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Need even more information on the upcoming Linux-powered Steam Deck from Valve? We've got some more that has trickled through to talk about.

Firstly, in a newer IGN video the team at Valve went over the hardware and power of the Steam Deck and talked about what it's actually capable of. During the video Valve developer Pierre-Loup Griffais mentioned "We’ve been looking at various games over the past few years in the back catalogue but the real test for us was games that were coming out last year", he continued, "They just couldn’t really run very well on the previous types of prototypes and architectures we were testing and this is the first time we've achieved the level of performance that is required to run the latest generation of games without a problem. All the games that we wanted to be playable is the entire Steam library, we haven't really found something that we could throw at this device that it couldn't handle.".

Now that sounds pretty exciting. However, there's a difference between developers saying it can handle it and it works, and what we're all expecting the performance to actually be like. Griffais mentioned how most games will scale down "to their 800p 30Hz target really well" but "if people start heavily favouring image quality then we might be in a position where have trade-offs but we haven't really seen that yet".

In a follow-up Twitter post Griffais mentioned "The "30 FPS target" refers to the floor of what we consider playable in our performance testing; games we've tested and shown have consistently met and exceeded that bar so far. There will also be an optional built-in FPS limiter to fine-tune perf vs. battery life.".

Really interesting to know there's going to be an FPS limiter built in. There's already some available on Linux like libstrangle to tweak that.

What we also know as well from Griffais in a Twitter reply, is that the Steam Deck itself will be using the gamescope project that we mentioned back in January 2020 which is a Wayland compositor for the normal Steam gaming session (not the KDE Plasma desktop mode) - so it's likely the FPS limiter used is built into that directly.

Another very interesting bit of info is that Steam Big Picture is getting overhauled, using the new UI built for the Steam Deck which was confirmed by Valve developer Austin P on a Steam post where they said "Yes, we are replacing Big Picture with the new UI from Deck. We don't have an ETA to share yet though.".

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CatKiller 27 Jul
Quoting: slaapliedjeHa, I would interpret it as being for full sized adults, and not kids that would drop it. I mean we should face the fact that the Switch, and Nintendo in general targets more of kids and grown kids... the joy-cons are absolutely too small for my hands to comfortably use, and I have to use my Pro controller to play games on it (at least it is one of the nicest controllers I have.) Gabe probably has the same complaint about the joy-cons as I do. They are made for smaller hands.

If anything he is implying that the Steam Deck is for men and women, not boys and girls.
Sure, intending it to mean "this is a premium product made from premium materials, offering premium performance at a premium price, for grown-up gaming," is also a perfectly plausible interpretation, and is likely what he was consciously intending.

We all know of PC gaming's widespread reputation for welcoming inclusiveness, of course.
slaapliedje 27 Jul
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Quoting: CatKiller
Quoting: slaapliedjeHa, I would interpret it as being for full sized adults, and not kids that would drop it. I mean we should face the fact that the Switch, and Nintendo in general targets more of kids and grown kids... the joy-cons are absolutely too small for my hands to comfortably use, and I have to use my Pro controller to play games on it (at least it is one of the nicest controllers I have.) Gabe probably has the same complaint about the joy-cons as I do. They are made for smaller hands.

If anything he is implying that the Steam Deck is for men and women, not boys and girls.
Sure, intending it to mean "this is a premium product made from premium materials, offering premium performance at a premium price, for grown-up gaming," is also a perfectly plausible interpretation, and is likely what he was consciously intending.

We all know of PC gaming's widespread reputation for welcoming inclusiveness, of course.
Ha! Yeah. This is kind of embarrassing to point out, but one of the reasons there is the reputation with PC gaming really stems from the absolute pain in the ass it historically has been to get working right. You have to deal with getting appropriate hardware, get the right drivers... hell even the operating system.

Then you have console gaming. Stick the cart, disk, etc in, and away you go. The sad thing is the two have been merging for years. Now you have your video game console that has to be connected to the internet, has to download patches for the games and OS constantly, and in general is far less stable than the ones from yesteryear.

So yeah, there's an elitism from people who game on the computer, as there are challenges to be met, but also rewards as they are very much less limited to resolutions and effects, based on how much $$ you're willing to spend. Consoles are much easier to develop for in this regard, as everyone can just target the most common. Sure computers have APIs and such to try to make development easier these days, but it wasn't always so.

The Steam Deck is the second attempt at making a console out of a PC, instead of a Console becoming a PC like the last couple generations of consoles (with the exception of Nintendo's as they like to do their own thing. Ha, well you even have the Atari VCS now which is just a console or a PC depending on how you want to use it. One guy is turning his into a MIDI music station with Linux installed, and it is introduction into Linux and he's very excited about the prospect.

Hopefully people are excited about the prospect of a Linux handheld!
Lofty 27 Jul
Quoting: HoriBut does the Deck even have freesync?

That was kind of my point. Nobody mentioned it and yet it would be an invaluable feature on a device like this.
sub 27 Jul
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: HoriBut does the Deck even have freesync?

That was kind of my point. Nobody mentioned it and yet it would be an invaluable feature on a device like this.

I'm sure there is a named rule that goes like

"If a major feature is not explicitly mentioned, it's not available"
Eike 27 Jul
Quoting: sub
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: HoriBut does the Deck even have freesync?

That was kind of my point. Nobody mentioned it and yet it would be an invaluable feature on a device like this.

I'm sure there is a named rule that goes like

"If a major feature is not explicitly mentioned, it's not available"

The YouTubers who's name I forgot said a) this and b) they were able to count frame rates based on videos which wouldn't have been possible with VRR.
sub 27 Jul
Quoting: Eike
Quoting: sub
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: HoriBut does the Deck even have freesync?

That was kind of my point. Nobody mentioned it and yet it would be an invaluable feature on a device like this.

I'm sure there is a named rule that goes like

"If a major feature is not explicitly mentioned, it's not available"

The YouTubers who's name I forgot said a) this and b) they were able to count frame rates based on videos which wouldn't have been possible with VRR.

Meh
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