Quoting: Fremen

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: FremenThis is bad news. Can likely lead to the Noveau Driver not being developed properly anymore. Perhaps its Nvidia's way of "shutting down" development on the open source driver with seeming like it is.

Why would they send lots of patches then?

I also lean to them enabling the free driver at least for good AI performance. Don't know if they care for graphics performance here in the same way though.

To be fair this is something that companies like Microsoft are famous for. It's even got a name, "Embrace, Extend, Extinghuish"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

But that makes literally zero sense in this context. What are they going to extinguish exactly? They're contributing to make their open source driver better - it's exactly what we want.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: FremenThis is bad news. Can likely lead to the Noveau Driver not being developed properly anymore. Perhaps its Nvidia's way of "shutting down" development on the open source driver with seeming like it is.

Why would they send lots of patches then?

I also lean to them enabling the free driver at least for good AI performance. Don't know if they care for graphics performance here in the same way though.

Yeah, these weird conspiracy theories need to stop.

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Update 18/04/24 15:11: there seems to be an issue with the licensing at the moment. The MIT license was not meant to be up on it, as this was apparently the default GitHub put on it. That license has now been removed, and so there's now no license on it. Hopefully this will be sorted soon.

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Quoting: Hamish

Quoting: NathanaelKStottlemyerNot really Decent, rebirth doesn't come with the game data. You have to buy it yourself, so does Descent2.de. It looks that this one is too.

So the exact same situation as with Doom or Heretic. The bespoke license used here is tricky, but the same was true for Doom and Heretic initally too, before id and Raven smartened up and adopted the GPL instead. Just a vistege of the code coming out so early on.

Quoting: NathanaelKStottlemyerIt's not really open source, in my opinion, because while the engine is now open sourced, the game data is not. I think it's kind of disingenuous to call it an open source game when the game in entirely isn't open source. Just the game engine.

Well, it is certainly not free media; I could muddy the waters and say any software not created through the open source development model is not "open source" too, but at a certain point that is just arguing semantics.

I'm not intentionally trying to be argumentative, just when I saw the headline "Descent 3 has been made open source" I was like OK a game like wesnoth or 0 A.D. That's not the case unfortunately.

In this case, it really is arguing on semantics. It is open source, but it's not free. So I went with plain open source, rather than "free and open source". Hope that makes sense. I don't really see it as a productive argument to have though :P

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Quoting: PyrateI see, though I think that can also be applied to Linux Native ports too, no? whenever they get broken, fixes are usually rare from what I read, I'm asking here because like I said, I'm new and I wouldn't know how native ports went, what I hear nowadays is that the majority of the native builds are broken/worse than if with Proton.

Yes, this does happen. Numerous Linux ports have been completely abandoned, left to rot, or dropped entirely.

At least with Proton, being open source (and based on Wine), the maintained version can continue to be improved upon using it.

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Stellaris, the base game, is actually really good by itself. The DLC are all optional extras. The base game is often ridiculously cheap too, as are plenty of the DLC.

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Quoting: dpanterHotfix 9-4 is out because of course!

Of course, updated.

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Quoting: benstor214I don’t see a Linux version on the store? Does it run through proton?

Look for the SteamOS icon, it's there. They just don't have system requirements for Linux.

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Quoting: PenglingDid someone say Bomberman? I'm there!

I was waiting for your comment lol

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They had a bit of a meltdown at me on X/Twitter of my poking on this...not a good look.

https://twitter.com/PLAYTR0N/status/1778464518529491068

https://twitter.com/PLAYTR0N/status/1778465526978629866

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