Quoting: wleoncioI'd love to participate. Too bad the only one of those I have is Grid Autosport (Broforce is on my Wishlist, but I'm done shopping for now). Any chance we can get some MP mayhem going on in BattleBlock Theater? For more players, I'd like to suggest War Thunder and TF2. In case you're in a cooperation mood (very Open Source-like, I might add), there's always Borderlands 2 and L4D2

If there is room to expand it we will, but I can't please everyone :).

Will do what I can to get people involved, all games in the list are popular games.

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Quoting: wolfyrionSo you are saying that here is a chance to watch a steam controller or a keyboard landing on your head ? :P

Hmmm... sounds fun.. :D

Probably more direct than that, probably a mid-stream punch to the gut hah.

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Some more food for thought, SteamOS was recently updated with much newer graphics drivers. It's possible again this was done due to games coming with Vulkan.

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Alright fine, let's leave the argument there.

If I had worded that one tiny bit in the article differently we wouldn't be having this repeating argument :p

Everyone is now focusing on that minor point rather than the article itself.

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Quoting: adolsonDifferentiating Android from what we call "Linux" meaning desktop OSes is "splitting hairs", yet "it's Windows, not PC!" is constantly argued here and everywhere without any kind of similar reprimand? That's odd, since the case against Android is stronger.

That is a totally different kind of argument, the name Android is already associated to a different platform that doesn't make things confusing.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: sarmadIf Doom is already going to support Vulkan, why not support Linux as well?

Because it's Bethesda. Times of idSoftware are long gone.

This, like I've said before, there's a lot more to a game than a graphics API. Anyone who says Vulkan will make more Linux ports is just wrong.

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Quoting: ShmerlFor the sake of discussion, Android is indeed not [glibc] Linux. It's bionic one. That's all that should be said. Android is pretty useless for us, when Linux gaming is concerned. Its only benefits are indirect, i.e. may be wider adoption of Vulkan, some improvements to the kernel and so on. Huge rift on libc level and completely different graphics stack makes it "not Linux" for me.

Probably best to leave this argument there. No point getting into an argument over such a small thing :)

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Quoting: t3g

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: devland

QuoteThis does not include Android, even though it is Linux,

Android is not Linux. Linux programs don't work on Android and Android apps don't work on Linux.
Android uses a heavily modified version of the Linux kernel. That's it.

Linux is a Kernel, if it uses it, it is Linux. It's everything on top that makes it a desktop/mobile/server/whatever distribution.

Let's not split hairs over something silly eh.

Its because you are wrong. While Linux is the kernel, the desktops that you use (and SteamOS) are GNU/Linux since it is the GNU utilities in combination with the Linux kernel to make it all work. While Android may use a Linux kernel, Google uses their own software and it has no relation to the the "Linux" you talk about on this page which are the Arch, Debian, SteamOS, and Ubuntu distributions.

Here is a good read from the father himself: https://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html

Again, splitting hairs, it's a minor point. We just have different opinions and I think it's a bit of a silly argument to have.

I don't agree with the rule that it's not Linux unless it specifically works on the desktop with .debs and so on.

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Quoting: devland

QuoteThis does not include Android, even though it is Linux,

Android is not Linux. Linux programs don't work on Android and Android apps don't work on Linux.
Android uses a heavily modified version of the Linux kernel. That's it.

Linux is a Kernel, if it uses it, it is Linux. It's everything on top that makes it a desktop/mobile/server/whatever distribution.

Let's not split hairs over something silly eh.

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Quoting: thelimeydragonNightdive in the past have released 1 (maybe 2) games that were released on Linux where they rewrote the game engine from scratch and then open sourced it.

So they do deserve some praise.

This is why I find their earlier comment about no one in their dev team doing Linux, how did they do their previous Linux testing?

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