I love DRM free games. Not so in love with closed-source, proprietary graphics drivers.

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Quoting: ageres

Quoting: g000hYou could certainly make two Debian 10 installs on the same machine, and share the Home volume between them. And have the advantage that if one install gets trashed, you can fire up the other one.

What do you do with your computer so you need several Debians and break them periodically?

Well the last time was a Debian 9 to Debian 10 upgrade (which I did in order to get Rise of the Tomb Raider working), The upgrade broke Gnome desktop due to the Nvidia driver blob. But this is all off-topic. Every time I run an apt-get upgrade, there's always the chance that the desktop will break due to the graphics drivers. I don't especially enjoy repairing things on the console: sudo apt-get remove -purge nvidia*

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Quoting: Brisse

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: g000hOff Topic:

One thing I have been doing and intending to do more of, in the future - When installing the Linux distro, I use LVM to chop the file-system up into separate volumes, and I set up the home directory on its own volume, and I also leave free space in the Volume Group, for adding more Logical Volumes later.

By doing this, I can add multiple distros onto the same machine, with each one potentially using the same Swap volume and Home directory volume.

I'm not sure this is a good plan. Lots of appliction configurations lie in the home directory somewhere. While applications should be able to cope when you're changing to a newer version, accessing them from a distro with an older version may lead to trouble.

Yep. I've run into trouble before when copying my home folder between different computers running different distros. Solved it by removing all configuration files in the home folder, but that might not always be desirable.

Off Topic:

You've got good points. Need to look into this further. Of course, when you first set up a new bootable instance, you can put in a separate Logical Volume for that install, and swap around mount points / test things out / snapshot the volume / revert the volume

e.g. /dev/sda

sda1 = ext4 bootable partition

sda2 = partition for LVM, VG = vg1

Debian 10
vg1-d10root
vg1-d10home
vg1-swap

Ubuntu 18
vg1-u18root
vg1-u18home
(share the swap)

Debian 9
vg1-d9root
vg1-d9home
(share the swap)

plus free space, e.g. space for making copies of volumes, trying stuff out, snapshotting, reverting

You could certainly make two Debian 10 installs on the same machine, and share the Home volume between them. And have the advantage that if one install gets trashed, you can fire up the other one.

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Ryzen 5 1600, GTX 1080TI 11GB, 32GB DDR4, 250GB SSD + 960GB SSD, dual-boot, Debian 10 + Windows 10

Core i5-4670K, GTX 1060 6GB, 16GB DDR3, 480GB SSD + 4TB HDD, dual-boot, Mint + Windows 10

FX-8350, GTX 970 4GB, 16GB DDR3, 480GB SSD + 2TB HDD, dual-boot, Debian 8 + Windows 7

A8-5600K, GT 730 2GB, 16GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, Debian 8

NUC, Core i5, 8GB DDR3, 250GB M.2 SSD, Debian 9

NUC, Pentium N3700, 8GB DDR3, Debian 8

Acer E3-112 laptop, 8GB DDR3, Debian 8

Dell E6430 laptop, core i5, Windows 7

Chromebook, converted to Xubuntu, 2GB RAM, 32GB SSD

and then about 6 boxes of motherboards, cpu, ram, hard drives (mostly Core i5-4670K and FX-8320)

and about 7 Raspberry Pi (running Raspbian)

and even older PCs and laptops

yes, I work in IT ;)

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Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoOk, You convinced me.. Im gonna upgrade.. But if after the reboot one of my programs (like Crossover) refuses to work or If I have to reinstall anything, Im gonna be veeery mad with the Linux world...
I'm gonna be very upset if I have to login to all my social stuff again or if I lost all my Firefox tabs..

By the way. There are THREE user accounts on this machine and I don't want to lost anything.

Off Topic:

One thing I have been doing and intending to do more of, in the future - When installing the Linux distro, I use LVM to chop the file-system up into separate volumes, and I set up the home directory on its own volume, and I also leave free space in the Volume Group, for adding more Logical Volumes later.

By doing this, I can add multiple distros onto the same machine, with each one potentially using the same Swap volume and Home directory volume. This has the advantage that I can potentially install a fresh Linux, without touching the Home directory full of important files. And if my primary Linux breaks down, I can boot up another one, without fiddling around with usb sticks, bootable dvds, or pressing function keys when I boot up.

Various advantages:
- A game works on one distro but not on another one
- Backup your not-in-use distro, from the one you are using
- Some software might not be available on one distro, versus another one, (e.g. ffmpeg)
- Having a stable distro (for most things) and a testing/unstable one (for gaming, testing new stuff out)
- Developing your Linux skills - LVM2, Grub2, etc.

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Thinking about this. I quite like the look of the Redout game, but that's only on Windows (ack) whereas this fulfils the Linux preference. Used to really like Wipeout. Does this play really nicely? Probably check out some game-play videos later.

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Quoting: nattydreadLooks good, however I played this in 4k on the PS4 pro.

I wonder how the framerate holds up in 4k with an expensive gfx card?

With GTX 1080 TI, I am playing on driver 390.84 with Very High Settings (and FXAA), and getting 66 fps average. GPU RAM usage appears to be about 6-7G of the 11G card. It could do with being a touch faster, but it is certainly decent.

And note - Practically nothing you run on PS4 or PS4 Pro is true 4K. It is upscaled 4K (from 1080p). The GPU in a PS4 Pro is not good enough for true 4K. Saying that, the upscaling is done very well.

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Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: g000hI'm thinking to buy it again for my second Steam account.

Why have several Steam accounts?

I've got various reasons, but the primary reasons are:

- Building up Trading Card Sets
- Selling Trading Cards for Steam Credit
- Having more than one account for friends to play multiplayer games at my home
- So that I don't have to throw away games when I get additional copies via bundles
- When I have stupidly bought the same game a second time
- I might give the extra account away to friends/family in the future, when full of games

and

- Showing support for Linux Devs by buying a second copy of their game

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Now that the Serious Sam Complete Pack is seriously reduced (87% off) on Steam, I'm thinking to buy it again for my second Steam account.

Go Croteam!!! :)

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Got my copy of Rise of the Tomb Raider. Installed it on Debian 9.x with stable Nvidia non-free drivers (approx 375.xx) and it didn't work. But, the Feral Launcher showed up and let me know that my hardware configuration was not suitable (well, the drivers anyway).

So, what did I do... Edited /etc/apt/sources.lst and changed my distribution from Debian 9 (stretch) to Debian 10 testing (buster). After all, this machine is my game playing rig, and I've still got a stable distribution on my other workstation.

The apt-get dist-upgrade didn't go completely well (grrr). But after a fair bit of fiddling I had working gnome3 and Nvidia driver 390.84 which as some people have reported is working for them.

One thing I did was to apt-get remove -purge nvidia* and then re-add the Nvidia bits again, e.g. apt-get install nvidia-driver nvidia-settings nvidia-smi
There was also dpkg --add-architecture i386 and other things to get it all working properly.

Good news. After getting Debian 10 up and running, Rise of the Tomb Raider worked for me too, although Feral's launcher is still reporting that the hardware is not suitable (e.g. Nvidia driver 390.48).

Working for me on 390.48, I put the various settings up to Very High and also set the Resolution to 3840x2160, and YES, it looks lovely and runs at a decent frame-rate. Played just over an hour so far.

Thumbs up to Feral for a good job. :)

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