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Well, the writing was on the wall for some time but this confirms it - it seems Feral Interactive aren't likely to do more Linux ports with the official port of A Total War Saga: TROY for Linux cancelled.

It was announced today that TROY would be finally seeing a Steam release on September 2. Feral did their usual thing on Twitter of quote-tweeting, mentioning it would be on macOS soon after the Windows release. A mention of Linux was totally absent.

Feral replied to a user on Twitter to say:

The Linux port was put on hold while TROY was exclusive to Epic, and we are not resuming development for the Steam release. We will continue to assess the feasibility of porting games to Linux, but there is generally less demand for native titles since Valve’s launch of Proton.

Considering there's a chance that Steam Play Proton might be able to play it from day-1, it's not overly surprising to hear this from Feral considering the cost of porting bigger games with it being far easier for indies. Worth also noting, that TROY was free on Epic Games Store when it first launched, so it would have already eaten into plenty of possible sales.

Part of the problem though, is how most Feral ports lack cross-platform multiplayer with Windows and that type of thing simply won't fly on the upcoming Steam Deck. Add into that issues with saves between the Windows version and Feral ports, that could cause more confusion if they don't sync up. Not only that but since the Steam Deck is basically a PC in handheld form, seeing bigger titles launch for it officially months or years later also wouldn't be a good look.

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Whitewolfe80 30 Jul, 2021
I can confirm titanfall 2 works flawlessly through lutris though i only ever play the campaign because its awesome and i have never had to mess about with dll and patches to get it to work lutris literally does it for you via a script if you need further help getting a game going Linux gamer offers how tos to get pretty much everything working with play on linux thats right its still a thing.

But if windows is going to suit you better @Flabb then good luck to you not going to hold it against you i would suggest you are perhaps not on the best distro for gaming as solus are very very picky about what is and is not allowed on its distro. Gaming wise found arch or anything debian based a much easier time when it comes to gaming.
ShabbyX 30 Jul, 2021
Quoting: GuestWell, I guess it's time to reinstall Windows on my main gaming PC again. With Ethan Lee and Ryan Gordon raising concerns, Feral cancelling ports and many other developers bailing out of Linux gaming, I don't see any reason to stay. I don't want to mess with custom Proton runtimes, DLL overrides, env variables and many subtle bugs that plague even the games with "Platinum" rating on ProtonDB - I just want to click and play, like a normal person.

Maybe in 2016-2018 the market share was lower, but at least we were getting ones of the best indie games natively, Feral and Aspyr were porting the top AAA games, and... Maybe some people still remember that actually in the middle of 2018 Feral were at their peak performance - both in terms of porting quality and the amount of contracts they were getting. Right before Valve dropped Proton bomb on them.

I'm not leaving Linux completely - I will still prefer free software for my daily tasks and use Linux on my non-gaming PCs. I might revisit Linux gaming if the situation changes, but... Right now I don't see a reason why I should prefer gaming on poorly implemented Windows to gaming on Windows.

Don't know about you, but I exclusively buy native games and still have way too amny games in my backlog. Despite proton, there's no shortage of good games on Linux.
whizse 30 Jul, 2021
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Quoting: GuestI can't remember any native game from the last 4 years that gave me a headache - be it a port from Feral, Unity/UE4 game or a custom engine by some talented indie dev, I had no serious problems whatsoever.
Funny. I have sort of the opposite experience. The last two native games I played didn't even start. But could be played with Proton. Both issues were eventually resolved though. I guess software development will always be difficult...

Anyhow, do what feels best for you! You can always check back on progress later. (But we do need you to leave your badge and gun on Liam's desk on the way out).
slaapliedje 30 Jul, 2021
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Has anyone tried Proton for "outside Steam" with Launchbox / BigBox game launcher? We need a utility of this caliber on Linux. This is your "UI for Steam Deck that works with all the stores / emulators" check out videos on YouTube. There is a thread on trying to get it working with Wine...

https://forums.launchbox-app.com/topic/56154-running-launchbox-and-big-box-on-linux/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-387462
slapin 30 Jul, 2021
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Well, game engines do have quite good Linux support (engineering-wise) for a while now, but that won't help make people do Linux builds for their games:
- Most developers struggle making multiple platforms release even if it is a few clicks away due to org chaos and lack of engineers in team, many teams having plans about that (supporting multiple platforms) drop all platforms except Windows and mobile very quickly. Games are frequently developed by very non-techy people.
- Many premade assets in stores are windows-only containing blob stuff made only for that platform, frequently decisions to use these drops other platforms support even if originally planned.
- It is hard to support people having troubles on some platform when there is nobody running on that platform, or just one who needs to do more important stuff now.
- Development costs are now increased, so developers need to optimize their processes and drop multi-platform support focusing on single platform (Windows, consoles, mobile) which provides reliable revenue.
- Developers as all people chose path of least resistance, most of times.
slapin 30 Jul, 2021
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Quoting: slaapliedjeHas anyone tried Proton for "outside Steam" with Launchbox / BigBox game launcher? We need a utility of this caliber on Linux. This is your "UI for Steam Deck that works with all the stores / emulators" check out videos on YouTube. There is a thread on trying to get it working with Wine...

https://forums.launchbox-app.com/topic/56154-running-launchbox-and-big-box-on-linux/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-387462

Proton runs perfectly fine from console. I do it with a script
 
#!/bin/sh
mkdir -p $(pwd)/wineprefix
export STEAM_COMPAT_CLIENT_INSTALL_PATH="$HOME/.steam/steam"
STEAM_COMPAT_DATA_PATH=$(pwd)/wineprefix ~/.steam/steamapps/common/Proton\ -\ Experimental/proton run MonolithBay/Binaries/Win64/MonolithBay-Win64-Shipping.exe

you also can add
export PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1 PROTON_NO_FSYNC=1
when you get out of files


Last edited by slapin on 30 July 2021 at 3:59 pm UTC
slaapliedje 30 Jul, 2021
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Quoting: slapin
Quoting: slaapliedjeHas anyone tried Proton for "outside Steam" with Launchbox / BigBox game launcher? We need a utility of this caliber on Linux. This is your "UI for Steam Deck that works with all the stores / emulators" check out videos on YouTube. There is a thread on trying to get it working with Wine...

https://forums.launchbox-app.com/topic/56154-running-launchbox-and-big-box-on-linux/page/8/?tab=comments#comment-387462

Proton runs perfectly fine from console. I do it with a script
 
#!/bin/sh
mkdir -p $(pwd)/wineprefix
export STEAM_COMPAT_CLIENT_INSTALL_PATH="$HOME/.steam/steam"
STEAM_COMPAT_DATA_PATH=$(pwd)/wineprefix ~/.steam/steamapps/common/Proton\ -\ Experimental/proton run MonolithBay/Binaries/Win64/MonolithBay-Win64-Shipping.exe

you also can add
export PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1 PROTON_NO_FSYNC=1
when you get out of files

Nice, I'll see if I can get that to work... I attempted to add Launchbox in as a non-steam game, got as far as it asking to have .Net Core installed...
jarhead_h 31 Jul, 2021
Quoting: bisbyxCan we also note here:
QuoteThe Linux port was put on hold while TROY was exclusive to Epic
Epic's complete lack of Linux support means games don't get ported to Linux as well (Because why would you port a game to Linux if there is no way to ship the build or launch it, due to contractual obligations that says distribution must go through EGS which doesn't support that).

Steam's solution sucks for Feral (and anyone doing porting) but at least we get the games running on Linux.

I'm at the point where I just won't buy a game that was an Epic exclusive. I've still got half of my Steam library never installed, so I'm not lacking for new games. If they are going to block me from even playing it, the hell with 'em.
slaapliedje 3 Aug, 2021
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Quoting: GuestWell, I guess it's time to reinstall Windows on my main gaming PC again. With Ethan Lee and Ryan Gordon raising concerns, Feral cancelling ports and many other developers bailing out of Linux gaming, I don't see any reason to stay. I don't want to mess with custom Proton runtimes, DLL overrides, env variables and many subtle bugs that plague even the games with "Platinum" rating on ProtonDB - I just want to click and play, like a normal person.
If you legitimately find games that have Platinum Rating and you're using the same OS / Proton version as the report, then you should report with the problems. Platinum should be 'you click install, it installs, you click play and it plays just like on Windows'. There is no 'subtle bugs' that should be affecting it. Unfortunately if people don't make reports, people won't know of the problems.

Also, people need to rate things correctly. Platinum should literally mean 'push button, play game'. If you have to do custom dlls, side scripts, etc. Gold is the best it should ever get. So yeah that's probably a good indicator that someone marked it wrong if they say 'works flawlessly... after I did this.' That is NOT what Platinum rating is for!

Unfortunately ProtonDB is a community effort, and I think there probably needs some better oversight for it. Like say... Valve should pay some people or something :)
slaapliedje 3 Aug, 2021
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Quoting: jarhead_h
Quoting: bisbyxCan we also note here:
QuoteThe Linux port was put on hold while TROY was exclusive to Epic
Epic's complete lack of Linux support means games don't get ported to Linux as well (Because why would you port a game to Linux if there is no way to ship the build or launch it, due to contractual obligations that says distribution must go through EGS which doesn't support that).

Steam's solution sucks for Feral (and anyone doing porting) but at least we get the games running on Linux.

I'm at the point where I just won't buy a game that was an Epic exclusive. I've still got half of my Steam library never installed, so I'm not lacking for new games. If they are going to block me from even playing it, the hell with 'em.
ha, I gave in and bought Mechwarrior 5 on EGS... then realized I didn't need it right then... so waited until it was on Steam... only time I've ever installed EGS.
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