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Wine development is starting to heat up again, as Wine 2.2 is now officially available. Sounds like a good one too.

What's new
- Windows version set to Windows 7 for new prefixes.
- More steps towards the Direct3D command stream.
- Still more Shader Model 5 instructions.
- Initial support for double-buffered theme painting.
- 35 bug fixes.

It fixes bugs in Need For Speed Most Wanted, Venom Codename: Outbreak, Civilization II and more.

Even though Wine is a hot topic of conversation, I still think it's very important. There will always be games and applications that simply won't come to Linux for a variety of reasons. Having every option open to us is great.

Kudos to the Wine team! Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Whitewolfe80 21 Feb, 2017
Quoting: no_information_here
Quoting: Comandante Ñoñardo
Quoting: no_information_hereI may be wrong, but I have never heard a dev say "We don't need to port to Linux, those people will just buy it anyway and use Wine."


I think John Carmack said something like that
Thanks to Comandante Ñoñardo for the link to the Carmack quote. I stand (partly) corrected.

However, I have always thought of Carmack as a technology guy, not a business guy. It is the business people who will decide whether Linux is worth porting to. People like Carmack can strongly influence that decision, but at the end of the day it is financial. If the linux market is promising enough, people will port games. My argument was that business people are not looking at wine as rendering the linux market potential zero. It has too small an impact for that.

Linux as a business proposition will stand on its own. Unless Wine suddenly become almost flawless in running 90% of all current Windows games, it does not really compete with porting games. To be honest, though, if was suddenly able to do that, I wouldn't mind at all.

He was head of ID when they published Quake 3 on linux I think in a later interview when asked about Linux he said something along lines of we tried it once the market is not there.
tuubi 21 Feb, 2017
Quoting: Whitewolfe80He was head of ID when they published Quake 3 on linux I think in a later interview when asked about Linux he said something along lines of we tried it once the market is not there.
Comments made all those years ago are hardly relevant today.
Whitewolfe80 21 Feb, 2017
Quoting: tuubi
Quoting: Whitewolfe80He was head of ID when they published Quake 3 on linux I think in a later interview when asked about Linux he said something along lines of we tried it once the market is not there.
Comments made all those years ago are hardly relevant today.

Show me proof that it is not relevant ideally by booting up fallout 4 and skyrim under linux oh wait you cant because Bethesda and ID still have that same mindset.


Last edited by Whitewolfe80 on 21 February 2017 at 6:50 pm UTC
Shmerl 21 Feb, 2017
Comments he made weren't relevant even then. They were more of a rant. They are even less relevant today than they were then.


Last edited by Shmerl on 21 February 2017 at 8:06 pm UTC
Whitewolfe80 21 Feb, 2017
Quoting: ShmerlComments he made weren't relevant even then. They were more of a rant. They are even less relevant today than they were then.

That's not proof the fact that Zenimax (ID/Bethesda) have no interest in supporting linux points to the fact those comments clearly shape their thinking today.
Shmerl 21 Feb, 2017
Oh, whatever they are thinking is a different thing. I doubt they care to think about Linux at all.
no_information_here 25 Feb, 2017
Quoting: Whitewolfe80
Quoting: tuubi
Quoting: Whitewolfe80He was head of ID when they published Quake 3 on linux I think in a later interview when asked about Linux he said something along lines of we tried it once the market is not there.
Comments made all those years ago are hardly relevant today.

Show me proof that it is not relevant ideally by booting up fallout 4 and skyrim under linux oh wait you cant because Bethesda and ID still have that same mindset.
As I said, Linux will have to stand on its own as a business proposition. If Bethesda doesn't see the market, then that is what it is. Too bad. I still think that Wine has absolutely nothing to do with that decision. Blaming the lack of ports on Wine is sloppy reasoning.

The fact that I have over 300 Linux games in my library tells me that some people see a market.
Whitewolfe80 26 Feb, 2017
Quoting: no_information_here
Quoting: Whitewolfe80
Quoting: tuubi
Quoting: Whitewolfe80He was head of ID when they published Quake 3 on linux I think in a later interview when asked about Linux he said something along lines of we tried it once the market is not there.
Comments made all those years ago are hardly relevant today.

Show me proof that it is not relevant ideally by booting up fallout 4 and skyrim under linux oh wait you cant because Bethesda and ID still have that same mindset.
As I said, Linux will have to stand on its own as a business proposition. If Bethesda doesn't see the market, then that is what it is. Too bad. I still think that Wine has absolutely nothing to do with that decision. Blaming the lack of ports on Wine is sloppy reasoning.

The fact that I have over 300 Linux games in my library tells me that some people see a market.

Yes but its the same three companies which is great as i said back to my original point you are never going to get Bethesda/Ea or Activision games because they do not see the value you may say fuckem but they have big franchises that people want to play. Good for you I have over 500 steam games from my windows days I can play a total of 70 under linux native steam client. I am not a huge fan of indie games so they are mainly triple A games there are some exceptions but have a lot of EA/Activision and Bethesda titles.
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