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Metro Exodus is now live on Steam and Deep Silver say it's coming to Linux
16 February 2020 at 8:01 pm UTC Likes: 4

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KelvinhboProton is not just a "band-aid", it's revolutionary, and all I'm trying to say is that the resources and time that are being wasted on Linux native ports could be better used on making Proton better, compatible with all games and anti-cheat systems. At this time maintaining multiple ports of games is expensive, unnecessary and unreasonable.

They are already making native Linux port for Stadia, so this argument makes no sense.

I'm pretty sure they are just running the games over Vulkan and calling that a native game, or do you actually think they are re-writing the whole games and making Linux exclusive binaries?

That's the only time a Linux native game makes sense, when you write the game from the ground up to take advantage of the low level API's Linux offers. Only if the market share of Linux Desktop was high enough that would make sense.

Actually there's a good deal of Stadia development target information out there - and yes, they are native builds of games.
Much of game engines is already platform agnostic, but the real kicker is if you have to change the basic structure to accommodate a different rendering backend. Khronos has done a lot of work to make Vulkan very flexible, so that shouldn't be too painful.
Shaders have been a problem, but Google plugged the missing gap by investing in a HLSL to SPIR-V compiler.

Of course, Stadia is a single hardware target - and that will no doubt make QA and risk assessment easier.


Ok. So a game like Destiny 2 have been completely re-written for Linux and is not running over Vulkan for Stadia.
Would love to see some evidence on that if you don't mind.

https://youtu.be/qdz4b5psrhE

Dustin Land from id Software shares their porting story of Doom 2016 to Stadia.

Just watch the video , you'll find the answers.

NVIDIA have a new Vulkan Beta driver out for Linux fixing some regressions
16 February 2020 at 7:53 pm UTC

kaimanExperiencing the swapchain recreation crash with F1 2017 firsthand, but given that the game didn't work at all with the previous beta driver, I'm in no hurry to upgrade. But seems I can stop spamming Feral whenever it does crash :-). (Which, so far, has always been _after_ it saved its state, so it's bearable, if not ideal)

With 440.59 those games works fine. This regression belongs to previous vlk beta driver , not to stable driver.

SteamVR 1.9 is out, Linux VR users may want to opt into a Beta
18 December 2019 at 7:21 pm UTC

Matombo
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MatomboI'm now owing a Valve index but i sadly must admit that steamvr for linux is still more or less a beta overall:
Camera not working
Audio not working without tinkering
Mic not working without tinkering
Reprojection is causing headdache inducing flickering
And the constant rumbling bug in the controllers (i guess that's what they are refering to the "rare" stuck haptics bug, which isn't quite so rare)

However, despite this I'm havin a blast playing Serious Sam and Talos Principle und other games using proton ^^.

Still considering to upgrade my rig and getting an Index in time for Alyx.

Did you give it a try under Windows?
If so - is it better there?

Jep only thing broken in windows so far is that you can't adjust the camera refresh rate.

But i only played around on windows for one and a half day, so no exhaustive report here.

Leopard
MatomboI'm now owing a Valve index but i sadly must admit that steamvr for linux is still more or less a beta overall:
Camera not working
Audio not working without tinkering
Mic not working without tinkering
Reprojection is causing headdache inducing flickering
And the constant rumbling bug in the controllers (i guess that's what they are refering to the "rare" stuck haptics bug, which isn't quite so rare)

However, despite this I'm havin a blast playing Serious Sam and Talos Principle und other games using proton ^^.

Reprojection works on AMD gpu's with Radv , but not on Nvidia.

But yeah , other points are valid.

I am on an amd gpu vega 56 on latest drivers (don't know the version number but I'm using manjaro)
What is Radv?

Vulkan driver for AMD gpu's that lives in Mesa.

AMDVLK=! radv ( started by Red Hat people, mainly being developed by Valve these days)

AMDGPU-PRO= AMDVLK+prop compiler

SteamVR 1.9 is out, Linux VR users may want to opt into a Beta
18 December 2019 at 1:15 pm UTC Likes: 1

MatomboI'm now owing a Valve index but i sadly must admit that steamvr for linux is still more or less a beta overall:
Camera not working
Audio not working without tinkering
Mic not working without tinkering
Reprojection is causing headdache inducing flickering
And the constant rumbling bug in the controllers (i guess that's what they are refering to the "rare" stuck haptics bug, which isn't quite so rare)

However, despite this I'm havin a blast playing Serious Sam and Talos Principle und other games using proton ^^.

Reprojection works on AMD gpu's with Radv , but not on Nvidia.

But yeah , other points are valid.

Seems like Feral Interactive may have a few surprises for Linux in 2020
12 December 2019 at 1:13 pm UTC Likes: 3

Yeah , it is obvious new Total War games are on the way , duh

Some early first impressions of Google Stadia played on Linux
23 November 2019 at 11:37 am UTC

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michaldybczakHow did they make Destiny 2 run if protondb shows it as borked? Everyone says that Stadia is on Linux but it looks like there are only Linux servers. The game is somehow streamed from Windows or am I missing something?
If it's borked due to DRM or anticheats then it's not a problem for Stadia+Wine.

Stadia is a different Linux based platform which anti cheats or drm's are not necessary.

User can't modify/manipulate anything because user only interacts with a video stream. Not the game itself at all.

No , Stadia is not using Wine. There is no reason for it.

Set between Half-Life and Half-Life 2, Valve have now properly announced Half-Life: Alyx (updated)
21 November 2019 at 8:25 pm UTC Likes: 3

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bubexelThis game will appear on linux. Other thing will be the performance. But it will show on linux.

Just guessing what could be a potential problem for Valve.
It's not just an announcement.
You can pre-order the game and pay real money.
That's why they feel pressured to put some systems requirements.
(Otherwise I'd say just leave it empty for now)

But judging from the specs of the Windows version,
the requirements for Linux will also be quite high.
While (I hate to say it) this won't be much of an issue
for Nvidia GPUs but the state of the current drivers for
the newer AMD Navi cards will have to improve over the next few month.
It might be that Valve didn't want to omit AMD just for a start
(they are stakeholders and contributing to the AMD Mesa driver, right?),
but also couldn't just yet definitely say it will work in March...(?)

Actually AMD gpu support for VR on Linux is better than Nvidia.

Nvidia doesn't support Async reprojection on Linux while RADV does.

NVIDIA have released a new Vulkan Beta Driver 435.27.02
25 October 2019 at 9:22 pm UTC

chui2chIs there a good guide somewhere on installing the NVIDIA driver using the run file?

http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/435.21/README/index.html

Alen Ladavac, co-founder of Croteam has left to join the Google Stadia team, plus other Stadia news
7 October 2019 at 9:41 pm UTC

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LeopardStadia means nothing for Linux since all of those games will have VLK renderers tailored specifially for AMDVLK with no intent to run them on desktop platforms which is dominated by Nvidia hardware. These games will be in the stores with D3D.

Well it remains to be seen what tailoring specifically for amdvlk means. If it means there are specific Vulkan extensions only in amdvlk, then perhaps. And perhaps it won't be tested much with other drivers. However, the games are being developed first on an actual GNU/Linux box. Multiple developers have said that is the first step to getting onto Stadia.

So while this may not translate into increased support for GNU/Linux desktop, I wouldn't say it "means nothing for Linux" (I'm an explicit person, so I'm going to assume you mean the desktop OS rather than the kernel). HLSL to SPIR-V (for example) basically got a big push from Google, for reasons of Stadia, and yet that helps on desktop too. Don't forget developer experience either. These may not directly translate to more games, but indirectly it helps reduce barriers and stabilise the experience for the end user.

Tailored for AMDVLK or Stadia means ; they are not being tested on NV gpu's.

I'm not expecting any Linux binaries of those games on Steam , GOG etc either. I'm saying we won't see those VLK renderers on PC in general. There will be d3d.

I meant desktop ofc

Stadia builds are no different than PS4 builds for example. One targeted api , one tested hardware combination which is able to give good performance even on the shittiest implementation.

Alen Ladavac, co-founder of Croteam has left to join the Google Stadia team, plus other Stadia news
7 October 2019 at 9:36 pm UTC

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LeopardStadia means nothing for Linux since all of those games will have VLK renderers tailored specifially for AMDVLK with no intent to run them on desktop platforms which is dominated by Nvidia hardware. These games will be in the stores with D3D.

I think this situation is slowly changing after AMD started to officially support Open Source drivers.
I was a NVIDIA guy a few years back, but now I'm pretty happy with AMD Radeon RX 590 :-)

I'm clearly talking about Windows. On Linux people have many reasons to use AMD but on Windows that is not the case.

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