You can sign up to get a daily email of our articles, see the Mailing List page!

Valve update Team Fortress 2 to deal with bots and chat abuse

By - | Views: 13,020

Like Valve did recently with CS:GO and Dota 2, they've introduced new options in Team Fortress 2 to help deal with community issues and bots. TF2 has sadly been left on life support for some time now, even though it's one of the longest running shooters available on PC.

In Team Fortress 2, this wasn't just the usual problems of having a big community and having some toxic behaviours. They've been under attack by bots spewing racism, sexist, homophobic and all sorts of varied hate-speech that made TF2 a pretty terrible place. It took Valve a while to do anything, as it had been a problem for multiple months.

Yesterday though, Valve released an update which limits "certain" new accounts from using the chat in official matchmaking and they said work is 'ongoing' to deal with new and free accounts being used for "abusive purposes". They also added in two new options, "Enable text chat" and "Enable voice chat" in Advanced Options to disable them so you can play in peace.

The Report Player menu was also expanded to include more details "so players can make informed decisions about who they're reporting" and they fixed a few other issues.

You can play TF2 free on Steam.

Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
13 Likes, Who?
We do often include affiliate links to earn us some pennies. We are currently affiliated with GOG, Humble Store and Paradox Interactive. See more here.
About the author -
author picture
I am the owner of GamingOnLinux. After discovering Linux back in the days of Mandrake in 2003, I constantly came back to check on the progress of Linux until Ubuntu appeared on the scene and it helped me to really love it. You can reach me easily by emailing GamingOnLinux directly.
See more from me
31 comments
Page: «2/4»
  Go to:

furaxhornyx 18 Jun
View PC info
  • Supporter
Quoting: Patola
Quoting: Eike
Quoting: gabberNow let me get this straight: You shoot, burn and blow up others. But how dare you call them a nasty word, that's too much. That's "hate-speech" and "toxic".

The one is virtual - a bunch of pixels is killed.
The other is real - an actual person is insulted.
Ok, your avatar, your representation in a virtual world is shred to pieces in a graphical manner and with sophisticated animations, 3D graphics and sounds, but still words which are as virtual as any graphics are worse? So the words unambiguously affect the person, they could not be "protected" by these nasty words like, you know, not giving a f* about them instead of asking for censorship?

If anything, it is still filling the chat with unneeded text. Even if all the insults were replaced by, say,

Quotedsqjghkdfjhgqjkdflqgn
jkqhdgjhjqdfksgdfg
eztrygfhghn
[...]

That would still make it voluntarily annoying for other players to read the chat, even if no one is actually insulted. That is (or should be) considered toxic behaviour.
x_wing 18 Jun
Quoting: PatolaOk, your avatar, your representation in a virtual world is shred to pieces in a graphical manner and with sophisticated animations, 3D graphics and sounds, but still words which are as virtual as any graphics are worse? So the words unambiguously affect the person, they could not be "protected" by these nasty words like, you know, not giving a f* about them instead of asking for censorship?

It's a game were you will finds teens playing. But even if it wasn't the case, most communities have norms against hate-speech so this is not censorship, these are just measures in order to make this rules work.
TheSHEEEP 18 Jun
View PC info
  • Supporter Plus
Quoting: x_wing
Quoting: PatolaOk, your avatar, your representation in a virtual world is shred to pieces in a graphical manner and with sophisticated animations, 3D graphics and sounds, but still words which are as virtual as any graphics are worse? So the words unambiguously affect the person, they could not be "protected" by these nasty words like, you know, not giving a f* about them instead of asking for censorship?

It's a game were you will finds teens playing. But even if it wasn't the case, most communities have norms against hate-speech so this is not censorship, these are just measures in order to make this rules work.
The problem is that nowadays everything can be called "hate-speech" and get the perpetually offended raging, calling for mommy (aka whoever runs the game) to restrict others so they can have their completely opposition-and-adversity-free safe space.
Even terribly uncreative insults. Like, really, whoever programmed these bots had a gold mine that could have been used for Monkey Island-style insult banter, but instead they went with lame stuff. Meh.

"Hate-speech" really has lost most of its meaning, it's just a "whatever I don't like"-term used by people who are unable to deal with words of opposition and some lame insults. Meanwhile, real hate-speech is still rampant on Twitter, Facebook, etc. and rarely penalized.
Some people should really learn to internalize the "sticks and stones" and grow some skin.
Or disable the chat, especially voice chat (not because of insults, but I just find babbling people annoying as hell when I play). Which they now can in TF2. Hooray!
Besides, what happened to the good old ******ing of words?

Being German, I used to get lots of "nazi!" comments in online games when I still played them (and had a more obvious accent than I do nowadays), but I was only amused by the lack of creativeness of my opponents. Also, it was generally a sign that I was playing well to get anyone feel the need to vent bollocks.
But - and that's the important part - I'd never, ever, have called for anyone to silence them (except if they just spammed and made chat unusable with it).
If they need to vent, let them vent. Also makes it easy to identify sore losers.
Then again, I'm just not one of the people who want to silence all opposition because I don't like their words, nor do I feel so insecure about myself that I'd need a "safe chat" free of people calling me names...
Quoting: Patola
Quoting: Purple Library Guy
Quoting: Eike
Quoting: gabberNow let me get this straight: You shoot, burn and blow up others. But how dare you call them a nasty word, that's too much. That's "hate-speech" and "toxic".

The one is virtual - a bunch of pixels is killed.
The other is real - an actual person is insulted.
It's not even that. I don't think they allow people to talk shit at martial arts tournaments, either, even full contact ones where they're going to beat the stuffing out of each other. You're competing, violently, because everyone involved wants to, but that's no reason not to treat each other with respect. Pro MMA has some trash-talking, which I find vulgar and annoying, but even there you don't see them going "You (sexual orientation) mother****er" yadda yadda yadda. They set limits. There's no reason sportsmanlike conduct shouldn't extend to computer games.

I do wonder about people who feel compelled to do that kind of crap.
There are fighting stances where provocation is not only permitted but incentivized, it's part of the game, you have even given a good example with Pro MMA. Words, when not a part of "clear and present danger" like in a threat or shouting fire in a crowded theater, are not violence.
Did I say they were violence? Lots of repugnant things aren't violence. If someone could teleport shit into my lap while I'm playing a game, that wouldn't be violence either, and I would be perfectly capable of making an effort of will and ignoring it while playing on. So, if that were possible should it be allowed? I'm thinking not.


Last edited by Purple Library Guy on 18 June 2020 at 7:44 am UTC
Quoting: TheSHEEEPThe problem is that nowadays everything can be called "hate-speech" and get the perpetually offended raging, calling for mommy (aka whoever runs the game) to restrict others so they can have their completely opposition-and-adversity-free safe space.
I've noticed that the people who love their gratuitous kaka-language insults get tremendously offended and thin-skinned whenever they're confronted with someone who considers it juvenile stupidity. Buncha snowflakes.
Quoting: Patola
Quoting: Eike
Quoting: gabberNow let me get this straight: You shoot, burn and blow up others. But how dare you call them a nasty word, that's too much. That's "hate-speech" and "toxic".

The one is virtual - a bunch of pixels is killed.
The other is real - an actual person is insulted.
Ok, your avatar, your representation in a virtual world is shred to pieces in a graphical manner and with sophisticated animations, 3D graphics and sounds, but still words which are as virtual as any graphics are worse? So the words unambiguously affect the person, they could not be "protected" by these nasty words like, you know, not giving a f* about them instead of asking for censorship?
Words are incredibly important after all. Probably not the ones under discussion, to be honest, but you sound like you're saying "They're just words" which would be a really stupid thing to say. All really big atrocities have the way to them paved by words. All really big achievements are first envisioned in words. Words run the friggin' world (Graphics do not). It would be a better place if they were used with a bit more care, instead of, say, the most powerful country in the world being run on Twitter.
TheSHEEEP 18 Jun
View PC info
  • Supporter Plus
Quoting: Purple Library Guy
Quoting: TheSHEEEPThe problem is that nowadays everything can be called "hate-speech" and get the perpetually offended raging, calling for mommy (aka whoever runs the game) to restrict others so they can have their completely opposition-and-adversity-free safe space.
I've noticed that the people who love their gratuitous kaka-language insults get tremendously offended and thin-skinned whenever they're confronted with someone who considers it juvenile stupidity. Buncha snowflakes.
They sure do.
Just a month ago or so, I was playing some Mordhau and chat was especially active with beautifully infantile insults.
My "What's going on here? School's out early?" was met with just the right amount of upset kiddies and ROFLing adults.

Wouldn't want to have it any other way.


Last edited by TheSHEEEP on 18 June 2020 at 8:54 am UTC
Patola 18 Jun
Quoting: Purple Library Guy
Quoting: Patola
Quoting: Eike
Quoting: gabberNow let me get this straight: You shoot, burn and blow up others. But how dare you call them a nasty word, that's too much. That's "hate-speech" and "toxic".

The one is virtual - a bunch of pixels is killed.
The other is real - an actual person is insulted.
Ok, your avatar, your representation in a virtual world is shred to pieces in a graphical manner and with sophisticated animations, 3D graphics and sounds, but still words which are as virtual as any graphics are worse? So the words unambiguously affect the person, they could not be "protected" by these nasty words like, you know, not giving a f* about them instead of asking for censorship?
Words are incredibly important after all. Probably not the ones under discussion, to be honest, but you sound like you're saying "They're just words" which would be a really stupid thing to say. All really big atrocities have the way to them paved by words. All really big achievements are first envisioned in words. Words run the friggin' world (Graphics do not). It would be a better place if they were used with a bit more care, instead of, say, the most powerful country in the world being run on Twitter.
Yeah, words are powerful. Still, if they do not cause a clear and present danger (threads/crying fire in a crowded theater), and are in a public setting, ideally they should not be filtered/censored. basically what TheSheep told about the aphorism "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never break me" -- even teenagers can do that, it should actually be part of their learning process, harsh words should be dealt with a self-control attitude, not by "protecting" them from the real world. Specially if the same mechanism of protection might be ideologically manipulated to filter out undesirable opinions (Zoom censoring the Tia... massacre anyone?).
Patola 18 Jun
Quoting: Purple Library Guy
Quoting: Patola
Quoting: Purple Library Guy
Quoting: Eike
Quoting: gabberNow let me get this straight: You shoot, burn and blow up others. But how dare you call them a nasty word, that's too much. That's "hate-speech" and "toxic".

The one is virtual - a bunch of pixels is killed.
The other is real - an actual person is insulted.
It's not even that. I don't think they allow people to talk shit at martial arts tournaments, either, even full contact ones where they're going to beat the stuffing out of each other. You're competing, violently, because everyone involved wants to, but that's no reason not to treat each other with respect. Pro MMA has some trash-talking, which I find vulgar and annoying, but even there you don't see them going "You (sexual orientation) mother****er" yadda yadda yadda. They set limits. There's no reason sportsmanlike conduct shouldn't extend to computer games.

I do wonder about people who feel compelled to do that kind of crap.
There are fighting stances where provocation is not only permitted but incentivized, it's part of the game, you have even given a good example with Pro MMA. Words, when not a part of "clear and present danger" like in a threat or shouting fire in a crowded theater, are not violence.
Did I say they were violence? Lots of repugnant things aren't violence. If someone could teleport shit into my lap while I'm playing a game, that wouldn't be violence either, and I would be perfectly capable of making an effort of will and ignoring it while playing on. So, if that were possible should it be allowed? I'm thinking not.
I disagree, the "shit into your lap" is very much the definition of violence. Might not hurt, but it causes direct, clear damage. Violence: "Behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something:.


Last edited by Patola on 18 June 2020 at 2:03 pm UTC
Quoting: Patola
Quoting: Purple Library Guy
Quoting: Patola
Quoting: Purple Library Guy
Quoting: Eike
Quoting: gabberNow let me get this straight: You shoot, burn and blow up others. But how dare you call them a nasty word, that's too much. That's "hate-speech" and "toxic".

The one is virtual - a bunch of pixels is killed.
The other is real - an actual person is insulted.
It's not even that. I don't think they allow people to talk shit at martial arts tournaments, either, even full contact ones where they're going to beat the stuffing out of each other. You're competing, violently, because everyone involved wants to, but that's no reason not to treat each other with respect. Pro MMA has some trash-talking, which I find vulgar and annoying, but even there you don't see them going "You (sexual orientation) mother****er" yadda yadda yadda. They set limits. There's no reason sportsmanlike conduct shouldn't extend to computer games.

I do wonder about people who feel compelled to do that kind of crap.
There are fighting stances where provocation is not only permitted but incentivized, it's part of the game, you have even given a good example with Pro MMA. Words, when not a part of "clear and present danger" like in a threat or shouting fire in a crowded theater, are not violence.
Did I say they were violence? Lots of repugnant things aren't violence. If someone could teleport shit into my lap while I'm playing a game, that wouldn't be violence either, and I would be perfectly capable of making an effort of will and ignoring it while playing on. So, if that were possible should it be allowed? I'm thinking not.
I disagree, the "shit into your lap" is very much the definition of violence. Might not hurt, but it causes direct, clear damage. Violence: "Behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something:.
No, shit in my lap would not hurt, damage or kill me. It would be gratuitously nasty, but not violent. Much like shit-talking.
But words are actually more dangerous. You're Brazilian, are you not? How many people are likely to die in the next few years because of Bolsonaro shit-talking about various groups? Not, mind you, because he ordered troops to do anything, just because he set a tone that made various shitheads and interest groups feel like some people are fair game. How many other people will repeat what he says, creating a climate of dehumanization?
It's believed by many investigators that the massacres in Rwanda were to a fair extent enabled by media like talk radio routinely calling the other ethnic group various stuff like cockroaches and whatnot, dehumanizing them and making it psychologically "OK" to kill them. Not that there wasn't other stuff going on, but that had a big impact.

I was bullied in school. A lot. I was chased around and beaten up routinely by groups of 4 to 6, although not that thoroughly 'cause it wasn't that tough a school (and often they failed to catch me 'cause I ran fast). And I was insulted constantly and socially ostracized. I gave as good as I got there. So as someone with extensive experience of the physical and the verbal side . . . if you could have somehow subtracted one entirely, just leaving the other, well, I won't say it's an easy or slam-dunk choice but I'd probably get rid of the verbal rather than the physical. So I don't find people convincing when they say words are nothing and should just be ignored. Or that verbal abuse is fun.
While you're here, please consider supporting GamingOnLinux on:

Patreon, Liberapay or PayPal Donation.

We have no adverts, no paywalls, no timed exclusive articles. Just good, fresh content. Without your continued support, we simply could not continue!

You can find even more ways to support us on this dedicated page any time. If you already are, thank you!
Login / Register

Or login with...
Sign in with Steam Sign in with Twitter Sign in with Google
Social logins require cookies to stay logged in.

Livestreams & Videos
Community Livestreams
Latest Forum Posts