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Quoting: CentrisToo late. Already got rid of FF.

Maybe I am of an older generation, but why this on/off view?
Mozilla says they going to do AI in the future somewhere, it's not clear exactly how or what this exactly means or how it will be incorporated but you drop it like a hot potato and suddenly overnight they are evil.
The world is many shades of gray, not just black and white, see how it onfolds and then take a decision.

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They say focus on tactical battles but it didn't really look all that tactical in the trailer.

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some of those assets seems like they were draw on top of assets from pokémon or rpg maker...
or that they havent even changed anything on the original assets...
i wonder if this game is free from copyright violation or it might be taken down at any moment...

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I apologize to my fellow community members for not reading the whole of this thread (only about 0.5 of the first page 😔). I'd still like to perform a mid devil's advocate routine here. (I hope I will see any replies even if I unsubscribe the rest/whole thread.)

First of all, many people live in different (social) media bubbles than we do. To them AI *is* the next big thing. And missing that train is like not getting on board with agriculture, the printing press, the industrial revolution or the internet (totally plausible). Many people do not see it for the bubble that you do. Some of such people might be in FF upper management, board of directors, hedge funds or idk what their whole tree of stakeholders are.

Secondly, it's hard being FF:

• When they try something new that others aren't doing - people complain.


• When they try nothing new - people complain.


• When they try something new that everyone else is doing - people complain.

Many of their horrible crimes I saw listed, they do for the evil that is money to pay for the developers to maintain *your* browser. Someone somehow has to invest enough effort. How would you attain that effort within capitalism? Maybe volunteer effort can maintain a modern secure browser fully - I guess we'll find out if FF go bust.

I still remember when many Linux threads (I was on Reddit back then 😅) were full of hatred and vitriol for SystemD ruining Linux/Unix. Alas, when push came to shove, it turned out that the chamber I was in was not filled with the shouts of people backed with effort or even money to fund a fork. It existed, but it was not this mass uprising the echo made it seem.

I, too, don't want AI in my browser. I, too, find AI trained on stolen work utterly unethical. I, too, find AI "assistance" garbage. [Until one of these days it might suddenly not be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE610X3weik). None of us know what the present reality is, even less so the future.

I'm not asking to confiscate your pitchforks. Anger at perceived line crossed is adaptive and fair, harm though - exceedingly rarely so. I'm only asking you remember that each of the employees at FF is a person. And it is far too easy for an anonymous mob to harm real people with their anger. You might not send death-threats, doxx, or worse... but your words might incite someone less socially adjusted to do so. Maybe you can put some tennis balls on your pitchforks somehow 👩‍🌾🥎

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Quoting: StellaI should get through my massive backlog before buying anything new 😆

Especially since at least some of these will be cheaper next year. No rush.

Unless, of course, there's grounds to expect a "remaster" which is in fact a downgrade that also involves the superior original release getting delisted. Curious times we live in, yes?

That said, I grabbed Kingdom Come 2 when I still need to finish 1. That's a "support the devs" case for me. Unique voice, hope they make more games.

Otherwise, I liked what I played of Hollow Knight and will get back to it someday, but I'm not that into the idea of a harder sequel so I have zero interest in Silksong. I do really like the devs, though, so if I do finish Hollow Knight and feel up for more...

Expedition 33 just doesn't look appealing to me with its absurdly high concept idea and silly art style, and the combat system isn't helping its case. Also, I'm now sick of it just by existing on the Internet. Wouldn't be fair to the game if I played it in the height of the furor. Maybe a 70% off for me, but I'd need to run out of games to play AND be starved for jrpgs (of which I have a healthy - and growing - backlog) even then.

Dispatch - don't care.

The shooty thing I already forgot the title of - ...

Basically what I'm saying is that I seek to incur the wrath of the Dorito Pope.

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I'll take my usual approach to the Steam Awards -- vote for anything with Linux support, ignore any categories which don't have a viable vote option.

I think the only games I played from 2025 were Civilisation VII (pants), and Little Sim World (alright, but very early access.)

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Split-Fiction has been my favourite game to come out of 2025, just finished it today with my partner

Runs great, and is even better then it takes-two, it's really refreshing to play a game like this in 2025, so many unquie and fun set pieces, twists and turns. I really wish more games like this were made today!

I might pick up Lego Skywalker saga over the sale to continue with that splitscreen/couch co-op fun

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IMHO the issue with Firefox "adopting AI" is way overblown. Yes, AI is not great (especially if it's done with speculative bubble and cash burning by big-tech) and it's questionable ethics wise but… sometimes it's usefull and people do use it…

Also what's the alternative? Crappy reskins of chromium? :/

At least Mozilla seems to listen and reacted to the backlash. Imagine google doing that…

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The thing about xbox controller is so annoying… they are way better than the PS ones and I love the quality (MS had made really great pheriperials in the past) but the need to use windows to updated it makes me furios… I can't wait for valve controllers to arrive!

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I bought Flick Shot Rogues earlier this month since it was on sale until today. Figured it wouldn't get an even bigger discount immediately after since it's a recent release. Guess what!

That'll be it for me this season, not much time to play.

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This is when the follow up part of my game, Don't Hurt My Wallet!, kicks in; having been on the fence about certain games, when sales on them kick in and I'm still on the fence, I don't really want it and remove it from my Wishlist. Your wallet and inability to choose a game to play will thank you!

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Quoting: GoEsr

But I do ask that you don't have the opposite of faith. Like, try not to be determined that we're going to do the wrong thing here.

Experience?

we cannot have the opposite of faith or the reverse. So um... Quantum faith ?

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Quoting: no_information_hereb) Vivaldi has made a public no-AI statement. I prefer FF, but a good alternative is sitting there waiting.

I would be careful about Vivaldi as the CEO has made some weird political statements in the past - though I'm no longer able to find any of them at all potentially due to search being scrubbed, as for Proton (this being relevant because Vivaldi ships free Proton VPN) I'm not sure of it sometimes but personally I don't use their services except email.

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But I do ask that you don't have the opposite of faith. Like, try not to be determined that we're going to do the wrong thing here.

Experience?

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"We've served you raw sewage with your meal, but don't worry! It's in a separate glass in case you don't want it."

Even if we charitably assume that there won't be any caveats with it being opt-in or with the kill switch, it still reflects poorly on Mozilla that they're even pursuing this garbage in the first place.

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Quoting: sarmadIf everything is opt-in as this dev says, then I think their new CEO simply gave the wrong message by calling it an AI browser.

So the CEO of Mozilla has zero idea about the product they are managing. Yet we have to trust a dev that says " I hope we can (re)gain your trust here. I don't personally work on this stuff, "

So one dev who doesnt work on it and a CEO who called it an Ai Browser.

Im getting serious " Everything Computer " vibes here.

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Quoting: sarmadIf everything is opt-in as this dev says, then I think their new CEO simply gave the wrong message by calling it an AI browser.

So the CEO of Mozilla has zero idea about the product they are managing. Yet we have to trust a dev that says " I hope we can (re)gain your trust here. I don't personally work on this stuff, "

So one dev who doesnt work on it and a CEO who called it an Ai Browser.

Im getting serious " Everything Computer " vibes here.

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Yeah, no... Not givin' these folks another thin dime until they address the many bugs in their game that cause random freezes and crashes and loss of character controls resulting in the loss of entire vehicles and literally all equipment in your character's inventory. So far I have two entire vehicles trapped behind the cliff faces of the game world (of a limited number of vehicles you're even allowed to craft) and "support" basically tells me there's nothing they can do. Can't retrieve them, can't destroy them, and "support" can't do anything? No thanks. I'm done.

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What do you think to this? Let us know in the comments.

First: I trust the devs far more than the ceo's. Unfortunately, it will not be developers who will be making the decisions.

As for what was said: Single "ai" switch is good. Admittedly, the bar has been set low by big tech (and firefox itself), but I think I would have been happy with this even in a world where fake intelligence was not being shoved down user's throats left and right.

The devil is, of course, in the details. For example, they could be planning on a malicious implementation where tons of actual useful features are linked to the kill switch and users are faced with the choice of either all or none of them.

Ideal implementation would be a single section in the settings where every single "ai" thingy is listed, master switch on top to enable/disable all, with fine grained control to switch individual items on and off.

Which still leaves the other elephant in the room, though: mozilla has the fundamental conflict of interest of being an advertisement company delivering a browser. Fine for users who like ads, but not so good for those who demand a browser that is truly designed for them.

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"All AI features will also be opt-in"

This is the important piece. A kill switch is no use if features aren't opt-in in the first place.

If everything is opt-in as this dev says, then I think their new CEO simply gave the wrong message by calling it an AI browser. There is a difference between being an AI browser, and having AI features that people can trigger if/when needed. I personally wouldn't mind some AI features that I can trigger when needed, like page summarizing, grammar correct, translations, etc.

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YES! I just glanced at my wishlist sorted by discount and there's a ton of stuff under $10. Going to probably spend way too much money and just grow the backlog to infinity!

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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OMG

🤣😂😅

these fools think we are THAT dumb? Man I needed a good laugh this afternoon, thank you :)

FF/mozilla is WAY too far gone for a 5 second bluesky post to make one iota of difference. Librewolf and Zen are both rock solid alternatives. Zen is going great for me right now.

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As I said in the previous thread: I like Firefox, will continue to use it, and I will take Mozilla at their word. If there's a "kill switch" that lets me turn off all AI features so I don't have to use it, then that's all I ask for in this regard.

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I should get through my massive backlog before buying anything new 😆

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"Stellaris Prime" sounds like a Paradox/Amazon team-up. 😟

But this does remind me of the Savage Planet series of games. I remember vaguely hearing about them on release, feeling mildly interested, but never following up and checking them out thoroughly, so I'll have to go do that. 🙂

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Quoting: williamjcm25.3.0/1 had a bug that forced me to downgrade to 25.2.7 if I wanted to use SteamVR, so let's hope that one's fixed too.

Also had to do the same thing here. Not in 25.3.2 but it looks like there's a Merge Request open with a fix!

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/SteamVR-for-Linux/issues/836#issuecomment-3665458999 -> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/38987

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a) There should have already been a kill switch. I shouldn't have had to go into about:config and mess with a bunch of settings over the last few browser updates.

b) Vivaldi has made a public no-AI statement. I prefer FF, but a good alternative is sitting there waiting.

c) Mozilla really needs to move the HQ away from San Francisco and Silicon Valley. The toxic inward-looking techbro culture is corrosive, no matter how much they might try to be different. Almost anywhere else would be better, maybe even Europe.

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Quoting: Kimyrielle

Quoting: CentrisToo late. Already got rid of FF.

Hmm... now you made me curious what you replaced it with. The only other widespread browser engines I am aware of are made by Google and Apple. And replacing the only major free browser engine with a corporate product would be an interesting choice, wouldn't it?

In my case, I switched to LibreWolf. It's Firefox based but with enhanced tracking protection (anti fingerprinting) and with all the stupid things Firefox has been adding lately also removed.

Took me like 5 minutes to switch: install the browser, copy the profile from Firefox and done, I had all my tabs, all my extensions, the configuration, etc.

The only warning is due to the enhanced tracking protection, some pages might break (e.g. typically calendar apps will show incorrect time due to timezone spoofing) or if you use dark theme it might get ignored. You can disable the protections globally or per site to go back to the correct behavior.

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Quoting: doragasuToo late, today I switched to LibreWolf after literally DECADES of loyalty, and everything is working great, I'm not going back unless things change A LOT.

Also about that killswitch, let me guess, it will be opt-out and will reset each time a update is installed, right?

btw read those settings above. They are currently enabled in Librewolf too.

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Too late, today I switched to LibreWolf after literally DECADES of loyalty, and everything is working great, I'm not going back unless things change A LOT.

Also about that killswitch, let me guess, it will be opt-out and will reset each time a update is installed, right?

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