I can't wait to doll myself up in a wedding dress and then beat the crap out of people.

Jokes aside, I haven't really played fighting games since I was a kid. OK, I guess there was one for PS Vita that I bought but didn't like that much. I'd be up for trying this one out if it came to Linux. I think I'd need to play against friends for me to have fun. I don't picture myself getting good enough to have fun playing against randoms.

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Quoting: liamdaweOne thing to bring up, is that I did see some posts across Twitter about Dota 2 "not needed yet another male hero" or something to that effect. Curious about it, due to my own ignorance on the matter since I've not been playing Dota 2 regularly for some time I decided to look into it. Regardless of your feelings on all things being equal in gaming, Dota 2's hero list is predominantly male. There's over 90 male heroes and only around 16 or so female heroes. That's a pretty large difference, just something to think about…

Something to think about, sure. Just make sure not to jump to simple solutions. Look at LoL heroes. Look at their female heroes. Does that look like a solution? No. LoL female heroes are more sexist than Dota 2's hero base.

Is it worth asking for more female characters in Dota 2? Sure. I don't see how asking for that makes someone feminist. FWIW, one of last year's two new characters was a female. Perhaps Mars will be female as well.

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Quoting: mao_dze_dun

Quoting: 14

Quoting: mao_dze_dunSorry, but you could have straight taken the bills and lit them on fire. This game was DOA the moment it was announces. PUBG can't keep up with Fortnite, but Crazy Juice (which looks like a straight rip-off) will? Please...

You don't have to be the #1 most popular in a category to be successful. Fortnite might be the one to beat, but my friends and I don't even like that one. Consider that League of Legends would be considered more popular than Dota 2, yet Dota 2 is still a very successful game that many players love.

Aside from that, I guess I'm not so eager for Crazy Justice to release now. It goes without saying that a game has to work.

Except that this game is not DotA 2 and it's developers are not Valve. This is just another derivative game born out of a trend and it's going the way of all the unsuccessful MOBAs, MMOs and zombie/survival games. Oh, and BR games, which are dropping like flies at this point. But hey - everybody decides for themselves. Hope you get your money's worth out of it.

I never said that I spent any money on it. I haven't yet.

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Quoting: Spud13y

Quoting: 14

Quoting: Spud13yI'm going to buy it with the money I refunded from Doom. Looking forward to dying several times. :D

Why did you refund Doom?

I'm one of a very small amount of people who couldn't even get it to launch. It couldn't find a config file that needs to be generated by at least going to the menu, judging from my research. I've tried using others online, but it didn't work. Since this is two-days new, there's no work around. It's $20, so if it does get fixed in a month or so I would buy it again.

Good to know, because I am thinking about getting it as well. I often forget about the ability to refund since I don't think I've done it before.

I'll have to do a PC/PS4 graphics comparison because I could get a used copy on PS4 cheaper than the Steam version and then resell it when I'm done. I know, I know, I wouldn't experience the coolness of playing a Windows game using Steam Play. *gives Reason a glare*

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Quoting: Spud13yI'm going to buy it with the money I refunded from Doom. Looking forward to dying several times. :D

Why did you refund Doom?

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Quoting: beko

Quoting: 14Well, now I know why I wasn't experiencing this well-known bug. It must not occur to KDE Plasma users.

Gnome user here. I never experienced this well known bug. It must not occur to Gnome users.

??

I wasn't over-valuing my anecdotal experience. The article said that it was related to ibus which is installed by Gnome.

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Quoting: mao_dze_dunSorry, but you could have straight taken the bills and lit them on fire. This game was DOA the moment it was announces. PUBG can't keep up with Fortnite, but Crazy Juice (which looks like a straight rip-off) will? Please...

You don't have to be the #1 most popular in a category to be successful. Fortnite might be the one to beat, but my friends and I don't even like that one. Consider that League of Legends would be considered more popular than Dota 2, yet Dota 2 is still a very successful game that many players love.

Aside from that, I guess I'm not so eager for Crazy Justice to release now. It goes without saying that a game has to work.

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Well, now I know why I wasn't experiencing this well-known bug. It must not occur to KDE Plasma users.

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Looking good.

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Quoting: GuestSo now that I've had time to think about this news more, I thought I'd try add more discussion points.

Disclaimer: I personally find it odd that people are praising Valve so much here. Valve didn't make wine. Or dxvk. Or actually any of the tools that make this possible. They're just packaging it into Steam.

Anyway, so the first point for me is that nothing here couldn't be done before, and wasn't already being done before. Wine could already be used, and what whitelisted games I have already ran completely fine anyway on a vanilla wine with no extra patches. Furthermore, some games that run on that vanilla wine don't run with Steam Play, likely because the latter is based off an older version of wine - and this I consider a "con" of Steam Play. It's not very likely to get updates in a hurry, and a lot of games benefit from those updates.

As a "pro", this does package everything nicely into Steam and avoids a lot of hassle for people who just want to push a button. I'm really not the target audience for this - I run gentoo, I like bleeding edge, I like customisation. I would say the target audience is more towards people who are likely to use SteamOS because it's bundled with whatever system they've bought. For them, from an end user experience, this would be great.

Another "con" however, is that something like this already exists! Lutris, for example. And many games really only work properly with different wine versions, different overrides, that sort of thing. Wine can be a bit of a temperamental beast, and needs coaxing to get it running sometimes, which Lutris handles far better (and doesn't need Steam to do it). appdb.winehq.org already has what I consider a "whitelist" - a community run lit of games that work nicely. Maybe there are plans for something similar here - it's still early days to know what the longer term plans are for Steam Play.

On the matter of support, I personally would prefer eON over wine. Native support (i.e support for running the game on GNU/Linux), and quite honestly eON is far more reliable. I could never run The Witcher 2 over wine, but could run it with the eON version (even initially, on fglrx drivers, it would run - and now of course it runs really damned smooth with mesa). As nice as it may be for some, don't forget that this is not official developer support for any of the games. At all. So don't expect money back if a purchased game doesn't run under wine. At least the announcement hinted at that.

To end on a "pro", the real news for me is apparent financial backing for some development effort. The wording makes me think that's what most of the effort from Valve really is (other than Steam packaging): financial backing, so if Valve employees are doing a lot more then I do apologise! This means that hopefully development will generically improve on things like dxvk and vkd3d, which helps the wine experience in general, for everybody, not just Steam users.

News flash: people like you and me are not the norm. The work Valve is doing here is great for the ecosystem. I'm very excited about this just like I'm excited for new Ubuntu releases even though I don't use Ubuntu.

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