists. They could replace the taxidermy models with really detailed, painted statues, I suppose...

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Yeah, I'm not sure why they're using... 0.74 still? Probably some agreement they made at some point that they never bothered to reconsider? Not sure about the licensing on all the forks.

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Why can't they create an AI spin and call it FedorAI?

Because puns make some people unreasonably angry, and they probably get enough death threats as is.

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I'm running into this frustration on a near-daily basis as a game dev!

What I've personally settled on is to just use more specific descriptors, which is honestly a good thing since it's less ambiguous anyway. Mostly this means referring to "NPC behavior" since that's the most common use case. Internally, "AI" is actually far from a standard term in most game dev contexts, with terms like state machines, nav systems etc. being used instead since they are a lot more specific about what is actually being talked about.

Of course plenty of games aren't really focused around "NPCs" as a concept in that way, for instance strategy games - but there too it's pretty easy to just describe what's being talked about ("This RTS has really advanced computer opponents") so really, I think almost all of this comes down to just inserting a little specificity to things

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