If you would be so kind as to update your PC Info once again, there is now a Desktop Environment picker as requested.
The place to update your PC Info has also been moved, it has it's own section on the UserCP now (links on the right hand side). It was getting a bit long and cramping up the main control panel page, so it's more fitting for it to have its own section.
I don't think we have any other major things left from the old survey, so eventually I can begin creating the survey page for users and non-registered GOL users to fill out and submit to be entered into it. It will have pre-filled fields for registered users + extra fields for unique questions.
Once that is ready, I can then have the graphs be auto generated once a month or so automatically (code already prepared to do that).
I've done a few other minor things behind the scenes towards making it pick things up better so it should be more stable too.
See the current stats page here. The new graph will not show up until I have done a new generation once enough people have had time to pick their desktop.
Now is a good time again to voice your requests for the page. I have implemented pretty much all requests from last time that I can remember seeing.
Things already planned:
- Picking a previous date
- Comparing dates
- Add view pc info link to forum posts
The place to update your PC Info has also been moved, it has it's own section on the UserCP now (links on the right hand side). It was getting a bit long and cramping up the main control panel page, so it's more fitting for it to have its own section.
I don't think we have any other major things left from the old survey, so eventually I can begin creating the survey page for users and non-registered GOL users to fill out and submit to be entered into it. It will have pre-filled fields for registered users + extra fields for unique questions.
Once that is ready, I can then have the graphs be auto generated once a month or so automatically (code already prepared to do that).
I've done a few other minor things behind the scenes towards making it pick things up better so it should be more stable too.
See the current stats page here. The new graph will not show up until I have done a new generation once enough people have had time to pick their desktop.
Now is a good time again to voice your requests for the page. I have implemented pretty much all requests from last time that I can remember seeing.
Things already planned:
- Picking a previous date
- Comparing dates
- Add view pc info link to forum posts
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A proud member of the XFCE clan. :DI was quite surprised to see our XFCE beating MATE users!
Also XFCE ftw :-P.
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What about BPM for SteamOS?That's not really a desktop environment, it's literally just Big Picture Mode being run almost by itself.
Last edited by Aimela on 27 Jun 2016 at 1:17 am UTC
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Done and done. One of these days I have to try different environments. I have only ever used Cinnamon with my Mint. I haven't tried Mate or KDE yet.
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Naturally, I'd love to see Pantheon added. :)
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also Unity is a gnome fork not standalone desktop environment :D
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A proud member of the XFCE clan. :DI was quite surprised to see our XFCE beating MATE users!
Also XFCE ftw :-P.
I've used GNOME, KDE, Awesome, and MATE each for extended periods; but I keep coming back to XFCE + Openbox; by far the most sensible setup for my needs.
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KDE Plasma 4 in Debian 8.4 "Jessie" is the only DE worth using. Why, oh why, did Plasma 5 have to suffer a group brainfart and think "streamlining" the goodness of Oxygen down to the devolved Breeze theme was a way forward? X-)
I'm in the process of leaving KDE due to it's state in Debian testing. Has KDE become that bad or is it just the testing state?
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Would it be better to say Desktop Shell instead of Desktop Environment or Window Manager? Does it communicate better what it is?Desktop Environment is the more widely accepted and used term. Desktop Shell sounds confusing.
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You make a good point, sonce SteamOS is an included Distro in the list, it makes sense for me to add it. Will do so tonight. I imagine it will be so low it wont even make the graph though.Yeah but this way we could know who's running desktop Linux and who's using a Steam Machine.What about BPM for SteamOS?That's not really a desktop environment, it's literally just Big Picture Mode being run almost by itself.
Steam Machine adopters are not going to switch to Linux just because they use SteamOS on their ConsolePC... they will most probably stay with Windows or Mac or whatever OS they used before.
IMO it's important to know how many people use BPM exclusively since they get a whole different experience.
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The dual boot option needs Android now that there is a working x86 version and more and more desktop features (RemixOS, AndroidN windows etc.).
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KDE Plasma 4 in Debian 8.4 "Jessie" is the only DE worth using. Why, oh why, did Plasma 5 have to suffer a group brainfart and think "streamlining" the goodness of Oxygen down to the devolved Breeze theme was a way forward? X-)
Plasma 5 is much better than KDE 4.
At start I hate Plasma 5 as well but now Plasma 5 is in a very good shape and I really love it.
For me Plasma 5 is the BEST DE of all! ^_^
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You make a good point, sonce SteamOS is an included Distro in the list, it makes sense for me to add it. Will do so tonight. I imagine it will be so low it wont even make the graph though.Yeah but this way we could know who's running desktop Linux and who's using a Steam Machine.What about BPM for SteamOS?That's not really a desktop environment, it's literally just Big Picture Mode being run almost by itself.
Steam Machine adopters are not going to switch to Linux just because they use SteamOS on their ConsolePC... they will most probably stay with Windows or Mac or whatever OS they used before.
IMO it's important to know how many people use BPM exclusively since they get a whole different experience.
FYI, I'm a daily Ubuntu user (and derivatives), full time, since 2012 and I decided to go for the full SteamOS experience with a DIY pc hooked up to my TV, dedicated to gaming, with a Steam Controller. Over time I realized that I really liked it and I decided to stick to SteamOS, for gaming.
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GNOME 3.20 user here.
P.S : It's impresive the amount of Arch users.
P.S : It's impresive the amount of Arch users.
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You make a good point, sonce SteamOS is an included Distro in the list, it makes sense for me to add it. Will do so tonight. I imagine it will be so low it wont even make the graph though.Yeah but this way we could know who's running desktop Linux and who's using a Steam Machine.What about BPM for SteamOS?That's not really a desktop environment, it's literally just Big Picture Mode being run almost by itself.
Steam Machine adopters are not going to switch to Linux just because they use SteamOS on their ConsolePC... they will most probably stay with Windows or Mac or whatever OS they used before.
IMO it's important to know how many people use BPM exclusively since they get a whole different experience.
steamcompmgr is a compositor/ window manager. For those wondering, I would choose the window manager option in your PC info. I will add this info to the Wikipedia page on X window systems. It was never added. See https://lwn.net/Articles/611969
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I use Unity for my every day stuff, but I like to boot into the [SteamOS login](https://launchpad.net/~mdeslaur/+archive/ubuntu/steamos) directly from the login screen when I feel like just playing games and bypassing all the stuff that loads in the background with Unity.
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I use Unity for my every day stuff, but I like to boot into the [SteamOS login](https://launchpad.net/~mdeslaur/+archive/ubuntu/steamos) directly from the login screen when I feel like just playing games and bypassing all the stuff that loads in the background with Unity.
Yep, did that too with Thor27 repo and the compositor that you can manually install, a while ago. It's great too, but since I have other computers to do desktop stuff, I didn't need it anymore. Also, during my testing phase, I found out, it's only my personnal experience, that there was no tearing at all on SteamOS Brewmaster. Someone might have a good explanation (driver version problems) or workarounds, but ootb, this is not an issue on my DIY Steam Machine.
Still it's a great alternative.
Edit: Typo.
Last edited by Mohandevir on 27 Jun 2016 at 3:54 pm UTC
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Folks running GNOME on nvidia cards: How are your GPU temperatures during normal desktop use?
On GNOME my 970 would be at 65C when idling -- something absurd and utterly unacceptable.
With no compositor (Openbox alone, or XFCE + Openbox, or xfwm with compositor off) it sits at ~35C; on KDE5 with the XRender backend it's slightly higher -- with the OpenGL backends it's higher still, but not as high as 65C.
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On GNOME my 970 would be at 65C when idling -- something absurd and utterly unacceptable.
With no compositor (Openbox alone, or XFCE + Openbox, or xfwm with compositor off) it sits at ~35C; on KDE5 with the XRender backend it's slightly higher -- with the OpenGL backends it's higher still, but not as high as 65C.
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Thank you for the update; it reminded me to update my system information. I recently switched back to my old desktop as I was experiencing too many random freezes on my notebook. One plus is I had an excuse to update my desktop's video card from the old Nvidia 680 to a Nvidia 1080. Not long after I replaced my old failing 1920x1200 TN display with a 1440p 144hz IPS G-Sync screen.
The later was a nice visual change and provided the plus of no noticeable tearing on Linux (yay for no more tearing on Linux.) :P
The later was a nice visual change and provided the plus of no noticeable tearing on Linux (yay for no more tearing on Linux.) :P
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