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i hope no deb, cuz i like to have my stuff installed portable, not in the /usr folders.
if there is deb tho. u can pretty much extract it and probably use with any distro, with some small symlinking probably.

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Hard to know what their plans will be for packaging. Windows and MacOS have a single binary that downloads the rest of Steam and then includes games in its own self-contained location (pretty much how Desura works). That's definitely an option, but who knows how they're planning to handle dependencies. I did shoot them an email suggesting that might be a good topic (amongst others) for a future blog post.

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Quoting: "Bumadar, post: 4961, member: 93"ooh i am proven wrong :) now lets hope that eventhough they develop on ubuntu there will be none .deb releases

I hope that it will be distributed in .tar archive just like Desura. That way I can install it wherever I want and then move into another partition if needed. I don't like games packaged in .deb installing to system directories. Games should be put in their own places.

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ooh i am proven wrong :) now lets hope that eventhough they develop on ubuntu there will be none .deb releases

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just call me sceptical, but i dont yet believe the impact will be that huge, i dont see a game developers suddenly jump the band wagon, but i would love to be proven wrong :)

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Finally! Left 4 Dead 2 without rebooting to windows

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Well Valve Timing is an issue but considering they have said that the major features of steam already work it's pretty much polishing on the Steam client they are doing right now, so the end of 2012 seems like quite an achievable goal especially when you look at the people's experience that they have hired recently.

Very very exciting time to be a Linux user right now, giving me the kick I needed to really try to get my optimus nvidia chip to work, thankfully it's getting there thanks to nvidias latest beta driver.

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Quoting: "liamdawe, post: 4952, member: 1"Well this put a smile on my face, they must be quite far along now if they are officially announcing it.

It's very hard to say. You know how Valve are with dev timeframes. I'm hoping that the blog will provide us with some interesting insights to keep us going until the client and ports of L4D2, etc. are ready.

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Well this put a smile on my face, they must be quite far along now if they are officially announcing it.

Steam thankfully does have an offline mode. You need to buy and activate online but since steam is an online distribution it doesn't bother me, that and I have a good few friends on it is a bonus for me to be online anyway.

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:/

Being more of a single-player person, the one I am most looking forward too is portal 2 (+ portal 1, which I already played after getting it for free during the Mac Steam release. Might buy it this time, even if they release it for free again. :) ).

That and all the half-life episodes I never played.

I'm still slightly worried about DRM issues. I haven't played any AAA title lately, but reading about the direction Blizzard is taking scares me a bit sometimes. I know steam requires online activation, but I will refuse to buy any game requiring me to have an online connection while playing.

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Quoting: "Kame, post: 4947, member: 102"Oh god, I hope they don't release TF2, switching to Linux was the only way I stopped playing that game!

I can't see them doing a launch without TF2. I'm pretty sure that was ready for the MacOS launch as well, right?
It pretty much feels like it's their Source showrunner at the moment, as Half-Life has dropped off the radar a bit.

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Oh god, I hope they don't release TF2, switching to Linux was the only way I stopped playing that game!

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Quoting: "Hamish, post: 4944, member: 6"It is interesting that you managed to beat Larabel to this. :p

And that I managed to provide quotes and link to something other than GOL articles? :D

Edit: For clarification, that is a good natured jibe ^_^

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It is interesting that you managed to beat Larabel to this. :P

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More and more supporting evidence. It's hard to divine exactly what their plans may be.

I can't see Valve taking Steam anywhere that Source can't go , and I can't really see them launching Source anywhere that Steam can't go (unless they're open sourcing the engine, which I think is probably unlikely too).

If it does see a Linux launch, Steam would have a pretty big impact, Bumadar. As I speculated during the Desura Linux launch (which sadly, wasn't quite as showy as I was hoping for), the real upshot of Steam coming to Linux would be its ability to highlight Linux as a potential gaming platform to non-Linux users and developers. Right now, a lot of developers feel that Linux is too niche and problematic to spend time on, and we already know that many users dual boot and use Windows for gaming (which I can't really understand, since I've been running pretty much every game I care about under Wine for the past 6 years). Letting these people know that Linux isn't as bad a gaming platform as they thought is what's going to make big shifts happen, I think.

My understanding was that the "Steam Box" idea (at least so far as it's been explained to me) was sort of like an open hardware spec so that vendors and individuals could build their own systems and use/sell them as Steam compatible gaming machines. If this were to happen and be Linux based, then I can't really see why that wouldn't also work on the Linux desktop.

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We can also expect [URL='http://store.steampowered.com/app/107800/?snr=1_7_suggest__13']Rochard[/URL] on Linux.

I've asked developers in the [URL='http://www.rochardthegame.com/en/support/#comment-1251']support site[/URL] will they make a port know that Unity 4 offers this option and in return I was pointed at [URL='http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DUKh8pyCFDY#t=108s']Unity 4 - Linux Export[/URL]. In that video you can see Na'tosha Bard testing Rochard on Ubuntu.

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Quoting: "Qantourisc, post: 4938, member: 181"This implies Valve may be using Linux. This does not imply they will support it :)

It is interesting to know though.

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Quoting: "liamdawe, post: 4928, member: 1"Valve have been reporting bugs to the Linux kernel.

This implies Valve may be using Linux. This does not imply they will support it :)

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Yeah, it's not(yet) avaible.

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To be fair about Unity, I was under the impression that Unity 4 was not available yet?

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I emailed Gabe Newell to ask what games are they planning to port and he said that [URL='http://i.imgur.com/Y9jyZ.png']"L4D 2 is first and then the rest."[/URL], and even though other people are saying the same, I still can't believe that it's going to happen.

About the Linux version of Unity, only other developer than inXile (who makes Wastelands 2) I know about that said about recompiling their Unity games to Linux is Wolfire (they said they'll port Reciever)...

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hrhr, make it: valve on linux :)

i am still not sure it will be steam. and if it will, will the impact really be as huge as people seem to think? developers who want to do linux can do this now via several channels, will we really suddenly see a huge influx? i do agree that if it happens we will see that valve will also port their eingine over, that will have more impact, but again how much real impact? with unity now supporting linux thanks to wasteland 2 we not yet seen many announcements about more unity games comming to linux. unigine has had linux support from the start but most of the games comming out on that dont support linux.

time will tell.

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Quoting: "Bestia, post: 4925, member: 148"I don't know if you are aware that [URL='http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hiddenpath/defense-grid-2']Defense Grid 2[/URL] is on Kickstarter and if developers reach $750 000
there will be Linux and Mac versions. Hidden Path set quite a steep financial requirement and it seems unlikely to get that amount of pledges.

aye posted it in the news section, people look at that pledge in a totally different way

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The Kickstarter campaigns have a boost on the pledges at the beginning and end so it's still possible that they succeed.

They have much more to show than concept art and yet they struggle so much to achieve that low level of pledges. I don't know why but I suspect that people think it will be generic and uninteresting RPG. I think that atleast looking at the environments it has nice design. This is also one of the most impressive games made in Unity game engine.

I don't know if you are aware that [URL='http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hiddenpath/defense-grid-2']Defense Grid 2[/URL] is on Kickstarter and if developers reach $750 000
there will be Linux and Mac versions. Hidden Path set quite a steep financial requirement and it seems unlikely to get that amount of pledges.

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Well the one thing that was lacking I believe was the ability to truly jump. Besides the game and the sequel are great and worth the money.

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The thing is Rusty, I am trying to write these from the perspective of Linux gaming being a distinct industry. As such, I am not so concerned about it being the best we can get compared to others we do not have becasue they are not on our platform, but rather want to view it simply on a game by game basis.

It does have faults (like I wrote in the review) and I also wanted to save that extra 0.5 percent to give to Survivor when I get around to reviewing it. Not meant to be unfair but I do have to be realistically critical.

Still, thanks for the feedback Rusty and Bumadar. The best thing to come out of these I think would be more in depth discussion on the games themselves. :cool:

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found it an enjoyable game, if you look at it purely from a Linux view then 8 might fit but only if you sequel gets a 9 :)

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Quoting: "Xpander, post: 4909, member: 92"wooow.. really nice.
pledged :p

same but doubt they will reach the goal though

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Nice review very well written, although i think prob deserves a slightly higher 8/10 given that there really isnt that much better on our OS. I found it to be a decently polished shooter which was quite good fun to play.

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wooow.. really nice.
pledged :P

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